Fat people thread

It's unfortunate when someone has a severe metabolic dysfunction that causes them to gain weight. But even in those cases, there's a lot that can be done to improve their state of health and ultimately help them lose weight. Trying to normalise fatness by railing against "fat shaming" and promoting "body positivity" is merely an attempt to rationalise away poor lifestyle choices.

At the end of the day, you can't fool people's instincts. No one intuitively feels that the morbidly obese are attractive or healthy.
 

Durden347

Robin
It's unfortunate when someone has a severe metabolic dysfunction that causes them to gain weight. But even in those cases, there's a lot that can be done to improve their state of health and ultimately help them lose weight. Trying to normalise fatness by railing against "fat shaming" and promoting "body positivity" is merely an attempt to rationalise away poor lifestyle choices.

At the end of the day, you can't fool people's instincts. No one intuitively feels that the morbidly obese are attractive or healthy.
Yep. It is one to be fat and to try to improve yourself by working out and dieting. It is another to promote an unhealthy bodyweight and normalize it. This is called ugliness and these 'Body Positive' Feminazis are promoting it. It is just an excuse to be lazy and make poor life decisions. Doubt they'll live long with this mindset. They might end up with a heart attack and die.
 

kel

Ostrich
I've said it before but I'll say it again - if you're fat, focus on getting strong by eating ~2200 calories of nutritious and delicious food (simple stuff like eggs, steak, etc) and lift heavy. The weight will take care of itself if you eat reasonably (it has to be sustainable, though, not some crash fad diet!) and get strong. Don't obsess over the number on the scale, focus on the process, but make sure no matter what you lift heavy for an hour at least four days a week. Do that for six months and I promise you'll have lost fat, gained muscle, and improved your metabolic health. Just commit to the process.
 

Batman_

Kingfisher
I've said it before but I'll say it again - if you're fat, focus on getting strong by eating ~2200 calories of nutritious and delicious food (simple stuff like eggs, steak, etc) and lift heavy. The weight will take care of itself if you eat reasonably (it has to be sustainable, though, not some crash fad diet!) and get strong. Don't obsess over the number on the scale, focus on the process, but make sure no matter what you lift heavy for an hour at least four days a week. Do that for six months and I promise you'll have lost fat, gained muscle, and improved your metabolic health. Just commit to the process.
I don't necessarily thing doing a strength routine is the best approach...yes your body will burn more, even at at rest, if you're lifting consistently, but your appetite may increase a lot due the increased energy demands. Any time I do a strength building routine I gain a a non-trivial amount of fat with the muscle, although YMMV.

It seems much better to me focus on diet almost exclusively and throw in any kind of light exercise that won't exhaust you and further tax your willpower.

I've lost 25 lbs since Covid (and continue to lose 1-2 lbs a month) and I barely exercise at all anymore besides some basic shit like jogs, planks, dips, etc. And my appetite even seems to have been downregulated.
 
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kel

Ostrich
IMO that puts too much pressure on seeing the number on the scale go down, which is an incomplete measurement. It's true that exercise increases appetite, which is why more than anything I tell people to avoid medium-intensity cardio, because it doesn't do squat for your weight and is just stressful and time-consuming enough to exhaust you and convince you that you "deserve a treat". I've heard the focus on diet argument, it has legs but honestly the answer to that problem is finding three simple and quick but delicious meals and rotating through them - neither trying to punish yourself with disgusting powders and meme foods nor overloading yourself with complicated meal prep that's fun and instagrammable for a few days and then becomes a time-consuming chore. IMO nothing is as motivating as being fit, which is a holistic thing. If you feel stronger and healthier and can see improvement in your performance that'll be more motivating than a number going down on a scale (for a bit before it inevitably plateaus).

But, I've never been fat.
 

Batman_

Kingfisher
IMO that puts too much pressure on seeing the number on the scale go down, which is an incomplete measurement. It's true that exercise increases appetite, which is why more than anything I tell people to avoid medium-intensity cardio, because it doesn't do squat for your weight and is just stressful and time-consuming enough to exhaust you and convince you that you "deserve a treat". I've heard the focus on diet argument, it has legs but honestly the answer to that problem is finding three simple and quick but delicious meals and rotating through them - neither trying to punish yourself with disgusting powders and meme foods nor overloading yourself with complicated meal prep that's fun and instagrammable for a few days and then becomes a time-consuming chore. IMO nothing is as motivating as being fit, which is a holistic thing. If you feel stronger and healthier and can see improvement in your performance that'll be more motivating than a number going down on a scale (for a bit before it inevitably plateaus).

But, I've never been fat.
Well, I don't think you should focus on your weight either. After all pretty much all men want to lose fat, not muscle, and if you focus on the numbers on your scale you may just end up losing a lot of muscle.

I definitely agree that feeling fit and strong is a huge motivating factor but you can actually be quite strong and fit with a fairly high amount of body fat.

On the other hand, there is also a great deal of enjoyment in seeing yourself lose visible fat, especially the subcutaneous fat around the torso that the overwhelming majority of men seem to be afflicted with (skinnyfat men in particular seem super common).

Ideally you'll be strong, fit, and lean, but that is really quite hard to maintain.
 
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When a landwhale realizes no fit/normal bloke is crushing on her...

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Durden347

Robin
When a landwhale realizes no fit/normal bloke is crushing on her...

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It is funny how the Left is about respecting people's sexual orientations and preferences but when it goes against their narrative they complain. Dating is not equal opportunity. Most sane people know that fat is unhealthy and that it is more attractive to get a gym membership and start working on yourself. Fatness just means the person is too lazy to improve themselves.
 
It is funny how the Left is about respecting people's sexual orientations and preferences but when it goes against their narrative they complain. Dating is not equal opportunity. Most sane people know that fat is unhealthy and that it is more attractive to get a gym membership and start working on yourself. Fatness just means the person is too lazy to improve themselves.
the current left only defends satanic things like ugliness, obesity, deformities, slandering, defilement, abominations, even criminal and rude behavior like stealing and murdering (if only done to their enemies) without legal representation. Fatness usually is a sin of gluttony versus laziness, though laziness ranks pretty high in their personality. There are plenty of obese people that get up and go to work everyday, but just can't stop stuffing their face when the fuel gauge gets low, some fuel tanks are always on full and overflowing. When 95% of what they eat is sugar and carbs (more sugar) they're just setting themselves up for an early death. Compound all that with years of doing the same thing, and that is why they resemble an accursed, bloated form of man and woman, a far cry from God's original creation in the garden. Pray for them to start fasting, some do, but many may never.
 

Hannibal

Ostrich
Gold Member
Go to the gym once a week, do one set of machine bench, lat pulldown, and leg press with a somewhat challenging weight to absolute failure. This takes ten minutes.

You know you hit failure if you push and push and the weight stops moving.

Eat 1 gram of protein per pound of lean body mass. 1 gram protein is 4 calories so adjust for that.

Plug your numbers into the katch mckardle formula
(9.8181 x lean body mass in pounds) +370
Thats your total daily calories. Takes ten minutes to figure out.

Repeat until lean.

15% bodyfat is more than acceptable for a goal.

It's not hard.

You don't have to spend hours doing cardio, you don't have to spend days fasting, you dont have to do carnivore, low fat, high fat, keto, any fad diet, you absolutely do not have to live in the gym doing endless set after set, you don't even have to change your diet that much. Just eat more protein, eat less over all, and do just enough in the gym to maintain lean body mass.
 
A phobia is a fear. I don't know one single person who is afraid of fatties. Us normies either find them amusing, feel sorry for them, or are appalled at the sight of them. Sort of like gays.

I think 'phobia' is more accurately defined as being an irrational fear. This was one of the great victories of the gay lobby: to get the term 'homophobia' in widespread use, with its underlying implication that being against gay propaganda was akin to having a mental illness.
 

thetruewhitenorth

Sparrow
Orthodox
I was chubby once, about 73 kg and height of 180 cm.

I lost about 14 kg within a few months by doing a few simple things - stopped drinking any type of soda, no doughnuts, and switched from American fastfood to Asian.

Meaning, no hamburgers, fries or pizza. Instead I would buy any Asian (but not Chinese) foodcourt meals such as rice with meat and veggies, always refusing any extra sauce they would offer, this with a glass of water.

Within about 6 months I went from 73 kg to 69.
 

Towgunner

Kingfisher
I think the topic of "fat acceptance" tells us everything we need to know as it pertains to our sorry state and the left. This is utterly ridiculous. The other day I was troubled by some kind of sjw related headline or development and then I heard Tess Holiday said she was suffering from anorexia. If you're unfamiliar with Tess she's a "plus-sized" model. Or to be more exact, she's very obese and several hundreds of pounds overweight.

Listening to her is grating to the ears. She speaks a different language using terms like "lived experience", "self-actualized" and all that. All of this leftist-gibberish makes for the mental gymnastics that lead people like Tess to justify their delusions. But, of course, she's doing nothing more than making excuses for herself.

I watched the clip where she announced she was suffering from anorexia. It was cnn or msnbc and it included a host, Tess and Tess's "nutritionist". If ever you want to understand the depths of insanity inflicting our culture, this is it. I saw otherwise cogent and at least nominally intelligent people agree that this enormous landwhale was in fact anorexic. Worst still was the "nutritionist", who bobbled-headed the whole time, affirming Tess's recent news with gusto. What kind of nutritionist is this person? Discredited for sure, but then again, look at her client. She's certainly not a very good nutritionist. That said, even the worst nutritionist can tell a big fat person from a non-big fat person.

By the way, it's not a coincidence that all of the people here were women.

It was bizarre to watch this, in fact, it was striking. The academic Victor Davis Hanson has best described our current times. He says this is a time of madness and hysteria. When you see a mainstream media production and people so utterly devoid of reason and detached from reality you appreciate the truth of Victor's observations. How can two sentient and otherwise intelligent people deny their own eyes and agree that this morbidly obese individual was anorexic? How? But, it happened. And it happened because from time to time human societies descend into madness.

There's something sobering about this. In fact, I find it to be encouraging. There are many things happening today that are turning our country into a living nightmare. For instance, the cross-dressing issue, which is simply grotesque. Watching this falsity seemingly promulgate across our land is hard. But, then you have to remind yourself, as the lgdrd*&998Hju, grows in power and influence, so, do things like "fat acceptance". These two are part of the same stem. They both share many similar attributes most notably a denial of reality itself.

Strangely, I feel encouraged because fat acceptance is validation that we are right. Once more, we are right about everything. Tess Holiday is not anorexic and she's definitely not healthy. She is extremely fat and not at all attractive. You cannot deny that or care-bear-stare that away.

There's got to be a breaking point to all of this. Such insanity can't sustain over time. Accordingly, Hanson has added that periods of madness do have short half-lives. I think its obvious why.

This madness will end.
 
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Towgunner

Kingfisher
Aaron Clarey did an excellent video titled "I hate fat people". I'm a fan of Aaron's but I need to correct him on a few things. He was quick to point out that Red States have a lot of fat people living in them. While that is true don't think that blue states are much better. I live in New England and believe me there are plenty of fat people here. Plenty. In fact, where I live if you're in shape and thin you're the minority.

Perhaps there were reasons in the past that made for fatness to be more prevalent in Red States, but, I don't think you can make that case anymore. This is one part modernity, one part easy access to food, one part abundance of food, one part the kinds of food available, but, most of all is this due to the new mentality that encourages people to be fat. We're literally a nation that believes fat is healthy. Pardon, that obesity is healthy. Eating is one of those endorphin-inducing activities that is hard to ignore. The abundance of food is certainly a factor, but, a far greater factor is the culture's outright submission to this impulse.

At any rate, this appeals to everyone regardless of politics and there are very fat and gross people here in liberal Massachusetts.
 
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