Fat people thread

rainy

Pelican
Other Christian
While this probably doesn't go for all fat people, I think it applies to most. And I say this as someone who used to be a personal trainer with many overweight clients and who has observed my 5'1" sister balloon up to over 300lbs.

They have deep mental issues and use food as a drug to make them feel better.

You don't get to be massively overweight without emotional eating. And they generally are aware what they're doing is ruining their health and making them miserable and depressed but the attachment to emotional eating to combat their mental issues outweighs the concern for ruining their health.

And it's a self fulfilling cycle. The more they eat, the fatter they become, the more miserable and depressed they are. And they know it. Every obese person I trained was well aware that looking in the mirror made them feel terrible. They start off every day feeling that way.

If that were not the case and obese people are perfectly happy being obese, gyms wouldn't get flooded with new years weight loss resolutions every Jan. But because it boils down to a mental health issue, they generally quit by Feb and the cycle continues.

Then there's the whole caloric intake factor. Heavier you are the more calories you need to sustain your weight. So it's actually easier for fat people to lose weight given if you're 300lbs, you're likely shoveling 4-5K calories into your mouth everyday to sustain that weight. If you cut your intake to 2.5K calories, the weight would come off relatively quickly. This is why fat people can lose weight quicker than skinny people. The margins of their caloric intake are much larger.

So what I observe in people like my sister who keep adding weight is they'll sit there and emotionally eat an entire bag of doritos every day. Just swallow 1-1.5K empty calories out of habit. Day after day. Because you cannot keep your weight at those levels without consuming a massive amount of empty calories. Good luck eating 4K+ calories daily made up of meat, fruits and veggies. You need the complete crap food to reach those levels.

The real tragedy is this life style surrounded by mental issues is rarely limited to the individual. My sister's husband who was a chef has now packed on 50-75 lbs. Their young daughter is now putting on the lbs too. The children become victims when the household takes on such an unhealthy environment.
 

nagareboshi

Kingfisher
Orthodox
A friend told me once that he never trusts fat people, as they clearly have no willpower and therefore a weak internal conscience.

Fat people commit sin and theirs is publicly visible to everyone, so they are humbled every day. Others, including me, commit many sins that are invisible and for which we are not chastised, and as a result our repentance becomes much more difficult.
 

Tardynox

Woodpecker
Orthodox Inquirer
What really seems weird to me is seeing doctors and nurses that are overweight. They work in the medical field and should set a good example. Also, you would think encountering people who suffered consequences of being overweight/obese would serve as a constant reminder of the need to eat healthy (as well as abstain from heavy alcohol consumption and tobacco use).

It also is weird to see so many police officers that are overweight and it seems common. One would expect accountants or cooks to be overweight but not police officers who should be in shape to catch criminals.
Speaking of this, I saw some videos about the Dutch elite tactical police, which are meant to deal with terrorist attacks and stuff like that. Most of them were all in very great shape, but I saw several people among them who didn't really look like they had fit physique at all.
 

rainy

Pelican
Other Christian
Our body is our temple. It is a gift from God and our responsibility to maintain a healthy maintenance of it.

Doesn't mean you should be an obsessed bodybuilder. That's not even functional. I find it a sad sight to see guys flexing in the mirror because they think they have the perfect tricep. But it does mean you body is a reflection of who you are internally and we're accountable to live and execute a healthy lifestyle.

At a minimum, in my opinion everyone should be in good enough shape to be a protector of their family in hard times. Men are meant to be hunters, protectors and providers. And they're meant to set that example for their children. Women are meant to be desirable enough to procreate and to bare healthy children.

Obesity goes directly against survival and a healthy civilization.
 

Cynllo

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
This man was considered so fat in the 1890s, he was part of a freak show.


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Grigori

 
Banned
Other Christian
While this probably doesn't go for all fat people, I think it applies to most. And I say this as someone who used to be a personal trainer with many overweight clients and who has observed my 5'1" sister balloon up to over 300lbs.

They have deep mental issues and use food as a drug to make them feel better.

You don't get to be massively overweight without emotional eating. And they generally are aware what they're doing is ruining their health and making them miserable and depressed but the attachment to emotional eating to combat their mental issues outweighs the concern for ruining their health.

And it's a self fulfilling cycle. The more they eat, the fatter they become, the more miserable and depressed they are. And they know it. Every obese person I trained was well aware that looking in the mirror made them feel terrible. They start off every day feeling that way.

If that were not the case and obese people are perfectly happy being obese, gyms wouldn't get flooded with new years weight loss resolutions every Jan. But because it boils down to a mental health issue, they generally quit by Feb and the cycle continues.

Then there's the whole caloric intake factor. Heavier you are the more calories you need to sustain your weight. So it's actually easier for fat people to lose weight given if you're 300lbs, you're likely shoveling 4-5K calories into your mouth everyday to sustain that weight. If you cut your intake to 2.5K calories, the weight would come off relatively quickly. This is why fat people can lose weight quicker than skinny people. The margins of their caloric intake are much larger.

So what I observe in people like my sister who keep adding weight is they'll sit there and emotionally eat an entire bag of doritos every day. Just swallow 1-1.5K empty calories out of habit. Day after day. Because you cannot keep your weight at those levels without consuming a massive amount of empty calories. Good luck eating 4K+ calories daily made up of meat, fruits and veggies. You need the complete crap food to reach those levels.

The real tragedy is this life style surrounded by mental issues is rarely limited to the individual. My sister's husband who was a chef has now packed on 50-75 lbs. Their young daughter is now putting on the lbs too. The children become victims when the household takes on such an unhealthy environment.
It's the addiction, depression, mental illness feedback loop.

For example, the drunk husband. He drinks every single day at the bar after work. Then he comes home and his wfie scolds him for being a drunkard. So he gets depressed, and he feels bad for being a drunkard, but he can't quit becaue he is addicted. The next day he drinks again to soothe his nerves and feel better. And of course he feels terrible after he realized that he once again gave up to drinking. So he becomes chronically depressed, addicted, and not able to concentrate or do anything productive in life.

Similarly the social media addict. He is addicted to the internet, and lives for finding new content. But then that causes him to procrastinate at his job. He feels bad for procrastinating, so he spends more time in social media. And that makes him addicted to both social media and to procrastination. He just can't take the hard step of being productive for a change, and kicking his social media habit.
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
Look at a video from New York 1911 and you see 0 fat people. Look to Japan you see 0 fat people. This whole obesity stuff is merely a coordinated lethal attack on the health of the slave masses especially in the US as they were the strongest ans hence capable of resistance. It's truly insanity when 3 quarters of your population is sick due to weight, not only the physical consequences but also the mental consequences of feeling bad all day. Body tremendously influences psychology. It would be way more beneficial to outlaw all junkfood and drink and force people to workout than to cure cancer and heartdisease which will merely lead to a 3 year longer lifespan, of people predominantly living in a wreck anyway. It's truly a sad state of affairs.
 

cosine

Kingfisher
Obesity now affects more people worldwide than hunger. It makes me think that the overall human condition is simply tragic. 500 years ago or more, it was a struggle for most people to find enough to eat. Adaptations like the Navajo have where they retain fat was good for them; they could survive a famine more easily with slow metabolisms. Now our brains tell us to keep eating, and it takes some combination of restraint and good habits to ensure you don't balloon.

The last time I saw an obese doctor, I couldn't get my mind off it. Imagine a dentist whose teeth keep falling out, or a mechanic who couldn't get their own car to work properly.
 
Look at a video from New York 1911 and you see 0 fat people. Look to Japan you see 0 fat people. This whole obesity stuff is merely a coordinated lethal attack on the health of the slave masses especially in the US as they were the strongest ans hence capable of resistance. It's truly insanity when 3 quarters of your population is sick due to weight, not only the physical consequences but also the mental consequences of feeling bad all day. Body tremendously influences psychology. It would be way more beneficial to outlaw all junkfood and drink and force people to workout than to cure cancer and heartdisease which will merely lead to a 3 year longer lifespan, of people predominantly living in a wreck anyway. It's truly a sad state of affairs.

This for sure. Some really dumb responses in this thread blaming people for being obese. There wasn't even any dietary guidelines 100 years ago and people were way healthier and slim without even trying. Now they're being tricked into eating poison (basically seed oils and glyphosate with every meal) and told that it's good for them while super nutritious food like beef is demonized. If they are at fault in any way it's only from being too trusting of what they are told.
 

bubs

Woodpecker
Protestant
Talking to some of my friends with young adult children and it’s crazy how the Gen Z’s are so lazy they don’t even go thru fast food drive-thurs lines anymore but order Doordash and pay rediculous delivery costs for crap food. $15-20 for McDonalds or BKings to your door. There a serious problem that is ruining both health and finances of our next generation.
 

2 Right Hands

Woodpecker
Catholic
This for sure. Some really dumb responses in this thread blaming people for being obese. There wasn't even any dietary guidelines 100 years ago and people were way healthier and slim without even trying. Now they're being tricked into eating poison (basically seed oils and glyphosate with every meal) and told that it's good for them while super nutritious food like beef is demonized. If they are at fault in any way it's only from being too trusting of what they are told.
Of course societies were ruined on many levels which put people in physical and mental state of distress. But, at the same time, you can't just completely absolve adults of any wrongdoing and say 'hey, they were forced to do it'. People need to be held accountable for their actions, otherwise we'll descend into this madness even further. Not every obese person has the same story, some had little chance to overcome it (especially if the were already obese as kids) and some not - recognising nuances is important. But gluttony is a sin and needs to be treated as such.
 

cosine

Kingfisher
This for sure. Some really dumb responses in this thread blaming people for being obese. There wasn't even any dietary guidelines 100 years ago and people were way healthier and slim without even trying. Now they're being tricked into eating poison (basically seed oils and glyphosate with every meal) and told that it's good for them while super nutritious food like beef is demonized. If they are at fault in any way it's only from being too trusting of what they are told.
A major determining factor of your well-being is how good you are at disciplining yourself away from growing stimuli; first television, then internet addictions including porn and video games, then more recently social media, and of course poisonous foods.

The morbidly obese women in the correctional officers photo all generally know what food is good and bad for them. Sure they might not know details about different fats or how much iron or zinc are in beets or whatever. But they know that junk food is junk. To their credit, it might be "simple" but like any addiction that doesn't mean it's easy.

It seems like the overuse of pornography and video games, especially amongst young men, is gluttony in another form.
 
A major determining factor of your well-being is how good you are at disciplining yourself away from growing stimuli; first television, then internet addictions including porn and video games, then more recently social media, and of course poisonous foods.

The morbidly obese women in the correctional officers photo all generally know what food is good and bad for them. Sure they might not know details about different fats or how much iron or zinc are in beets or whatever. But they know that junk food is junk. To their credit, it might be "simple" but like any addiction that doesn't mean it's easy.

It seems like the overuse of pornography and video games, especially amongst young men, is gluttony in another form.

Well I hate to break this to you but physical health determines phycological health. Brain inflammation caused by leaky gut and unstable blood sugar lead to impulsive behavior, depression and anxiety. Take a look at the carnivore thread or reddit pages for how many of these things miraculously disappear (often within days) when people stop ingesting toxins. It's much easier to be disciplined and plan ahead when you can actually get a good nights sleep, aren't suffering from brain fog and can think clearly.

Maybe you pride yourself on being disciplined and not engaging in the things you mentioned. Good for you. But you are only able to do that because your physical health is in a state where you have surplus energy to make those smart decisions.

I would bet many obese women would eat a nutritionally void, glyphosate laced salad, drenched in seed oil based dressing for lunch thinking it's being healthy and would never dream of eating a steak. It's because they have been lied to their whole life. Maybe people are more lazy and stupid than they were 100 years ago but I would argue it's only due them having being tricked and coerced into doing things that are bad for them.
 
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