Fathers of promiscuous women

STG

Robin
The sad state of the nuclear family in America today has fathers largely neutered by Clown World.

I have met many fathers who are decent and hardworking people with good morals who refuse to acknowledge their daughter is a slut. They either try to turn a blind eye to it or just go with the "if she was my son I wouldn't care" kind of thinking.

I can tell that while they try to stay with the "Hey, its 2020, get over it" kind of thinking, if someone openly says their daughter is slutting it up they will immediately show anger no matter how much they try to hide it. You can't change natural instinct no matter what the Marxists say.

Many of these men were cucked by the American divorce court and feminist system.

Its very depressing. I can only imagine getting divorce raped by your wife in the feminist court (no fault divorce! she cheated on you yet YOU have to pay up!), having to pay alimony and child support, and on top of everything knowing your daughter is out there becoming what literally what would have been a whore in your grandmother's time.

As a man if you say anything the State may step in. Trying to make your daughter act with honor and respect is verbal abuse, she may even claim you hit her! I'm sure you can figure out how that will turn out for you, even with no evidence.

I cannot imagine the horror of trying to raise a daughter in Clown World. All of the tools the previous generations had are gone, eroded by Clown World and the feminist system.

These women then grow up to be jaded and negative. They support liberal politics. They are the ones who believe misery is company and rant and rave against any younger women wanting a traditional life.

If you have a daughter, what are your plans for raising her? I don't see any ways to approach this. You deny her a cellphone, she is the weird one at school. You send her to private school or religious school, you're going to be paying double for her schooling (property taxes of your home plus the private school tuition) and I have seen growing up what girls from these schools are more willing to do then the ones who attended public school.
 

EndlessGravity

Kingfisher
If you have a daughter, what are your plans for raising her? I don't see any ways to approach this. You deny her a cellphone, she is the weird one at school. You send her to private school or religious school, you're going to be paying double for her schooling (property taxes of your home plus the private school tuition) and I have seen growing up what girls from these schools are more willing to do then the ones who attended public school.

You homeschool and monitor everything your children do and everyone they interact with. This goes for sons and daughters. Unfortunately we live in a time when this is necessary and I don't think we'll return to the days some of us remember. Playing in the woods with friends until dusk is a thing of a bygone age.

There are drawbacks to my approach; ones you'll have to deal with. Yes, they'll be weird in some ways. Better weird than a whore, imho.

Edit: I should add, there is a difference between helicopter parenting and purposefully ensuring your children are around children with similar values. It's also easy to set up the expectation that your children openly share their lives with you because you're their ally.
 
You send her to private school or religious school, you're going to be paying double for her schooling (property taxes of your home plus the private school tuition) and I have seen growing up what girls from these schools are more willing to do then the ones who attended public school.

Yeah, it's not safe to assume a Christian school will keep your kids on the straight and narrow. My hometown had several Roman Catholic schools, one Baptist, and one Episcopalian. And kids at all of them were already smoking pot and having sex by 8th grade. I think on average they were better than the public schools, but that doesn't say much.

The friends I had who turned out were the ones with good parents, regardless of where they went to school.
 
There are things we can control like kids schooling, delay of smart phones etc. This may sound cliche but living the Christian life and free from porn/masturbation may be the best way to prevent your son or daughter towards the destructive path of living in lust. Many of the fathers you described on the appearance sound like great guys and you may wonder how their daughters turn into whores, but in the privacy of his household and away from his wife and kids he's jacking off to porn. I believe being free from the bond of lust gives you grace and in that grace your daughters can see a real life example of how a masculine man should be and she would accept nothing less.

It's not fool proof I think a combination of living by example and monitoring your kids greatly reduces the chances of your daughter running into multiple Chad Thundercock or Tyrone Twelveinch when they enter college.
 
Agree with EndlessGravity. I have two girls. They are under 6 years old now but we've already taken steps to keep the clown world influences out and good influences in. We live in a very rural area, home school, and they have no internet gadgets of thier own. Real world development first, then we will address the virtual one. We are members of a Christian home school co-op, so they get to interact with kids of like minded parents a couple times per week. This way, they still learn to deal with the playground bully on their own, make friends, develop social skills, ect.

You homeschool and monitor everything your children do and everyone they interact with. This goes for sons and daughters. Unfortunately we live in a time when this is necessary and I don't think we'll return to the days some of us remember. Playing in the woods with friends until dusk is a thing of a bygone age.

I own enough woods here for them to get some of that, the difference is I'll have control over who else is there. But, yes, it will likely not go back to like we remember it.

Luckily, I can provide an environment where they can still have a childhood and at least have a chance at a good, virtuous life. I know the point will come where I will not have that control, but the idea is to have shown them what is right before they encounter the cess pool that is the world.
 
Yeah, it's not safe to assume a Christian school will keep your kids on the straight and narrow.

We all know that trope about catholic school girls. Well its real and as a guy who grew up in a nominally catholic family who has now become a lot more devout I think what happens is if a kid is sent to a christian school, but their parents don't really believe, they see this, interpret it as hypocrisy (which it is btw) and often will go in the opposite direction twice as hard. So it can be worse to get your kids (not just girls) a christian education if you are not yourself devout.
 

Grow Bag

Sparrow
Children grow up in a culture where recreational sex is not only fully accepted, but championed. Slut models are everywhere, male and female and expressing one's sexuality is taught to children from an early age in schools. Culture dictates behaviour and growing up in a religious family does not inoculate a child from liberal "do what thou wilt" values. I was brought up a Catholic who went to church every Sunday, yet spent my 20s screwing women all over Europe. However, my religious upbringing did give me something to reflect upon when I developed a general unease at my own behaviour. As a matter of fact it was my first red-pill moment. From then on I began to ask moral questions about all those pursuit of happiness, liberal values that I took for granted and had wrecked so much havoc in my own life and taken us into the "current year".
 

bucky

Ostrich
We all know that trope about catholic school girls. Well its real and as a guy who grew up in a nominally catholic family who has now become a lot more devout I think what happens is if a kid is sent to a christian school, but their parents don't really believe, they see this, interpret it as hypocrisy (which it is btw) and often will go in the opposite direction twice as hard. So it can be worse to get your kids (not just girls) a christian education if you are not yourself devout.

Many of the kids at my wife's Catholic parish who go to Catholic school have told me there's essentially no difference as far as things like sex, drugs, and alcohol between their school and the public schools in our area.
 

AlwaysMe

Sparrow
Several touched on this already, but it may already be baked into the cake. My 20 year old could certainly be pulling the wool over our eyes and is the worlds biggest slut behind our back. But given that she behaves exactly as we raised her in just about every way (dress, academics, political views, faith, charity) and otherwise acts like her chaste, decent God fearing Catholic Mom (my wife), grandmother and OTHER grandmother (doesn't chase trends, low alcohol consumption, pop music, "vacations" social media attention, concerts, bags, shoes, etc.). I believe that a certain amount of slut behaviors may be genetic. Candidly, I believe she is lonely and is waiting for a nice young man to act like a nice young man and ask her out. Fucking girl was NOT asked to her HS Prom. I know several other parents in our wider traditionalist, Catholic, homeschooling community who have the same complaint - their completely lovely looking or otherwise normal/cute daughters are NOT being pursued. (by the way, my daughter is blonde, 5,7", green eyes, and a nice figure (wears a bikini). Shes probably a 7. Im not claiming shes Miss A-Fucking Merica, but, she's not some fat uggo).

So, I do believe genetics has a lot to do with it.
 

AlwaysMe

Sparrow
Many of the kids at my wife's Catholic parish who go to Catholic school have told me there's essentially no difference as far as things like sex, drugs, and alcohol between their school and the public schools in our area.

Dont believe what kids tell you. They actually don't know. There's no way that middle class kids at a Catholic High School (which strongly implies parents are middle class and responsible citizens who can afford the extra $10k/year or more it costs to send a kid there) are all fucking each other the way the degenerate minorities at public school zoos are. Dont beleive the kids. Are there a few highly promiscuous sluts at the Catholic school? Yup. and they're probably "popular" so they occupy a lot more head space for these kids than they should. But the statistics on whores strongly suggest a socio economic relationship between druug use/promiscuity and income. Why wouldn't it? The poorer the person, the dumber the decisions. And being a young slut and taking drugs are dumb decisions.
 

AlwaysMe

Sparrow
We all know that trope about catholic school girls. Well its real and as a guy who grew up in a nominally catholic family who has now become a lot more devout I think what happens is if a kid is sent to a christian school, but their parents don't really believe, they see this, interpret it as hypocrisy (which it is btw) and often will go in the opposite direction twice as hard. So it can be worse to get your kids (not just girls) a christian education if you are not yourself devout.

I disagree. I went from a normal Catholic HS where sex was absolutely nowhere to be seen, heard or done to a secular college environment where it was an orgy. Then I transferred to a Catholic college ( a big, nominally Catholic University) and although yeah, the young men and women had sex, there was a lot less of it, as the mantle of shame and modesty we were mostly raised with tempered things somewhat. Certainly, the Univeristy did not sponsor "sex week" or "free condom day" or any of the degenerate bullshit that passes for "outreach" or "raising awareness" today.

As a US Catholic man (aged 50 now) who was able to fuck an above average number of sluts before getting married in my late 20s, I definitely experienced a certain reserve and difference in promiscutiy and ease of bedding ebtween Catholic and secular women. I dont doubt that difference has been eroded over the last 20-30 years, but Im pretty sure its not eliminated. I also think "Catholic school girls are whores!" is a disgusting Jewish Hollywood trope and smear.
 
I have four stepdaughters and though not my own flesh and blood, I do worry about them. I am an American expat in the Philippines, so at least it is a relatively conservative culture they are being raised in, and they come from a fairly strong family where serious misbehaving would be very frowned upon and shaming could happen. They spend lots of time on social media, and supposedly this country comes in number one globally for that habit. Even before the pandemic, they did not go outside often to hang with friends as I would have expected. They are usually content to just be on social media, or enjoy each other's company. When I first showed up here, the news quickly got out among the teenage boy community, and I have not done any front door/back door interceptions in awhile. They could certainly have male callers, as long as they stay in the living room with me in the area. But they of course don't like that idea. These are good young women, but I suspect permissive/third wave feminist American culture would have eventually corrupted them. Or at least the two of the four girls who seem to be quite possibly narcissistic and immature. Their father is a womanizing deadbeat who has never paid child support, so I worry that he will be a very bad influence when he shows up again in their lives. And I can sense that they will adore their "daddy" when he appears, as much as they dislike me for being the outsider/intruder stepfather, despite all I have done for them. It's tough being a stepdad!
 

AlwaysMe

Sparrow
I have four stepdaughters and though not my own flesh and blood, I do worry about them. I am an American expat in the Philippines, so at least it is a relatively conservative culture they are being raised in, and they come from a fairly strong family where serious misbehaving would be very frowned upon and shaming could happen. They spend lots of time on social media, and supposedly this country comes in number one globally for that habit. Even before the pandemic, they did not go outside often to hang with friends as I would have expected. They are usually content to just be on social media, or enjoy each other's company. When I first showed up here, the news quickly got out among the teenage boy community, and I have not done any front door/back door interceptions in awhile. They could certainly have male callers, as long as they stay in the living room with me in the area. But they of course don't like that idea. These are good young women, but I suspect permissive/third wave feminist American culture would have eventually corrupted them. Or at least the two of the four girls who seem to be quite possibly narcissistic and immature. Their father is a womanizing deadbeat who has never paid child support, so I worry that he will be a very bad influence when he shows up again in their lives. And I can sense that they will adore their "daddy" when he appears, as much as they dislike me for being the outsider/intruder stepfather, despite all I have done for them. It's tough being a stepdad!

Literally all you can do, all you need to do and all you should do is to be an excellent example of manhood. Be strong and be good. If they see a good example of strength and goodness, they will be able to discern the opposite. And if they cant, being a scold or a watchdog is of no value. Its too late.
 

Sombro

Ostrich
There must be an aphorism like "weak men create hard times" that applies to weak/poor parenting and how it affects daughters and future generations.

If there isn't one, one should be written.
 

kel

Pelican
Enthusiasm about homeschooling the children she will bear me is my number one priority when evaluating women for potential long-term compatibility. No exaggeration, that's the most important thing, she has to be not just willing, but excited about making motherhood her full-time endeavor. Anything less is a hard pass.
 

Easy_C

Crow
It depend on the region. I went to a Catholic boys school for part of high school and our partnered girl's school had a reputation for spoiled, slutty, not particularly bright girls there.

I did also go to a public uni, but one that, by virtue of a unique attribute that school had at the time which I can't explain without doxxing myself, made it extremely unnapealing to party people. Most of the girls there were studying for an Ms degree...not "Master of Science", but "Misses".
 

Jay

Pigeon
Childhood experiences are extremely society dependent.
So they have a slim chance to thrive in the current climate, just like how sensible adults are finding ways to deal with the difficult situation.
 
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