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<blockquote data-quote="Enigma" data-source="post: 1182951" data-attributes="member: 3766"><p>Bro, have you followed any of the other high profile website closures over the past 5 years? Megaupload, Silk Road, Pirate Bay, etc.? </p><p></p><p>Did any of those create a "slippery slope"? No. In fact, there are more sites like Megaupload, more darkweb markets, and more torrent portals than ever. </p><p></p><p>Did the FBI seizing 27 sites in Operation Onymous in 2014 stop people from buying drugs online? Not even close. </p><p></p><p>Did the 82 fake goods site they seized in 2010 stop cheap Chinese shit from being sold online? Not at all.</p><p></p><p>More relevantly, Craigslist was forced to shut down their erotic services section nearly 10 years ago. Did that create a slippery slope?</p><p></p><p>Regarding the ISP comments:</p><p></p><p>First of all, it's been repeatedly ruled that ISPs are not liable for what people use their service for, as long as they comply with takedown requests. The music industry and Hollywood have been trying to overturn that for decades and have failed. </p><p></p><p>Secondly, as TravelerKai pointed out, there are many ways around all of this, like using a VPN and hosting the website overseas. </p><p></p><p>Backpage got busted because they've been under scrutiny for years for allowing child ads to be posted there. Not only did they not try to stop this, they gamed the system to allow them to stay up. </p><p></p><p>Your analogies about getting arrested because a prostitute is standing down the road are silly and a huge departure from what we're talking about here. </p><p></p><p>If Backpage had been busted just for allowing adult hookers to post free ads on their site, we could have a different conversation, but that's not what happened. Again, Craigslist had a problem with their erotic services section years ago but didn't face criminal charges -- and aren't now, as far as I know. Many of the same adult hookers that post on Backpage cross post on Craigslist, and there are plenty of others. </p><p></p><p>People are trying hard to make this fit the narrative of the day, but they simply don't match the facts. I'd note that no one cared when a darkweb drug marketplace was seized -- and rightly so. </p><p></p><p>Also, Ferrer's lenient plea deal would indicate that he wasnt who they were after in the first place. Whether they're simply using him against the other founders or they're taking it further up the food chain remains to be seen. </p><p></p><p>Backpage were big donors to Democrats, including Pelosi, by the way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Enigma, post: 1182951, member: 3766"] Bro, have you followed any of the other high profile website closures over the past 5 years? Megaupload, Silk Road, Pirate Bay, etc.? Did any of those create a "slippery slope"? No. In fact, there are more sites like Megaupload, more darkweb markets, and more torrent portals than ever. Did the FBI seizing 27 sites in Operation Onymous in 2014 stop people from buying drugs online? Not even close. Did the 82 fake goods site they seized in 2010 stop cheap Chinese shit from being sold online? Not at all. More relevantly, Craigslist was forced to shut down their erotic services section nearly 10 years ago. Did that create a slippery slope? Regarding the ISP comments: First of all, it's been repeatedly ruled that ISPs are not liable for what people use their service for, as long as they comply with takedown requests. The music industry and Hollywood have been trying to overturn that for decades and have failed. Secondly, as TravelerKai pointed out, there are many ways around all of this, like using a VPN and hosting the website overseas. Backpage got busted because they've been under scrutiny for years for allowing child ads to be posted there. Not only did they not try to stop this, they gamed the system to allow them to stay up. Your analogies about getting arrested because a prostitute is standing down the road are silly and a huge departure from what we're talking about here. If Backpage had been busted just for allowing adult hookers to post free ads on their site, we could have a different conversation, but that's not what happened. Again, Craigslist had a problem with their erotic services section years ago but didn't face criminal charges -- and aren't now, as far as I know. Many of the same adult hookers that post on Backpage cross post on Craigslist, and there are plenty of others. People are trying hard to make this fit the narrative of the day, but they simply don't match the facts. I'd note that no one cared when a darkweb drug marketplace was seized -- and rightly so. Also, Ferrer's lenient plea deal would indicate that he wasnt who they were after in the first place. Whether they're simply using him against the other founders or they're taking it further up the food chain remains to be seen. Backpage were big donors to Democrats, including Pelosi, by the way. [/QUOTE]
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