Female dating coach teaches older women how to approach men

[Roosh]

Going Renegade. An event on Friday and Saturday nights where women go out to bars, galleries, and coffee shops with the intention to begin conversations with men who are going about their non-courting business.

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I spoke to two of the women taking the classes about what they were looking for. Alexandra van Vianen, 27, told me that as a divorcee, “personal development” is a big part of her life and that these classes fulfill her need for growth.

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Jasmine, 35, said she’s taking the classes to improve her dating skills and to gain support, particularly amongst other women. I asked her if she ever feels like she’s harassing men?

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“I provide a training course which uses social skills development combined with a progressive female empowered philosophy on love. In that sense you could call me both a PUA and a feminist and I'm happy to accept both titles.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/should-outraged-pua-women/

She copy and pasted men's game for women, as if they have the same nature. Not only will women find it very hard to approach random men, but those men will be weirded out by a behavior that attractive women simply never have to do. A man walking up to an attractive women displays confidence. A women doing the same displays hopeless desperation (or inebriation). But no matter; in a progressive age, the coach will make a few bucks out of it and her clients will feel "empowered."

Her site: https://hayleyquinn.com/women-blog/going-renegade/

 

[Silver_Tube]

I have a fat sister nearing 30 that caught me reading 'The Game' several years ago, she'd be just the type to take a course like this. She asks me how game for girls is supposed to work and does not like to hear. "Exist in public and choose your favorite among those that approach you." To be fair to her I've seen her at parties, only weird ugly schmucks approach her. She friendzones the best of those guys, a couple of them seem like decent fellows, those poor bastards.

She has a nice singing voice and could be pretty if she wasn't so fat, it's kind of sad.

I think there is a sort of game that fat girls develop, they do occasionally approach and try to demonstrate their redeeming qualities through conversation. I find that if you give them the time of day it flags more of them to come after you, then suddenly you are the whale shepherd of the group and the pretty ones have marked you as unattractive due to be surrounded by fat girls.

 

[Jones]

They'll be seen as desperate based on age alone. Attractive women under 25 will not need this.

27 and divorced?

 

[weambulance]

I think the women will find even if attractive men are receptive to their approaches, they will not be valued the way girls the men have to chase down and lasso are. The guys might fuck them, might even date them, but they won't readily value what they didn't work for, and the men will cheat opportunistically.

 

[Samseau]

They'll be seen as desperate based on age alone. Attractive women under 25 will not need this.

27 and divorced?

So if this woman approached you, you wouldn't bang? Come on.

She copy and pasted men's game for women, as if they have the same nature. Not only will women find it very hard to approach random men, but those men will be weirded out by a behavior that attractive women simply never have to do. A man walking up to an attractive women displays confidence. A women doing the same displays hopeless desperation (or inebriation). But no matter; in a progressive age, the coach will make a few bucks out of it and her clients will feel "empowered."

While we know that game for men cannot be switched to game for women, the mere act of a woman approaching a man actually helps her get laid with a man. Of this there can be no question. She has to be pretty, but if a woman does a bit of work for the man to getting her into the sack then that isn't going to discourage the man. Even if she comes across as desperate - who cares. Desperate lays = easy lays.

Whether or not the man stays in a relationship with her is a different question. Given what we know of women's predilection towards Alphas we also know women will be approaching on only the top men, men who generally have plenty of options.

Game for men can help them date up, but game for women almost certainly means not much more than a higher notch count. So yes, a scam overall.

The best advice for women still can be attributed to Roissy: "Lower your standards and learn to settle."

 

[Jones]

If this woman, Alexandra, approached me, I know and have seen too much to say yes.

That being said:

She doesn't need to approach anyone if she looks this good.

I wouldn't approach her because I'm not attracted to her.

Her at 21 is worse than her at 27 if you want to check her out.

In her case, she's looking for more than getting laid. She's 27, divorced, and doesn't want to settle.

This woman wants to fool men into getting a better deal than what they are getting.

A feminist in sheep's clothing.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

whale shepherd

 

[Harvey Specter]

They'll be seen as desperate based on age alone. Attractive women under 25 will not need this.

27 and divorced?

So if this woman approached you, you wouldn't bang? Come on.

Of course you are, but doubtful she looks that good when it isn't a shopped picture.

 

[Dalaran1991]

WB for easy lay, would not disclose full name (nor address if in the US)

Samseau got it right, I want to add this: this is not game for women. Game for women = how to secure commitment and extract resources from as many men as possible, and from the most attractive men she can find.

So this "coach" is not teaching game, she is giving them vagina widening courses, horrible post-coitus experiences, and frustration of not being able to find "Mr.Right", and amplified long-term unhappiness.

Learning for settle down like Samseau said, can not be taught in a toxic environment like the West where women have unlimited encouragement and options.

That aside, I actually think this might be a good thing for us. It is possible to find attractive women in such group. Some decent looking girls are spending time alone for their own whackjob reason.

Seeing girls approaching guys would also very slowly start a shift in paradigm, and maybe approaching girls would be viewed less as creepy.

 

[General Stalin]

Need to find out what venues this bitch is hosting her workshops and post up like

 

[Bobco]

If the coach was worth her salt she would simply preach self improvement to women.

 

[Private Man]

If the coach was worth her salt she would simply preach self improvement to women.

Successful dating coaches with a female clientele teach his/her clients to be more feminine.

 

[fugly1000]

So there's a Female Bang book? I'd sue her., we all know a women generally never have an original idea.

 

[kaotic]

When are women going to understand, guys game doesn't work on guys.

A girl approaching me and hitting on me is an automatic red flag for slut tells.

She's down for the D and that's it.

I'd automatically assume she's doing this with other dudes.

Game isn't built for chicks - it's built for us guys.

All a girl needs to be is in shape and pretty just to be hit on or collect a bagful of dicks on a dating app.

Women who won't settle are hitting the wall need to realize that this shit wont work on use when there's a young hotter woman right around the corner.

We love the hunt, not being hunted.

 

[debeguiled]

Meh.

Remember her from a couple years ago, associated with some of the London Game guys, teaching game to guys.

Regurgitating all the things the guys have been saying for years.

There were even articles about her as a woman teaching pick-up skills to men.

She isn't trying to teach anyone anything. Just making a buck.

Probably the market of self-hating men who wanted to learn pick-up from a woman dried up and she just changed all the photos and gendered pronouns on her website from men to women, and was back in business.

She is more of a novelty act:

Look, a woman teaching pick-up to guys!

Look, women learning all the tricks of guys!

She is the living embodiment of clickbait. Too old to be jailbait.

Would have banged a few years ago.

 

[SlickyBoy]

This woman is nuts, and now, quite obviously, is just trying to make some coin off of similarly situated harpies. She's charges 25 pounds a month for membership in her club.

I just tried to sit through her TEDx talk, but all I get out of it is an aging soon-to-be cat lady with a boat load of regrets for letting an army of cock inside her well worn vagina. Even looking past the banana titties, Oprah-arms and an annoying working class British accent, I'm too distracted to even get to whatever her point is other than self-pity. I think the only advice someone like this could give women would likely be the wrong advice.

 

[scorpion]

In my entire life I can only think of one occasion when an unknown woman approached me out of the blue during the day, completely sober, in an obviously flirtatious manner. I remember finding it extremely offputting even though she was above average attractiveness. I could not help but think there was something wrong with her. The very act of a decently attractive woman approaching is a massive DLV on her part, essentially communicating that she is incredibly undesirable and desperate to be reduced to such a tactic. Or, failing that, that she is a slut on a magnitude that is difficult to comprehend, a literal nymphomaniac who will fuck anyone.

I would like to write a book on girl game. It would be 700 pages long. But each page would only contain the following:

1) Don't be fat
2) Smile more
3) Don't nag, bitch or complain

100% of the readers who followed the advice would find a man within a few months.

0% of the readers would actually follow the advice.

 

[debeguiled]

In my entire life I can only think of one occasion when an unknown woman approached me out of the blue during the day, completely sober, in an obviously flirtatious manner. I remember finding it extremely offputting even though she was above average attractiveness. I could not help but think there was something wrong with her. The very act of a decently attractive woman approaching is a massive DLV on her part, essentially communicating that she is incredibly undesirable and desperate to be reduced to such a tactic. Or, failing that, that she is a slut on a magnitude that is difficult to comprehend, a literal nymphomaniac who will fuck anyone.

I would like to write a book on girl game. It would be 700 pages long. But each page would only contain the following:

1) Don't be fat
2) Smile more
3) Don't nag, bitch or complain

100% of the readers who followed the advice would find a man within a few months.

0% of the readers would actually follow the advice.

I remember reading a comment from the only other woman who teaches Pick-up to guys that I know of, Kezia Noble, who, when asked if she would ever teach game to women, said, "No, they would just argue with me."

 

[General Stalin]

I don't believe all this hub bub about women approaching men being a nono, slut tell, DLV, act of desperation, or general romantic faux pas.

Some of you guys saying how "off put" you were by a girl opening you sounds ridiculous. Any guy who is good looking gets approached by women. Are all those women who open them desperate and damaged whores? Or maybe they just find the dude attractive and don't want to let an opportunity for romance slip away. I've been approached several times in my life and it's been great, and I don't even think I'm that much of a looker. Hell, we now have dating apps centered around women initiating the conversation.

Now, I would say if a woman approaches a man and the man shows no interest in interacting further but the woman presses on, then that seems desperate... but no more desperate than a man doing the same. Men don't play hard to get like women do because we don't guard our sexuality. I see nothing wrong with a woman approaching a man flirtatiously. There are a number of women I would not have had the pleasure of dating and experiencing in my life if this did not happen.

 

[A Simple Visitor]

I can only remember 2 times when women have cold approached me to flirt:

- A 25ish 6+, looking at me at the supermarket, with strangely wide open eyes (clearly crazy eyes).
I slightly smile to her, more confused than anything else.
She comes and briefly talks about something I don't remember.
Then a dude working there joins us, and ask her how her son is doing, I promply eject. (Thanks man, by the way)
While I'm leaving she says to my back "But I'm single!".
The whole scene frightened me, there definitively was something off about her (mentally hospitalised level of off).

- A 40 5-, while waiting for the elevator.
The way she was trying to talk was so inquisitive, so unnatural, that I could only think of taking the stairs.

Women are not meant to approach, or at least not directly.
This annihilates all their charms.
If they really want to, I strongly advise Roosh's Elderly Approach, rather than a direct one.