Female dating coach teaches older women how to approach men

[Quintus Curtius]

I think there's a danger of reading too much negatives into this. Some of my friends posting here may be taking too hard a line.

We need to start from a baseline realization that today in the United States both genders are far more socially inept (on average) than their peers might have been 15, 25, or 35 years ago. Social media, internet, and everything else has combined to produce a generation of functional drones who have about as much interactive ability with the opposite gender as a cactus has to a tumbleweed. It's sad.

Women in the US have been taught to fear and hate men by the media; and at the same time, they constitute an institutionally-protected class who can supposedly do no wrong. Both of these things fly in the face of reality, of course. But their net effect is to implant crippling neuroses in the minds of many American women. Many of them have little sex drive and have no idea how to hold a conversation with a man.

So for me I'm willing to cut this "instructor" a bit of slack. It may be opportunistic and it may be partially bullshit, but for Christ's sake, people, at least someone's doing something.

I personally have no problem with women taking the initiative in matters of love. Like everything else, it all comes down to how it's done. It all depends: everything is in the execution. I've been lucky in my life to have been approached by both attractive and and unattractive women. And you know what? I've appreciated it every time, even if I was not attracted to her. Of course no one likes to be badgered by a dunce. But you have to give people credit for trying.

I'll never hold it against anyone for making a sincere effort and coming from a position of good faith. To me, that is all-important.

 

[XPQ22]

I have a fat sister nearing 30 that caught me reading 'The Game' several years ago, she'd be just the type to take a course like this. She asks me how game for girls is supposed to work and does not like to hear. "Exist in public and choose your favorite among those that approach you." To be fair to her I've seen her at parties, only weird ugly schmucks approach her. She friendzones the best of those guys, a couple of them seem like decent fellows, those poor bastards.

There's a lot of talk among Internet-philosopher red pill academics of how women are all shameless hypergamous utility-maximizers, constantly searching for the best deal.

Which is certainly rather strange, as after a decent amount of time hitting the pavements in my own game adventure I'd say my comment on most of the dudes the best looking girls around here pick to boyfriend/husband up would be "Well, he certainly seems, ah...."

"Girl game" seems to mostly be passing on the kind of guy I'd actually consider a solid man and want to be friends with, and pining over an unemployed Moroccan drug dealer who won't return her texts instead. If most women relied on evaluating men "on paper" vs. evaluating men "on hamster", we'd all be getting 1000 times more pussy than we already do.

This is why I recommend dating librarians. Sure, you gotta give 'em tingles just like any girl, but they also know how to do their homework.

All a girl needs to be is in shape and pretty just to be hit on or collect a bagful of dicks on a dating app.

For the next dating app startup name, I don't think they could go very wrong by choosing "bagful of dicks."

 

[XPQ22]

Women are not meant to approach, or at least not directly.
This annihilates all their charms.
If they really want to, I strongly advise Roosh's Elderly Approach, rather than a direct one.

It seems young women have so little knowledge of how to socially engage with their peers that they come off as two ways when trying to "approach" me: a cunt or a wild-eyed crazy person.

Most girl-approaches online or in person throw me into red-alert mode thinking "So, ah, what fashion of crazy are ya?"

Only two cute girls in the past year that I recall opened me on a dating app with what I thought was "good girl game": Don't be crazy, snarky-cuntish, or send me a one-liner like "Hi" or "Pretty eyes", but just write a two sentence message where you resemble some fashion of a normal person trying to start a conversation. And I ended up banging both of them, hitting it off really well, and hooking up for months to the point that a monogamous LTR with one or the other was frankly looking pretty good. I ended up not going down that route, but I'm sure many other guys just as appealing might have and probably will.

OKCupid's own data shows that women end up with overall more attractive guys and are more satisfied in their relationships, whatever they may be, when they strike first. And yet it seems amazingly uncommon, even for some guys I know running online game that are much more conventionally attractive than I am.

 

[Menace]

That site is a marketing site with a long-form copywritten sales pitch. Playing to people's insecurities by offering a succeed-fast approach for a low low price is a proven money maker. Nothing wrong with that, but that's all it is. As a man, getting good at meeting women (if you're not naturally good at it) is not easy and requires self reflection. Most women are congenitally incapable of these actions because they are women. Many of them think it is enough to simply "be" and they will find a man. That is true if they are desirable, but many (most?) are not.

Can't tell you how many women I am aware of who think that them being "smart" and having their life together means they are good catches, meanwhile they are fat, dress like shit, and generally unpleasant and/or unfeminine. Seemingly billions of women in non-English speaking countries have figured out that men are attracted to thin sexy women, but this secret knowledge has somehow eluded the highly educated types that frequent major American (and likely British and Australian) cities.

 

[kaotic]

I don't believe all this hub bub about women approaching men being a nono, slut tell, DLV, act of desperation, or general romantic faux pas.

Some of you guys saying how "off put" you were by a girl opening you sounds ridiculous. Any guy who is good looking gets approached by women. Are all those women who open them desperate and damaged whores? Or maybe they just find the dude attractive and don't want to let an opportunity for romance slip away. I've been approached several times in my life and it's been great, and I don't even think I'm that much of a looker. Hell, we now have dating apps centered around women initiating the conversation.

Now, I would say if a woman approaches a man and the man shows no interest in interacting further but the woman presses on, then that seems desperate... but no more desperate than a man doing the same. Men don't play hard to get like women do because we don't guard our sexuality. I see nothing wrong with a woman approaching a man flirtatiously. There are a number of women I would not have had the pleasure of dating and experiencing in my life if this did not happen.

Come on Stalin you don't think it would even raise an eyebrow ?

When was the last time a girl rolled up on you like you would a girl ?

I've had girls comment on certain facial features, at a show, at a party or a bar.

But I couldn't tell you the last time a woman opened me indirect or direct like we're talking about on here.

It's not off putting (that's the guys issue) but if a girl is hitting on me, she's down to fuck for sure.

So it definitely piques my interest and I'll roll with it.

 

[RedPillUK]

I approached a pretty blonde girl at a bar, she immediately goes 'wait... hang on my friend wants to meet you.' She brings out her friend who wasn't bad looking really, a mixed race girl with a pretty smile and little bit chubby, I would say around a 6, (my standards are harsh I don't think 10s exist in the state of nature, and I rarely see 9s or 8s, so I cannot call her a good looking 7. Also decimal points ruin the whole system and are for fags.)

Anyway, I tried flirting with her and put my arm around her waist, she was smiling and very friendly to me and everything but my vibe was off because I wasn't really feeling it. I got a bit weirded out and bored and ejected a few minutes later.

I think it was because it took a lot of the thrill out of doing things in my normal way. It felt strange because there was no tension there. There was attraction, but I think that you need some sexual tension or things go flat, similiar to how if you make out with a girl you just met too much, you might not take her home. Next time that happens I'll just escalate harder or do something else to build that tension.

I think you could easily teach girls how to put themselves in positions to be approached (where to stand, how to dress, eye contact, diet advice) or have them try indirect, elderly openers. That would work well and most guys wouldn't even have a clue they're being 'approached'.

 

[CaptainChardonnay]

I have a fat sister nearing 30 that caught me reading 'The Game' several years ago, she'd be just the type to take a course like this. She asks me how game for girls is supposed to work and does not like to hear. "Exist in public and choose your favorite among those that approach you." To be fair to her I've seen her at parties, only weird ugly schmucks approach her. She friendzones the best of those guys, a couple of them seem like decent fellows, those poor bastards.

She has a nice singing voice and could be pretty if she wasn't so fat, it's kind of sad.

I think there is a sort of game that fat girls develop, they do occasionally approach and try to demonstrate their redeeming qualities through conversation. I find that if you give them the time of day it flags more of them to come after you, then suddenly you are the whale shepherd of the group and the pretty ones have marked you as unattractive due to be surrounded by fat girls.

a good blowjob

 

[XPQ22]

I approached a pretty blonde girl at a bar, she immediately goes 'wait... hang on my friend wants to meet you.'

 

[SlickyBoy]

- A 40 5-, while waiting for the elevator.
The way she was trying to talk was so inquisitive, so unnatural, that I could only think of taking the stairs.

This happens a lot to me from women in this age group and above. The eager smiles, the too-long stares, their initiated conversations about nothing, it all reeks of desperation the way that a guy trying too hard must reek to younger, attractive women.

What's sad is many of these older women were probably much more attractive 20+ years ago, but now they're well past their sell date and they're so obviously aware that it's just too late for them now. Young women consciously know this can happen to them, yet so few take proper steps to prepare for its eventual arrival.

 

[thedream]

In my entire life I can only think of one occasion when an unknown woman approached me out of the blue during the day, completely sober, in an obviously flirtatious manner. I remember finding it extremely offputting even though she was above average attractiveness. I could not help but think there was something wrong with her. The very act of a decently attractive woman approaching is a massive DLV on her part, essentially communicating that she is incredibly undesirable and desperate to be reduced to such a tactic. Or, failing that, that she is a slut on a magnitude that is difficult to comprehend, a literal nymphomaniac who will fuck anyone.

I would like to write a book on girl game. It would be 700 pages long. But each page would only contain the following:

1) Don't be fat
2) Smile more
3) Don't nag, bitch or complain

100% of the readers who followed the advice would find a man within a few months.

0% of the readers would actually follow the advice.

The simplicity of truth is a beautiful thing to observe, like admiring at mountains or the sunset.

 

[griffinmill]

The minute a girl approaches me out of the blue, it's over.

I don't want to belong to a club that would have someone like me for a member.