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<blockquote data-quote="Quintus Curtius" data-source="post: 1038789" data-attributes="member: 4991">I think there's a danger of reading too much negatives into this.&nbsp; Some of my friends posting here may be taking too hard a line.&nbsp; We need to start from a baseline realization that today in the United States both genders are far more socially inept (on average) than their peers might have been 15, 25, or 35 years ago.&nbsp; Social media, internet, and everything else has combined to produce a generation of functional drones who have about as much interactive ability with the opposite gender as a cactus has to a tumbleweed.&nbsp; It's sad.&nbsp; Women in the US have been taught to fear and hate men by the media; and at the same time, they constitute an institutionally-protected class who can supposedly do no wrong.&nbsp; Both of these things fly in the face of reality, of course.&nbsp; But their net effect is to implant crippling neuroses in the minds of many American women.&nbsp; Many of them have little sex drive and have no idea how to hold a conversation with a man.&nbsp; So for me I'm willing to cut this &quot;instructor&quot; a bit of slack.&nbsp; It may be opportunistic and it may be partially bullshit, but for Christ's sake, people, at least someone's doing something.&nbsp; I personally have no problem with women taking the initiative in matters of love.&nbsp; Like everything else, it all comes down to how it's done.&nbsp; It all depends: everything is in the execution.&nbsp; I've been lucky in my life to have been approached by both attractive and and unattractive women.&nbsp; And you know what?&nbsp; I've appreciated it every time, even if I was not attracted to her.&nbsp; Of course no one likes to be badgered by a dunce.&nbsp; But you have to give people credit for trying.I'll never hold it against anyone for making a sincere effort and coming from a position of good faith.&nbsp; To me, that is all-important.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Quintus Curtius, post: 1038789, member: 4991"] I think there's a danger of reading too much negatives into this. Some of my friends posting here may be taking too hard a line. We need to start from a baseline realization that today in the United States both genders are far more socially inept (on average) than their peers might have been 15, 25, or 35 years ago. Social media, internet, and everything else has combined to produce a generation of functional drones who have about as much interactive ability with the opposite gender as a cactus has to a tumbleweed. It's sad. Women in the US have been taught to fear and hate men by the media; and at the same time, they constitute an institutionally-protected class who can supposedly do no wrong. Both of these things fly in the face of reality, of course. But their net effect is to implant crippling neuroses in the minds of many American women. Many of them have little sex drive and have no idea how to hold a conversation with a man. So for me I'm willing to cut this "instructor" a bit of slack. It may be opportunistic and it may be partially bullshit, but for Christ's sake, people, at least someone's doing something. I personally have no problem with women taking the initiative in matters of love. Like everything else, it all comes down to how it's done. It all depends: everything is in the execution. I've been lucky in my life to have been approached by both attractive and and unattractive women. And you know what? I've appreciated it every time, even if I was not attracted to her. Of course no one likes to be badgered by a dunce. But you have to give people credit for trying. I'll never hold it against anyone for making a sincere effort and coming from a position of good faith. To me, that is all-important. [/QUOTE]

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