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<blockquote data-quote="SlickyBoy" data-source="post: 1130927" data-attributes="member: 8508"><p>Ugh...I didn't want this to turn into another 911 conspiracy nut job thread, but I might be too late....</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The part about not storing fighters - especially not DC National Guard (read: part time weekend warrior aircraft that don't fly as much as active duty birds) without weapons is not bullshit. Any USAF bomb loader can tell you this - those planes were not kept with weapons at the ready. Commanders are extremely paranoid of accidents happening on their watch since that would endanger promotion potential - so no dice. Same deal with the National Guard troops that were propped up at airports all over the place right afterwards - they had no rounds in their magazines. Empty fucking weapons. Policy may have changed for the fighters and readiness posture, but if it did, I seriously doubt it is still that way over a decade later - paranoia about accidents sets in, commanders want to get their fourth star, etc. Not much changes in a bureaucracy. </p><p></p><p>I was in uniform when this happened. People who think there was a shoot down are smoking some serious crack. It did not happen that way - full stop. Even if it did and they wanted to cover it up, the US military is <strong><em>horrendously bad</em></strong> at keeping a secret that big - everyone involved from that unit, other branches, the FAA, civilian law enforcement agencies, right down to the enlisted Air Force bomb loader who had to update the inventory of whatever munitions were expended when the planes returned would know the truth and it would be out eventually. </p><p></p><p>Think of the USS Liberty - those sailers were ordered not to talk about what went down that day, but whaddya know, eventually they did. If you're waiting for something similar to come out of 911, you'll be disappointed. </p><p></p><p><strong>There is no alternative history here. </strong></p><p><strong>No conspiracy.</strong></p><p><strong>No black helicopters. </strong></p><p></p><p>Jesus, I pointed this article out for the whole female ego and participation trophy angle and I got an unexpected Truther eruption...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SlickyBoy, post: 1130927, member: 8508"] Ugh...I didn't want this to turn into another 911 conspiracy nut job thread, but I might be too late.... The part about not storing fighters - especially not DC National Guard (read: part time weekend warrior aircraft that don't fly as much as active duty birds) without weapons is not bullshit. Any USAF bomb loader can tell you this - those planes were not kept with weapons at the ready. Commanders are extremely paranoid of accidents happening on their watch since that would endanger promotion potential - so no dice. Same deal with the National Guard troops that were propped up at airports all over the place right afterwards - they had no rounds in their magazines. Empty fucking weapons. Policy may have changed for the fighters and readiness posture, but if it did, I seriously doubt it is still that way over a decade later - paranoia about accidents sets in, commanders want to get their fourth star, etc. Not much changes in a bureaucracy. I was in uniform when this happened. People who think there was a shoot down are smoking some serious crack. It did not happen that way - full stop. Even if it did and they wanted to cover it up, the US military is [b][i]horrendously bad[/i][/b] at keeping a secret that big - everyone involved from that unit, other branches, the FAA, civilian law enforcement agencies, right down to the enlisted Air Force bomb loader who had to update the inventory of whatever munitions were expended when the planes returned would know the truth and it would be out eventually. Think of the USS Liberty - those sailers were ordered not to talk about what went down that day, but whaddya know, eventually they did. If you're waiting for something similar to come out of 911, you'll be disappointed. [b]There is no alternative history here. No conspiracy. No black helicopters. [/b] Jesus, I pointed this article out for the whole female ego and participation trophy angle and I got an unexpected Truther eruption... [/QUOTE]
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