That's weird, I thought it was the opposite?
Female fertility and age
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That's weird, I thought it was the opposite?
I feel like we hear so little about this, largely because it's a feminist issue that, unsurprisingly, dovetails nicely with the interests of multinational pharmaceuticals. The pill is presented as a completely benign thing you use to turn off your fertility for a while. We're expected to believe that women who started taking exogenous hormones often quite young, 14 even, still very much in the adolescent and puberty years, and have taken them consistently 3 weeks out of 4 for years, even decades, have not experienced any side effects from that.
And yet, this is what people believe.
Freezing eggs in a woman's 30s is such a huge medical scam. The eggs are already close to expired. No one would freeze meat you bought on final clearance, the idea of freezing final clearance eggs - and paying a premium to do - is ridiculous. She should have humbled herself and accepted the best man she could get.
Seeker79
Kingfisher
Yet how often you hear women say stuff like "he forced me to go on the pill for his own pleasure! now my body is all messed up because the birth control pills are making my hormones go out of wack."
Here's a funny one - she shacked up with one of the best man she could have gotten.
We are talking about a brilliant guy (M.Sc. EE), founded 3 startups, had money, funny and is also a nice guy. We were both in officer's training.
She told me that he did not pay her attention, because he was very busy. Also - she wanted to travel a lot (I'm talking going abroad 3-4 times a year for extended periods) and he didn't.
Oh, and he is Alpha (to an extent - leader of men).
At the time I didn't understand, but took her word for it.
Now we know that "Hypergamy trumps all"
Hah, one of my best friends from childhood did this. Only he was about 26/27 and she was like 38-39.
Now over a year later and she’s still nopregnant and he’s looking aggressively for a house at the same time.
I kind of alluded this to him before in the nicest way that still got my thoughts across. He didn’t listen.
The real possibility of having an aging wife that never gave you kids and being in debt for a house... why would you make your life like that.
People give into the narrative too quickly and easily.
From what I've seen, I think women in their early 30s can still produce a good amount of children if they get married by 30 at the latest. Obviously this isn't ideal, it's better to start younger but it's pretty much the norm now. Don Jr and his ex wife Vanessa had 5 kids starting at age 29. Im just using them as an example because you probably know them. My wife is the same age as me, we met at 28, got married at 30, had our first baby at 31, second baby at 32, and we're 33 and expecting our 3rd kid at 34 (3 kids in 3 years). From the data I've seen and friends experiences, there's a slight drop off in female fertility at 30, a steeper drop off at about 36, and almost all women are completely infertile by 43. The problem is a lot of women seem to think they have all the time in the world and can wait until 35 to start looking for a husband. It seems like a short time but there's a huge difference between a woman getting married at 28 and getting married at 34
Hypno
Crow
Your statistics are the wrong ones. Don’t ask what is the likelihood that a woman will become pregnant. Rather, ask what is the likelihood that she will become pregnant and deliver a full term healthy baby. The chance of a miscarriage increases with age and also with the number of past abortions. (The number of past abortions is directly correlated to age.)
So she never wanted children in the first place. If she really did want children, she would not want to travel so much. Sounds like she wanted a mini me, an accessory child. Her man was an accessory too. She wanted to look good on IG with a good man, trips around the world, and a cute child. She wants to show the world she can have it all. She does not know what "it all" is.
Even so. There will be less viable eggs and more mutants. So prepare for consequences either for your children or grandchildren and others in your line.
Those who make the decisions may be long dead. But they will all pay for the decisions of their ancestors.
My kids are the grandchildren of grandparents who had their kids in their early 30s on both sides and they're perfectly healthy. So no, my parents didn't have genetic mutations and "consequences" for their grandchildren. I'm sure you know lots of healthy people who are the children/grandchildren of people who had a kid at 32.
We may be at our peak to have kids at 18 but that's not the reality for most people outside of single teen moms and extremely religious groups. You can still get married in your late 20s and still have a large family if you want. Most people don't want more than 2-3 kids though. Most 25 year old men these days don't even want to get married any time soon.
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Doesn't change the facts statistically as other posters have pointed out. It's only a matter of repeating such a practice before it becomes bad enough to manifest.
There is more mutation load building up than if the woman married in her 20's.
Which is also likewise true of the people you talk about.
It's good that your generations genetic profile starts off very well.
But on the whole across that entire group you are talking about. There will be more problems than if women in that group married younger statistically down the generations.
Especially if that tradition repeats itself.
Genetic load builds up. The best that can be done is minimising bad roll of the dice.
In the numbers game it's going to result in problems soon enough. Especially if the start is in the 30's- 40's
Genetic load - Wikipedia
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I know 1 girl who froze her egg in her early 30s, and another froze them after 35. Both used up their eggs with no success. It was not only heart breaking in the end, the physical and emotional toll of IVF was over whelming.
It makes sense to marry younger women for increased fertility, but you also have to weigh your probability of finding a younger wife. Your chance of fathering a child is zero if you don't find a partner.
en.wikipedia.org
About 70% of married couples are within 5 years of each other.
If you are 45 y/o and you want to marry a girl younger than 30. According to population statistics your chance is < 1%. Or you can marry a 35 year old that already fancy you and have whatever 30-60% chance of conceiving.
Hopefully no too many guys here in there late 30s and 40s are holding tightly onto their dream of a 23 year old virgin. They might end up alone in their 40s and 50s surfing the web for conspiracy theories. This advice goes for myself too lol
Age disparity in sexual relationships - Wikipedia
About 70% of married couples are within 5 years of each other.
If you are 45 y/o and you want to marry a girl younger than 30. According to population statistics your chance is < 1%. Or you can marry a 35 year old that already fancy you and have whatever 30-60% chance of conceiving.
Hopefully no too many guys here in there late 30s and 40s are holding tightly onto their dream of a 23 year old virgin. They might end up alone in their 40s and 50s surfing the web for conspiracy theories. This advice goes for myself too lol
It makes sense to marry younger women for increased fertility, but you also have to weigh your probability of finding a younger wife. Your chance of fathering a child is zero if you don't find a partner.
Age disparity in sexual relationships - Wikipedia
About 70% of married couples are within 5 years of each other.
If you are 45 y/o and you want to marry a girl younger than 30. According to population statistics your chance is < 1%. Or you can marry a 35 year old that already fancy you and have whatever 30-60% chance of conceiving.
Hopefully no too many guys here in there late 30s and 40s are holding tightly onto their dream of a 23 year old virgin. They might end up alone in their 40s and 50s surfing the web for conspiracy theories. This advice goes for myself too lol
Exactly. Most people choose spouses within a few years of their own age. Unless you are very rich and good looking, most 45 year old men are not going to find a 22 year old virgin to marry. Those good quality girls who "like older guys" are looking at guys 2-5 years older than them, not someone their fathers age. Unless they have daddy issues. Would you want your daughter marrying some loser you went to high school with? Also huge age gaps get awkward at social events. Typically married couples hang out with other married couples in their same age group. Men do have more time than women to find a spouse in a timely manner, but eventually youre kidding yourself if think as an average guy in your 40s and 50s you're suddenly going to find an amazing young wife.
I am an aberration, my wife was 17 when I turned 45; we married when I was 53. Still trying to give her a baby. Those odds are even longer.It makes sense to marry younger women for increased fertility, but you also have to weigh your probability of finding a younger wife. Your chance of fathering a child is zero if you don't find a partner.
Age disparity in sexual relationships - Wikipedia
About 70% of married couples are within 5 years of each other.
If you are 45 y/o and you want to marry a girl younger than 30. According to population statistics your chance is < 1%. Or you can marry a 35 year old that already fancy you and have whatever 30-60% chance of conceiving.
Hopefully no too many guys here in there late 30s and 40s are holding tightly onto their dream of a 23 year old virgin. They might end up alone in their 40s and 50s surfing the web for conspiracy theories. This advice goes for myself too lol
