FIFA Corruption Scandal - 6 Arrested for Extradition to USA

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Peregrine

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It is a bit unnerving to see that the US has enough power to basically drag you from whatever country you're in.

True. Thank God for Russia and China.

Vronsky said:
How did the US manage to move so fast to arrest foreign officials in a foreign country over a sport but not one banker has been arrested for the 2008 financial crisis?

For the same reason that the cop in Cleveland was acquitted - amongst other reasons, it would be difficult to pin a crime on any one particular person.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2014/jan/09/financial-crisis-why-no-executive-prosecutions/
 

JacksonRev

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kosko

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Qatar is scrambling with low oil prices with the obsene budget they proposed. They have already cut some stadiums and rumors are they are already running their capital budget for infrastructure dry. They might have to move it if Qatar can't even bring forward the bare minimums to host successfully. USA was already placed as a "plan b" if any of these hodge podge places can't make it work. USA can host with only a year notice.
 

Vacancier Permanent

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FIFA has been ran as a dictatorship fuelled by corruption since the days of Joao Havelange in the 70's. 2 men have been running or rather ruining it since the 70s, Joao Havelange in the 70's to 98 and Sepp Blatter since then. Time to remove that thief!

And giving the WC to Qatar was the biggest farce ever! I'm really getting tired with them trying to buy everything! They have been buying teams in Europe left and right (City and PSG come to mind). And they bought the 2015 Handball WC where as a host, they built a team of mercenaries from all over the world to represent them in the WC. In their WC team, only 1 Qatari the rest were all foreigners: croatians, germans, russians, spaniards, french, argentinians, egyptians etc. A team that had never won a single international match on their own, reached the WC finals with their team comprised of mercenaries! I wouldn't be surprised if their team for the 2022 WC team were to be the same. And that is an even bigger shame than buying the world cup altogether!

Fans and all the countries that are members of FIFA should band together and boycott that WC should they maintain the WC in Qatar!

Great alternatives would be Australia, China, Spain, England, Canada, USA. Anything but Qatar or any of those mickey mouse countries!

Blatter you're a THIEF! RAUS, OUT, FUORI, FUERA, FORA, DEHORS!
 

RedPillUK

Pelican
Hopefully:
Most of FIFA is arrested before the Qatari world cup.
None of the teams, players or fans go, it ends up being a 'world cup' of middle eastern countries.
Qatar goes bankrupt, left with empty falling down stadiums all over its country, and they're hated by the football world.
A rival organisation is formed instead which everyone joins.

.. Well I can dream can't I?
 

britchard

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Why should the USA get to host in emergency over the UK? We have better stadiums and atmosphere, a real football culture and there wouldn't be this silly business of teams having 5 hour flights for their next game.
 

Handsome Creepy Eel

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Vacancier Permanent said:
I'm really getting tired with Qatar trying to buy everything! They have been buying teams in Europe left and right (City and PSG come to mind).

Don't the previous owners of City and PSG suffer far more responsibility for selling the club, especially for selling it to Qataris? Why not take it up with them?
 

kosko

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britchard said:
Why should the USA get to host in emergency over the UK? We have better stadiums and atmosphere, a real football culture and there wouldn't be this silly business of teams having 5 hour flights for their next game.

USA just has a easier setup. In the summer no American football conflicts and it has 30 stadiums that could be used with proper hotel, highway, and airport access. This list below does not even include many college stadiums either, just mostly big NFL stadiums that would be empty in June/July.

Houston
Dallas (Arlington)
Phoenix (Glendale)
Chicago
New York (New Jersey)
Miami
Tampa Bay
San Francisco (Santa Clara)
Boston
Denver
Pasadena or Stanford
Washington DC

^^^^
All those cities could host in June/July of next year even if needed. Very little work would need to be done and it would not conflict with other soccer clubs as would happen in the UK since no MLS facilities would be used aside from Foxborro in Boston, you would also have to lay down sod in Boston but that takes 6 days max to do.

The USA was put as a permanent "Plan B" when South Africa was awarded the games just in case they couldn't pull it off. Plus no BS politics, If the UK was awarded emergency games then France and Germany and maybe other UEFA nations would start moaning and crying.
 

Steve Evets

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britchard said:
Why should the USA get to host in emergency over the UK? We have better stadiums and atmosphere, a real football culture and there wouldn't be this silly business of teams having 5 hour flights for their next game.

If we're talking 2022, it would be the US because that World Cup has to be non European one since 2018 is in Europe. All the original bidders were outside of Europe.
 

Saweeep

 
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kosko said:
britchard said:
Why should the USA get to host in emergency over the UK? We have better stadiums and atmosphere, a real football culture and there wouldn't be this silly business of teams having 5 hour flights for their next game.

USA just has a easier setup. In the summer no American football conflicts and it has 30 stadiums that could be used with proper hotel, highway, and airport access. This list below does not even include many college stadiums either, just mostly big NFL stadiums that would be empty in June/July.

Houston
Dallas (Arlington)
Phoenix (Glendale)
Chicago
New York (New Jersey)
Miami
Tampa Bay
San Francisco (Santa Clara)
Boston
Denver
Pasadena or Stanford
Washington DC

^^^^
All those cities could host in June/July of next year even if needed. Very little work would need to be done and it would not conflict with other soccer clubs as would happen in the UK since no MLS facilities would be used aside from Foxborro in Boston, you would also have to lay down sod in Boston but that takes 6 days max to do.

The USA was put as a permanent "Plan B" when South Africa was awarded the games just in case they couldn't pull it off. Plus no BS politics, If the UK was awarded emergency games then France and Germany and maybe other UEFA nations would start moaning and crying.

There is no football played in the UK during this time either.

To be honest, British stadia are far better suited to football, having been built for this very purpose.

There's also the fans to think about; European WC are just better from a time of match and travel point of view for most of the fans wealthy enough to attend at shortish notice. As we Europeans make up more of the teams, especially at the cutting edge, it makes more sense.

As for the others bitching a moaning; well we haven't had a WC for 50 years. Italy had 90, France had 98 and Germany 06.

Either way it is a moot point as said; this is a non Europe WC.
 

kosko

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CrashBangWallop said:
kosko said:
britchard said:
Why should the USA get to host in emergency over the UK? We have better stadiums and atmosphere, a real football culture and there wouldn't be this silly business of teams having 5 hour flights for their next game.

USA just has a easier setup. In the summer no American football conflicts and it has 30 stadiums that could be used with proper hotel, highway, and airport access. This list below does not even include many college stadiums either, just mostly big NFL stadiums that would be empty in June/July.

Houston
Dallas (Arlington)
Phoenix (Glendale)
Chicago
New York (New Jersey)
Miami
Tampa Bay
San Francisco (Santa Clara)
Boston
Denver
Pasadena or Stanford
Washington DC

^^^^
All those cities could host in June/July of next year even if needed. Very little work would need to be done and it would not conflict with other soccer clubs as would happen in the UK since no MLS facilities would be used aside from Foxborro in Boston, you would also have to lay down sod in Boston but that takes 6 days max to do.

The USA was put as a permanent "Plan B" when South Africa was awarded the games just in case they couldn't pull it off. Plus no BS politics, If the UK was awarded emergency games then France and Germany and maybe other UEFA nations would start moaning and crying.

There is no football played in the UK during this time either.

To be honest, British stadia are far better suited to football, having been built for this very purpose.

There's also the fans to think about; European WC are just better from a time of match and travel point of view for most of the fans wealthy enough to attend at shortish notice. As we Europeans make up more of the teams, especially at the cutting edge, it makes more sense.

As for the others bitching a moaning; well we haven't had a WC for 50 years. Italy had 90, France had 98 and Germany 06.

Either way it is a moot point as said; this is a non Europe WC.

Okay thanks for the correction as I assumed UK clubs still played as MLS oddly did last year during the WC.

Dont you worry the UK will pay dearly when it wants to host again when UEFA is in rotation to host. The reality is you don't need to sell snow to a polar bear with Europe and soccer. FIFA saw a big upsurge from USA '94 and there is still much more room to grow in the USA market. Any large EURO nation can host a WC but your not growing markets which is what corrupt FIFA has been attempting to do. USA TV will big cash money for TV rights relative to its population and viewer base.

Logistics are also much better in the USA. Yes the UK has short travel time and better Stadiums but the peons and plebs live very close to many UK Stadiums. To get a security plan in place would be more complex in the UK versus America where most Stadiums are in the middle of parking lots in the suburbs off the main highway. Its easier to put security on the ground in the most militarized country on earth on short notice. London had a difficult time with security and logistics for the Olympics due to the reality far to many people live close together in that region.

FIFA will need some PC play it safe nation next to host. Bets are that Canada with our third world level stadiums will likely get the nod. They are nudging either Australia or Canada to host but I believe Australia is out of rotation now due to switching federations.
 

Saweeep

 
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Lets face it, World Cups, Olympics etc are just an opportunity for Elites to funnel serious public money into their own pockets via the awarded contracts.

We're just a bit butthurt in the Uk that we are continually on FIFA's naughty step because we try, harder than most anyway, to play by the rules and get unhappy about how things are done. Hence no WC for 50 years :D
 

mastauser

 
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CrashBangWallop said:
Lets face it, World Cups, Olympics etc are just an opportunity for Elites to funnel serious public money into their own pockets via the awarded contracts.

We're just a bit butthurt in the Uk that we are continually on FIFA's naughty step because we try, harder than most anyway, to play by the rules and get unhappy about how things are done. Hence no WC for 50 years :D


THIS

When people talk about the World Cup or the Olympics "losing" money, I always have a bit of a chuckle.

They are HIGHLY profitable if you are on the inside. Billions of dollars in public and corporate money provide endless opportunities for rent seeking behavior, influence peddling, and outright theft.

Of course, if you are an average tax paying member of the public on the hook for the bonds that must be paid off over the course of decades it is not such a good deal.
 

britchard

Pelican
Sorry but to me, the world cup is all about the buzz and the atmosphere.

Germany '06- cracking tournament, one of the best ever, in a European country that lives football.

South Africa '10- decent tournament, just average all round. If it wasn't for all the controversy (lampard goal, suarez handball), would have been very underwhelming.

Brazil '14- very good tournament, the country just breathes football.

Korea/Japan '02- tournament that isn't really remembered for anything except incredibly high costs.

All the best tournaments are the ones hosted by countries that love the game, i.e European and South American countries, some African countries (but these lack the infrastructure).

Giving the world cup to the US over the UK would be like hosting an online international meeting on masculinity on Jezebel over RVF or Chateau Heartiste.
 

Vacancier Permanent

Crow
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I remember reading somewhere in a French paper that City and PSG are owned by the same family, two cousins. Since inter family breeding a are quite common in that part of the world. Even more so at the top elite levels.

Regarding a relocation of the 2022 WC, Australia, China or Canada would get my vote. It would make it to be a very unique atmosphere. A WC in England would have a far more appeal not to mention better atmosphere than in the US, not to mention more prestige for the players. Just playing at legendary and historic venues full of history like Anfield, Old Trafford, Wembley, St James Park etc vs playing at stadiums whose names few if any people outside these cities would know their name like would be the case in the US.

Another man that has been running another major sport like a dictator for the past few decades is Bernie Ecclestone with Formula 1. First it started with removing classic and historic circuits from the F1 calendar (Estoril, Magny Court, Imola just to name the most obvious ones) to make room for circuits in places with absolutely zero F1 tradition like India, Korea or Russia. All in the name developping F1 in new markets, hence lining up their pockets. Not to mention rigging seasons with their non sense and constantly changing regulations.

Time for both Sepp and Bernie to be ousted ASAP as they've both already done enough damage in their respective sport.
 

mastauser

 
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britchard said:
Sorry but to me, the world cup is all about the buzz and the atmosphere.

Germany '06- cracking tournament, one of the best ever, in a European country that lives football.

South Africa '10- decent tournament, just average all round. If it wasn't for all the controversy (lampard goal, suarez handball), would have been very underwhelming.

Brazil '14- very good tournament, the country just breathes football.

Korea/Japan '02- tournament that isn't really remembered for anything except incredibly high costs.

All the best tournaments are the ones hosted by countries that love the game, i.e European and South American countries, some African countries (but these lack the infrastructure).

Giving the world cup to the US over the UK would be like hosting an online international meeting on masculinity on Jezebel over RVF or Chateau Heartiste.


Don't underestimate the appeal of football in the USA.

The number of Hispanics in the USA is roughly equal to the total population of England.

If you happen to be in a Latino area (LA/socal, Florida, largest parts of Texas, Arizona, etc) when the Mexican national team is playing, people go fucking crazy.

Another example, I met up with a friend in a Brazilian neighborhood in the Boston area during the last World Cup and there were flags everywhere, street parties, bars were full, the whole deal.

Also lots more of the white population is now interested in football.

If you take into account the number of Hispanics and the increased interest of whites, I think in absolute numbers there are just as many football fans in the USA as any single European country.

We just have a shitty domestic league, since our top athletic talent is funneled to american football, basketball, and baseball.
 
Corruption aside, I find the notion of non-Americans being dragged back to America to serve sentencing for really worrying. Despite them contravening the law, it's in relation to a Swiss based corporation on European soil. They just can't help themselves but get involved.

Official reason being given is they used US Dollars and some American banks.
 
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