Fifty Shades of Grey Most Watched Trailer of 2014

[J556]

Even if the ideals of alpha intensity reach the masses they'll find a way to f it up.

That chick is a real bowser (looks like a KFC drive thru girl in OH or AL) and the dude looks like a neurotic bi-sexual like you would see in a low end Beamer in W. Hollywood. Charlie Hunnam (Jax on FXs Sons of Anarchy) was supposed to play Grey at least he is the son of a real mob boss in the UK and does manly crap like tons of pull ups and boxing as well as play a blast em up killer gang leader biker on Sons. I really don't think Hollywood wants manly men or masculine ideas celebrated as it would go against their pinko brainwashing of the proles ethos. It will be 2hrs of torture to watch this junk but at least the book shows you what hos all the pretend angels really are.

 

[It_is_my_time]

Not only is actress Dakota Johnson blah-looking, she got the role at least partially because of nepotism: she's the daughter of actors Don Johnson and Melanie Griffith.

This ups her appeal even more to the average American woman.

Most American women today love getting ahead by "networking" and disdain personal achievement because it threatens their own sense of "success" -- much of which has been based on the game being rigged in their favor (which they instinctively know).

Also, women love royalty, and Hollywood is America's royalty. Remember that women weren't the ones who broke away from King George III of England. Men forged the American idea of making it on your own.

If women get in charge, we'll probably have some form of monarchy within a generation. Wait, hold on -- considering the Clintons and Bushes, we probably already do.

WOW! This post hit me deep, personally. Thank you. It sort of tied things together for me about women and their complete worthlessness outside of the home/kitchen. It will be hard for me to take a woman that desires more out of her life than to be a good and faithful wife and mom serious again.

This is so true. Build a safe and stable society, after generations of sacrificing life and limb in war. Sacrificing life and limb in dangerous work. And a female brain cannot appreciate it. All they can do is think "wow, these things just came from some where, oh well, who cares I got a lot of gossiping to do today".

Men think that women think/appreciate what we do. They think women want freedom so they can improve their lives and improve themselves. This isn't true, and now I see why so many women are liberal. Women HATE freedom. They HATE personal growth. Because they are not equipped for it. They are better equipped for a corrupt society, where they can manipulate people to get what they want out of them and take advantage of others.

And this movie really displays that. Women are going ape shit over this movie and it all ties together. Women, for the most part, outside of the kitchen are a damage to society and to our children. They are the barbarians and they are already in the gate.

 

[OnlyMarryInTajikistan]

Christian Grey is the essence of higher-beta.

A suited up, clean-shaven kid throwing money like crazy at a 6.

As a poster above said, this book was never about sex, it simply fed into the spinster fantasy of landing a solid marriage prospect as an unremarkable post-wall and post-carousel American female.

 

[puckerman]

Ayn Rand often pointed out that people can be cut in two sexually and in other parts of their lives. Christian Grey is a man who has succeeded very well in the real world. He's built a business and gotten rich. However, he's clearly a loser in the world of love and sex.

The actors in this movie were hardly the first choices. Most serious actors know that this movie will be totally panned. I predict it wins every Razzie possible.

I know a lot of actors myself. I once teased one of the girls saying: "Out of all the actresses I know, you'd be best for the role of Anastasia Steele." She didn't know what to make of that.

The likes of Emma Watson and Jennifer Lawrence would never do this role, and good for them.

 

[The Reactionary Tree]

My reaction in the movie theater:

 

[Foolsgo1d]

I worked in a cinema. When movies heavily marketed towards women come out I had stares going through the back of my skull. This film would be even worse for male ushers.

This film/book may be called bullshit but from my experience it has unleashed a lot of women into the "spank me now" crowd. I can't fault it really.

 

[Days of Broken Arrows]

Not only is actress Dakota Johnson blah-looking, she got the role at least partially because of nepotism: she's the daughter of actors Don Johnson and Melanie Griffith.

This ups her appeal even more to the average American woman.

Most American women today love getting ahead by "networking" and disdain personal achievement because it threatens their own sense of "success" -- much of which has been based on the game being rigged in their favor (which they instinctively know).

Also, women love royalty, and Hollywood is America's royalty. Remember that women weren't the ones who broke away from King George III of England. Men forged the American idea of making it on your own.

If women get in charge, we'll probably have some form of monarchy within a generation. Wait, hold on -- considering the Clintons and Bushes, we probably already do.

WOW! This post hit me deep, personally. Thank you. It sort of tied things together for me about women and their complete worthlessness outside of the home/kitchen. It will be hard for me to take a woman that desires more out of her life than to be a good and faithful wife and mom serious again.

This is so true. Build a safe and stable society, after generations of sacrificing life and limb in war. Sacrificing life and limb in dangerous work. And a female brain cannot appreciate it. All they can do is think "wow, these things just came from some where, oh well, who cares I got a lot of gossiping to do today".

Men think that women think/appreciate what we do. They think women want freedom so they can improve their lives and improve themselves. This isn't true, and now I see why so many women are liberal. Women HATE freedom. They HATE personal growth. Because they are not equipped for it. They are better equipped for a corrupt society, where they can manipulate people to get what they want out of them and take advantage of others.

And this movie really displays that. Women are going ape shit over this movie and it all ties together. Women, for the most part, outside of the kitchen are a damage to society and to our children. They are the barbarians and they are already in the gate.

Thanks for the props and the rep point. But be careful of taking this too literally.

When I speak of women's behavior, I'm speaking of them as a group. In terms of individual women, your mileage may vary in degrees from that behavior.

Similarly, fans of certain types of music might be more likely to riot at concerts, but that doesn't mean individual fans will wreck your house if you invite them over.

That said, the groupthink women exhibit is the reason men didn't want them to vote or have a say in the country's future. Their sense of justice, for example, works well within a family, but is less fit for the general society. Same with their collective sense of what constitutes status. Men as a group didn't care about JFK, Jr., but women made him a star because of his lineage. You can find women you know who hated the guy, but women as a group made him famous.

Roissy has explained this better than I ever could and here are some of his posts on the matter:

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/10/04/the-problem-with-single-women-having-the-vote/

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011...e-increased-the-size-and-scope-of-government/

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/11/06/why-single-white-women-vote-overwhelmingly-for-democrats/

And one more from the Spearhead:
http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/09/15/how-female-suffrage-destroyed-western-civilization/

 

[Dr. Howard]

The male lead seems to be the result of this casting discussion "Well, we'd like James Deen but we can't have a porn star in the movie or we'll be laughed out of our careers...can you just find us someone that looks like him?"

 

[RockHard]

The male lead seems to be the result of this casting discussion "Well, we'd like James Deen but we can't have a porn star in the movie or we'll be laughed out of our careers...can you just find us someone that looks like him?"

I remember hearing last year that they had cast James Deen.

Probably James Deen wouldn't stoop that low.

 

[Slick Shimmer]

Youtube viewcounts from corporate sources mean very little as there is consistent spoofing to keep up appearances.

However I'm sure the film will be a box-office success.

 

[runsonmagic]

For those wanting a more masculine lead, the male lead was originally Sons of Anarchy star Charlie Hunnam.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/showbiz/490571/Charlie-Hunnam-talks-Fifty-Shades-of-Grey

He said he dropped out because he didn't feel like he could complete the physical transformation necessary for the character (getting ripped) in the 8 weeks he had between roles.

 

[TheWastelander]

For those wanting a more masculine lead, the male lead was originally Sons of Anarchy star Charlie Hunnam.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/showbiz/490571/Charlie-Hunnam-talks-Fifty-Shades-of-Grey

He said he dropped out because he didn't feel like he could complete the physical transformation necessary for the character (getting ripped) in the 8 weeks he had between roles.

I don't believe that for a second. The guy is ripped whenever I see him on TV, even between seasons of SoA. He probably read the script, thought it sounded stupid and turned down the role.

EDIT: Nevermind. Should've read the article first.

 

[Papaya]

The reason this is so appealing to women is really pretty simple. It's the same story that's been told for thousands of years with a modern "skin" on it. It's the story of Cinderella, Snow White, etc.


It's the female Monomyth- a term coined by Joseph Campbell the American mythologist, writer and lecturer, best known for his work in comparative mythology and comparative religion. His work is incredibly vast but in a nutshell he found that there are common fundamental character archetypes and themes throughout history and accross ALL civilizations that resonate at a primal level. In other words it's in our DNA to respond to these stories. We can't help it. His book "The Hero's Journey" inspired George Lucas to write Star Wars.

The story of Luke Skywalker is exactly the same as, that of Neo in the Matrix, King Arthur in Camelot, Hercules in Greek mythology even Moses and Jesus in the bible. It's the story of "the chosen one" and what they must overcome (their journey) to fulfill their destiny and save everyone else. Its repeated over and over and over through every single culture because it's an innate story to our collective experience of being humans. But it's a male story.

Women are sometimes portrayed in the hero's role, (Wonder Woman, Xena Warrior Princess, etc) and have some surface appeal (yeah you go girl kick ass) but this inauthentic version never resonates as powerfully as a male version.

The true female version of the monomyth is about being saved / rescued by the "Prince Charming" archetype. 50 Shades Of Grey is nothing more than Cinderella with a corrupted "skin" to fit our warped society's sensibilities.

I recommend reading Joseph Campbell's work. It's fascinating and I've found it incredibly useful in personal development. We are each on a journey. It's up to each of us as to whether that journey is one of a hero's

 

[RexImperator]

Since it was originally Twilight fan fiction, I guess it does makes sense that it sounds a lot like this:

 

[AnonymousBosch]

I don't believe that for a second. The guy is ripped whenever I see him on TV, even between seasons of SoA. He probably read the script, thought it sounded stupid and turned down the role.

EDIT: Nevermind. Should've read the article first.

Dude's playing the polite PR game, having enough common sense not to burn his bridges.

The dude they selected was a former Calvin Kline model, which is ultra-pre-selection for chicks, even though if men find a model hot we're 'shallow'.

 

[runsonmagic]

The reason this is so appealing to women is really pretty simple. It's the same story that's been told for thousands of years with a modern "skin" on it. It's the story of Cinderella, Snow White, etc.


It's the female Monomyth- a term coined by Joseph Campbell the American mythologist, writer and lecturer, best known for his work in comparative mythology and comparative religion. His work is incredibly vast but in a nutshell he found that there are common fundamental character archetypes and themes throughout history and accross ALL civilizations that resonate at a primal level. In other words it's in our DNA to respond to these stories. We can't help it. His book "The Hero's Journey" inspired George Lucas to write Star Wars.

The story of Luke Skywalker is exactly the same as, that of Neo in the Matrix, King Arthur in Camelot, Hercules in Greek mythology even Moses and Jesus in the bible. It's the story of "the chosen one" and what they must overcome (their journey) to fulfill their destiny and save everyone else. Its repeated over and over and over through every single culture because it's an innate story to our collective experience of being humans. But it's a male story.

Women are sometimes portrayed in the hero's role, (Wonder Woman, Xena Warrior Princess, etc) and have some surface appeal (yeah you go girl kick ass) but this inauthentic version never resonates as powerfully as a male version.

The true female version of the monomyth is about being saved / rescued by the "Prince Charming" archetype. 50 Shades Of Grey is nothing more than Cinderella with a corrupted "skin" to fit our warped society's sensibilities.

I recommend reading Joseph Campbell's work. It's fascinating and I've found it incredibly useful in personal development. We are each on a journey. It's up to each of us as to whether that journey is one of a hero's

This idea of a female monomyth you mentioned in the 50 Shades thread interests me. Do you have any other sources or reading material on it?

I'm a big fan of Joseph Campbells work. It seems like in male-centric stories, heroes are chosen by God. "The chosen one" applies to everyone from Jesus to Neo.

But in female-centric stories, women are chosen by men. Prince charming, beauty and the beast, etc. It fits the medieval hierarchy: men --> women --> children ---> animals.

Many would call this hierarchy oppressive, failing to recognize that each create above has a responsibility to those below. You wouldn't call a man "heroic" if he punched a small child or kicked an animal. In fact, the screenwriting book Save the Cat takes it's name from the fact you have to see a hero be kind to a weaker creature in order to establish his goodness and suggests that you need a scene where the villain "kicks a dog" to establish his cruelty.

But what is the female monomyth? There is a book here if it hasn't already been written.

 

[Papaya]

The reason this is so appealing to women is really pretty simple. It's the same story that's been told for thousands of years with a modern "skin" on it. It's the story of Cinderella, Snow White, etc.


It's the female Monomyth- a term coined by Joseph Campbell the American mythologist, writer and lecturer, best known for his work in comparative mythology and comparative religion. His work is incredibly vast but in a nutshell he found that there are common fundamental character archetypes and themes throughout history and accross ALL civilizations that resonate at a primal level. In other words it's in our DNA to respond to these stories. We can't help it. His book "The Hero's Journey" inspired George Lucas to write Star Wars.

The story of Luke Skywalker is exactly the same as, that of Neo in the Matrix, King Arthur in Camelot, Hercules in Greek mythology even Moses and Jesus in the bible. It's the story of "the chosen one" and what they must overcome (their journey) to fulfill their destiny and save everyone else. Its repeated over and over and over through every single culture because it's an innate story to our collective experience of being humans. But it's a male story.

Women are sometimes portrayed in the hero's role, (Wonder Woman, Xena Warrior Princess, etc) and have some surface appeal (yeah you go girl kick ass) but this inauthentic version never resonates as powerfully as a male version.

The true female version of the monomyth is about being saved / rescued by the "Prince Charming" archetype. 50 Shades Of Grey is nothing more than Cinderella with a corrupted "skin" to fit our warped society's sensibilities.

I recommend reading Joseph Campbell's work. It's fascinating and I've found it incredibly useful in personal development. We are each on a journey. It's up to each of us as to whether that journey is one of a hero's

This idea of a female monomyth you mentioned in the 50 Shades thread interests me. Do you have any other sources or reading material on it?

I'm a big fan of Joseph Campbells work. It seems like in male-centric stories, heroes are chosen by God. "The chosen one" applies to everyone from Jesus to Neo.

But in female-centric stories, women are chosen by men. Prince charming, beauty and the beast, etc. It fits the medieval hierarchy: men --> women --> children ---> animals.

Many would call this hierarchy oppressive, failing to recognize that each create above has a responsibility to those below. You wouldn't call a man "heroic" if he punched a small child or kicked an animal. In fact, the screenwriting book Save the Cat takes it's name from the fact you have to see a hero be kind to a weaker creature in order to establish his goodness and suggests that you need a scene where the villain "kicks a dog" to establish his cruelty.

But what is the female monomyth? There is a book here if it hasn't already been written.

Campbell himself made reference to a "feminine" monomyth or "feminine perspective" of it. I believe it's in his book GODDESSES but I'm not sure.

It may have also been in one of his interviews will Bill Moyers but again it been a few years since I last watched those.

I just used it here in an attempt to illustrate the point conceptually with as wide a brush as possible. Trying to discuss Campbell's work in a couple of paragraphs is, as you know, pretty futile.

You're right, there's probably a book there.

Interesting that you mention the concept of the male hero being chosen by God. In THE MATRIX I don't believe it ever explained why Neo was "the one". The Oracle (another archetype) had prophesied (sic) that there was a chosen one coming but I dont think chosen by who, and why him, was ever explained. WE as the audience just "fill" that in subconsciously. THAT is the power of the authenticity of the monomyth.

Edit: "A female archetype within the monomyth" probably would have been more accurate.

 

[DavidMI]

The reason this is so appealing to women is really pretty simple. It's the same story that's been told for thousands of years with a modern "skin" on it. It's the story of Cinderella, Snow White, etc.


It's the female Monomyth- a term coined by Joseph Campbell the American mythologist, writer and lecturer, best known for his work in comparative mythology and comparative religion. His work is incredibly vast but in a nutshell he found that there are common fundamental character archetypes and themes throughout history and accross ALL civilizations that resonate at a primal level. In other words it's in our DNA to respond to these stories. We can't help it. His book "The Hero's Journey" inspired George Lucas to write Star Wars.

The story of Luke Skywalker is exactly the same as, that of Neo in the Matrix, King Arthur in Camelot, Hercules in Greek mythology even Moses and Jesus in the bible. It's the story of "the chosen one" and what they must overcome (their journey) to fulfill their destiny and save everyone else. Its repeated over and over and over through every single culture because it's an innate story to our collective experience of being humans. But it's a male story.

Women are sometimes portrayed in the hero's role, (Wonder Woman, Xena Warrior Princess, etc) and have some surface appeal (yeah you go girl kick ass) but this inauthentic version never resonates as powerfully as a male version.

The true female version of the monomyth is about being saved / rescued by the "Prince Charming" archetype. 50 Shades Of Grey is nothing more than Cinderella with a corrupted "skin" to fit our warped society's sensibilities.

I recommend reading Joseph Campbell's work. It's fascinating and I've found it incredibly useful in personal development. We are each on a journey. It's up to each of us as to whether that journey is one of a hero's

I agree with the main point and I think it's incredibly insightful (and obvious, now that it's brought up!)

However, I would like to point out that Joseph Campbell's "scholarship" has been shown to be rife with fraud and exaggerations. Many people who studied the same cultures he claimed to have heard his myths and folklore from said he was exaggerating and even making up the myths from whole cloth.

I was a huge 'Star Wars' fan (and even made a short SW documentary) and that's how I came to read up fairly deeply on Campbell. There are certainly worthwhile ideas to stew over, but in my opinion his fraud and basic over-simplifying.

Furthermore, it's important to note that, even if one were to agree to all of the monomyth claims, ancient folklore and mythology came about organically. Nowadays, people retrofit stories to conform to it. It's literally become a self-fulfilling prophecy. The Wachowski's copy the "Hero's Journey" after reading Joseph Campbell, and then people site 'The Matrix' as proof of the Hero's Journey being legitimate.

And actually, I'd suspect that the Cinderella monomyth is even more potent than the "Hero's Journey", because I believe there is much more genetic variation amongst men than amongst women. Therefore, many are going to have divergent tastes, whereas 99% of women will get all tingly when watching 'Pretty Woman' or reading '50 Shades of Gray'.

 

[la_mode]

Chris Pine looks more "Christian Grey" than either Dornan or Hunnam. Would be a better movie if whoever was playing Grey actually looked the part.

Hunnam was too too rugged, Dornan looks too much like a grown-up boy scout.

 

[puckerman]

Why the hell would Chris Pine ever get involved with this? There are tons of actors and actresses who wouldn't touch this movie. Any A-list or any B-list actor doesn't have to do this movie. They have C-list actors who are hoping the movie will boost their careers. I doubt it will.