Filipina Long distance
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bmw633
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And, don’t forget the pet roosters and dogs….
Sounds like an environment with little to no introverts.
Introverts are typically the smart nerds who are needed to have a strong economy.
I think the only place introverts would go to in the Phillipines would be out in the provinces, where they would not be doing any meaningful economic activity.
By contrast, the west has an excess supply of introverts / incels / whatever you want to call them. Men trapped in front of screens, missing out on forming families and just punching their time card. Neither is a good solution.
There is definitely something wrong with the Filipino society though. They are smart, productive, and obedient enough to have a rich and prosperous society (Filipino Americans are I believe the #1 wealthiest foreign group in the US and I knew a couple in college who just worked hard, didn't party and were super good Christian guys). There is something systemic in their bureaucracy or society that is a structural flaw that is holding them back. It's still a fairly patriarchal and Christian society, which are the first places I would start looking, so I can't quite put my finger on it.
^ It’s an IQ issue.
S. America is the same. There is so much chaos from the minute the day starts they don’t even realize it. They haven’t made the connection between chaos mitigation and success/development.
Imagine telling me your kids’ school is important…then having all the cousins over to do homework at the kitchen table while the adults listen to music and drink?
Imagine trying to have a productive conversation with any of these people beyond the weather and which local shitty soccer team won that day?
You can explain it to them. They can hear your words. But, they can’t understand it to the point that it has utility for them. Even if you show them the most obvious examples they cannot understand it. There is a breathtaking disconnect between cause and effect. I’m continuously baffled and surprised everyday EVEN THOUGH I KNOW ITS COMING.
They simply cannot do it.
The kids are loud and disruptive. Dogs are barking at all hours. Car alarms. Reggaeton. Cars stopping in the middle of busy streets. Dogshit on the sidewalks. Trucks selling propane blaring their announcements at 6am.
These all appear to be small things…but when added together have a huge effect. They simply aren’t capable of fixing it. And we (USA/Western Europe) shouldn’t feel bad about it.
S. America is the same. There is so much chaos from the minute the day starts they don’t even realize it. They haven’t made the connection between chaos mitigation and success/development.
Imagine telling me your kids’ school is important…then having all the cousins over to do homework at the kitchen table while the adults listen to music and drink?
Imagine trying to have a productive conversation with any of these people beyond the weather and which local shitty soccer team won that day?
You can explain it to them. They can hear your words. But, they can’t understand it to the point that it has utility for them. Even if you show them the most obvious examples they cannot understand it. There is a breathtaking disconnect between cause and effect. I’m continuously baffled and surprised everyday EVEN THOUGH I KNOW ITS COMING.
They simply cannot do it.
The kids are loud and disruptive. Dogs are barking at all hours. Car alarms. Reggaeton. Cars stopping in the middle of busy streets. Dogshit on the sidewalks. Trucks selling propane blaring their announcements at 6am.
These all appear to be small things…but when added together have a huge effect. They simply aren’t capable of fixing it. And we (USA/Western Europe) shouldn’t feel bad about it.
She makes up for that with a great work ethic and is bright. I take her for who she is. I need her to accept me the same way.
Mate you next thing would be to say that there are honest, trustworthy and reliable.
Two more things, 1. income per country of origin in the US is measured per household. Filipinos like to live in multi-generational households thereby seriously skewing this metric
2. The Philippines is neither patriarchal nor Christian. The matriarchical aspect can easily be witnessed through the females hypergamous nature and their habit of having several kids with different fathers. The Filipino lifestyle in itself is deeply anti-Christian and consists of cheating, scamming, lying, manipulating, pre- and extra-marital sex and many other sins. All of this is not only condoned, but in many cases even encouraged. They are very good at putting up smokescreens though, due to this face thing. I've been to over 50 countries anf the Philippines (together with Cambodia and maybe the DR) ranks rock-bottom in terms of (Christian) morality
There are some born again denominations here that I respect and whose followers seem to be serious about their faith (like the Baptists and the Iglesia ni Christo) but they are small minorities. InC is a masonically inspired group in itself, for what it's worth.
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OP, I will say this. I met a Vietnamese girl some years ago. She was 20 and I was 27. She was very clingy at first, always called me, wanted to video chat, etc. I think some of these women are very desperate to leave and marry to, what they perceive as, someone who is wealthy or offers them more opportunity than they would have back home. You have to be very careful. I would suggest you take a few weeks, go there, meet her, meet her family and friends, and spend time with her. Look for red flags and green flags. You likely won't be able to bring her back without getting married.
But honestly, I wish I had that opportunity again with my Vietnamese lady. Even years later when she got married and moved to Japan, we stayed in touch as friends, she said her partner was aware and didn't mind because we were just friends. She said she really did love me and I think I allowed negative people in my life, who didn't want to see me happy, that talked me out of it. I should not have listened to them. I should have gone there, married her and brought her back to the US.
It sounds like her and her partner are happy, have kids and are enjoying life, at least from what I can see. I'm alone in my house with no one really. I pray to God to give me that opportunity again, wished upon a shooting star also, so who knows, maybe God will lay that opportunity in front of me again. Go for what makes you happy. Sure, listen to people who try to give you advice, but don't let them make the decision for you. Good luck!
But honestly, I wish I had that opportunity again with my Vietnamese lady. Even years later when she got married and moved to Japan, we stayed in touch as friends, she said her partner was aware and didn't mind because we were just friends. She said she really did love me and I think I allowed negative people in my life, who didn't want to see me happy, that talked me out of it. I should not have listened to them. I should have gone there, married her and brought her back to the US.
It sounds like her and her partner are happy, have kids and are enjoying life, at least from what I can see. I'm alone in my house with no one really. I pray to God to give me that opportunity again, wished upon a shooting star also, so who knows, maybe God will lay that opportunity in front of me again. Go for what makes you happy. Sure, listen to people who try to give you advice, but don't let them make the decision for you. Good luck!
I am sure the money thing is in the back of her head there is no question about it. But if you are a manly guy and girls like you, then she should be able to be a nice companion who appreciates you for you and as well as your money. Why not look for an immigrant girl who is already located in the USA so you can meet her in person and see how she is. I also think girls who are virgins that are high school graduates are pretty rare in general. I am not sure I would believe that part. Also, you are a white guy I assume . Why are you not looking into white girls or if you prefer the foreign girls (they are better) an European immigrant .
Remember, it is important to seek foreign women because you like them better than those avaibale in the states, not because you can't handle the American girls.
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Looks like she’s got an appetite for lapu lapu
Why are you posting photos of other people? This isn't a dating site.
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My thoughts on the photo, lovely young lady and looks fairly demure. Which is nice. I joined and then deleted Filipino Cupid just for a little bit of feeling good about myself, because the dumpster fire of American online dating considers me over the hill.... got rid of it after a month, and got back on purpose. I'm okay with that, I wasn't going to lead anyone on for months and not get over there anytime soon since I can't get in with no jib jab in the arm.
Unless you got the money and time to go meet in person and make a family then in my opinion online dating is just avoidance of things you should be working on instead. Good luck to all in this world looking for relationships.
Unless you got the money and time to go meet in person and make a family then in my opinion online dating is just avoidance of things you should be working on instead. Good luck to all in this world looking for relationships.
bmw633
Woodpecker
I met my wife on FC, but really have to vet them. Most are scammers.
My story: already had passport, one year multi-entry Visa and a plane ticket before I started even looking. We met in person 2 months after first chat, spent 8 weeks together island hopping.
You can go to Philippines without a jab, but need to quarantine in a quarantine hotel 5 days and test negative. Takes that long to get over jet lag, coming over from on US.
Screen hard bruv. Don't fall for any platitudes. Women lie all the time about bodycount etc. Vet her for a year, do your due diligence about her past and what kind of woman she really is then take a step. I see so many guys in their idealistic mindset trample over themselves to find the ideal woman, then to be finding that women are opportunistically and have no problem at all with lying, cognitive dissonance and mental gymnastics to present themselves better and more pure than they are. All I'm saying is vet carefully and take heed.
bmw633
Woodpecker
If I did not know her personally, I would agree with you. She has been helping my sick Mother-In-Law since we have been in the US.
I agree about the IQ issue. Have you heard other Asians discuss the Filipino people? There's nary a respectful word to be heard. You will less often hear whites talk this way about this dysfunctional bunch as we police each other like fools.
What a sorry state men are in that we are begging for these likes and at long-distances no less. Perhaps we should spend more time correcting our societies and less time begging for the scraps which have resulted from our doing nothing.
I find these women are too easily lauded (Filipina) and most just want your money. I have effectively ended a friendship with a buddy who has fallen for a filipina immigrant, single-mom, in Toronto. She's only with him because he's going to get a multimillion dollar inheritance (tax free in Canada) and I have told him so to protect him. As others on here have found, people just aren't grateful for valuable guidance and prefer to persevere in error. I am reminded of the quote "stubbornness and stupidity are cousins." No doubt one day my friend will see his fortunes halved, girl gone, and STILL won't appreciate what it was I had foreseen and tried to spare him from.
Looks like OP has called off this long-distance communication with this Filipina.
As a Filipino, most of the stuff about this country said by the Westerners here are accurate, and I'm not even bothered by them anymore because the Philippines is a rotten society deep inside, being masked under all the government propaganda of this country being some tropical paradise full of hospitable, good-natured people.
Aguila Negra is probably the most vocal about the ugly side of Filipino society, although his rhetoric is bordering on getting blackpilled. There definitely exist Filipinos who aren't like the low IQ, gullible, emotionally driven majority who would leech off the remittances of their expat relatives and put on a façade of welcoming foreigners while planning to con them behind their backs—but finding them will be searching for needles in a haystack; they're either part of the well-educated bourgeoisie or introverts like me living among the masses and having to adapt to dealing with people whose IQ is one standard deviation lower.
The Protestant denominations in the Philippines as well as the INC, Mormons, SDAs, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc, are the only groups that are guaranteed to live a spiritual life. Not to say that there aren't imperfections among their membership, but they're the only light and salt holding back the cultural degradation of the Philippines.
Spot on over the Filipino "intellectuals" all just parroting woke leftist garbage they see from American social media. They're pretty much all gathered in the major universities and belong to the middle- and upper-classes, as their greater amounts of purchasing power enable them to live like Western liberals, watch globohomo media like CNN and read up SJW online outlets like VICE and HuffPost. In all my years studying in what was supposedly the best university in the Philippines, there isn't an ounce of critical thinking found among these Commie pseudo-intellectuals, and they're an insufferable, toxic, hypocritical bunch. Many of my acquaintances who would post on social media ranting about capitalism or white privilege, I would see them watching on their laptops whatever bullshit American TV show is currently popular, and they're the types to go on Starbucks or other "posh" establishments. My online right-wing comrades call them "champagne socialists" for that matter.
Generally speaking, globohomo wokeism has been steadily trickling down in Filipino society for a long time now. In fact, I wanna say that the Communist movement is still a thorn on the side and many university students who fall for Marxist delusion end up joining the rebellion in the remote jungles and mountains to fight the military. I honestly pity this country as it has to deal with both Communist insurgents and radical Islamist terrorists. Many white guys here may not believe me on this matter, as they see the Philippines through the lens of "happy" Filipinos willing to accommodate and placate an American male expat.
The Philippine media and "intelligentsia" are totally in bed with globalism, and when Duterte became president in 2016 they straight up imported the culture war divide of America into the Philippine context and cast Duterte into the same role of villain as Trump, despite all the character and policy differences between the two men. And in last year's elections, the woman who ran for the presidency against Marcos Jr. became the figurehead of the progressive Left.
This is just one example of a foreign tourist blogger narrating her negative experience with Filipino food. She and her companions complained of headache and bloating in eating salty, oily pork.
indianajo.com
I don't accept poverty as an excuse for the sad state of Filipino cuisine. People who can't afford to eat much protein can still compensate with a diet of vegetables + fish + legumes + fruits + root crops. I attribute this partially to insufficient infrastructure and supply chain resulting in fresh fish and other foodstuffs not being transported inland. The Philippines has no high-speed passenger rail and freight rail, for that matter. You'd often see posts on social media showing whole truckloads of potatoes or other agricultural produce going to waste because nobody was able to transport them—while commodity prices continue to stay expensive in Metro Manila.
I'm utterly shocked on how none of the pretentious pseudo-intellectuals ever bothered proposing such a basic piece of infrastructure as freight rail to solve the country's food supply problems; the Communists were all about collectivizing farms, subsidizing labor-intensive agricultural production or banning imports. I remember Marcos Jr. himself making an ambitious proposal to reduce the price of rice to 20 pesos (about a third of a dollar) per kilogram.
Electricity is also ridiculously expensive here because of government-mandated monopoly and lack of competition, and the leftists have the gall to blame it on the free market and muh evil capitalists. It's a miracle we don't have winter here and by extension a need to worry about energy costs.
As a Filipino, most of the stuff about this country said by the Westerners here are accurate, and I'm not even bothered by them anymore because the Philippines is a rotten society deep inside, being masked under all the government propaganda of this country being some tropical paradise full of hospitable, good-natured people.
Aguila Negra is probably the most vocal about the ugly side of Filipino society, although his rhetoric is bordering on getting blackpilled. There definitely exist Filipinos who aren't like the low IQ, gullible, emotionally driven majority who would leech off the remittances of their expat relatives and put on a façade of welcoming foreigners while planning to con them behind their backs—but finding them will be searching for needles in a haystack; they're either part of the well-educated bourgeoisie or introverts like me living among the masses and having to adapt to dealing with people whose IQ is one standard deviation lower.
Trust me, Filipino Evangelicals overwhelmingly don't consider the Catholic majority as Christian, not only on doctrinal grounds (i.e. veneration of images = idolatry), but because there can hardly be any morality or piety found among the masses. Many people who are baptized as Catholics but ended up converting to Protestantism, their first time being familiar with Christ and Scripture is through a Protestant church service or a "Bible study" meeting. The Catholic festivals have almost no actual religious significance whatsoever, or at least the way that Catholic Filipinos treat them as merely community celebrations without a gram of theological understanding.
The Protestant denominations in the Philippines as well as the INC, Mormons, SDAs, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc, are the only groups that are guaranteed to live a spiritual life. Not to say that there aren't imperfections among their membership, but they're the only light and salt holding back the cultural degradation of the Philippines.
I'm not gonna claim to be that 145 IQ Pinoy, but the only people I'm able to discuss intellectual matters with are over Internet forums and social media. I used to think I was on the autism spectrum or just highly introverted, but I realized that I don't interact with the working-class folks outside for the simple reason that I share nothing in common with them to talk about.
Spot on over the Filipino "intellectuals" all just parroting woke leftist garbage they see from American social media. They're pretty much all gathered in the major universities and belong to the middle- and upper-classes, as their greater amounts of purchasing power enable them to live like Western liberals, watch globohomo media like CNN and read up SJW online outlets like VICE and HuffPost. In all my years studying in what was supposedly the best university in the Philippines, there isn't an ounce of critical thinking found among these Commie pseudo-intellectuals, and they're an insufferable, toxic, hypocritical bunch. Many of my acquaintances who would post on social media ranting about capitalism or white privilege, I would see them watching on their laptops whatever bullshit American TV show is currently popular, and they're the types to go on Starbucks or other "posh" establishments. My online right-wing comrades call them "champagne socialists" for that matter.
Generally speaking, globohomo wokeism has been steadily trickling down in Filipino society for a long time now. In fact, I wanna say that the Communist movement is still a thorn on the side and many university students who fall for Marxist delusion end up joining the rebellion in the remote jungles and mountains to fight the military. I honestly pity this country as it has to deal with both Communist insurgents and radical Islamist terrorists. Many white guys here may not believe me on this matter, as they see the Philippines through the lens of "happy" Filipinos willing to accommodate and placate an American male expat.
The Philippine media and "intelligentsia" are totally in bed with globalism, and when Duterte became president in 2016 they straight up imported the culture war divide of America into the Philippine context and cast Duterte into the same role of villain as Trump, despite all the character and policy differences between the two men. And in last year's elections, the woman who ran for the presidency against Marcos Jr. became the figurehead of the progressive Left.
I've also realized how terrible Filipino cuisine is in comparison to other parts of Asia, it's heavy in oil and sodium, and combined with large amounts of white rice + breads and pastries consumed by Filipinos, contributes to the high rates of diabetes, hypertension and even overweightness.
This is just one example of a foreign tourist blogger narrating her negative experience with Filipino food. She and her companions complained of headache and bloating in eating salty, oily pork.
Food in the Philippines: A Lingering Taste of Salty Disappointment - Indiana Jo
I assumed the Food in the Philippines would be good - it was the country's geographical birthright. However, all I tasted was salty disappointment.
indianajo.com
I don't accept poverty as an excuse for the sad state of Filipino cuisine. People who can't afford to eat much protein can still compensate with a diet of vegetables + fish + legumes + fruits + root crops. I attribute this partially to insufficient infrastructure and supply chain resulting in fresh fish and other foodstuffs not being transported inland. The Philippines has no high-speed passenger rail and freight rail, for that matter. You'd often see posts on social media showing whole truckloads of potatoes or other agricultural produce going to waste because nobody was able to transport them—while commodity prices continue to stay expensive in Metro Manila.
I'm utterly shocked on how none of the pretentious pseudo-intellectuals ever bothered proposing such a basic piece of infrastructure as freight rail to solve the country's food supply problems; the Communists were all about collectivizing farms, subsidizing labor-intensive agricultural production or banning imports. I remember Marcos Jr. himself making an ambitious proposal to reduce the price of rice to 20 pesos (about a third of a dollar) per kilogram.
Electricity is also ridiculously expensive here because of government-mandated monopoly and lack of competition, and the leftists have the gall to blame it on the free market and muh evil capitalists. It's a miracle we don't have winter here and by extension a need to worry about energy costs.