a lot of dudes think tinder women are representative of women at large (Gee I wonder why dating apps have a surplus of promiscous women)
Filipina Long distance
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As someone who wasted half of my 20s in a LDR (USA/Indonesia) ...and especially if you don't have much of an opportunity cost with respect to your career right now...I would say, you should move there in person and find a way to work online, or at least take a trip there ASAP to assess this specific situation and use the experience to inform your future decisions. Otherwise, keep your head down and focus on bettering yourself, don't get distracted.
SlickyBoy
Ostrich
Veneration of images-? Catholic doctrine does not embrace that and an honest understanding of the religion makes this evident. We do not worship statues, but evangelicals will often say things like that to discredit and draw attention away from the church.
I get the Catholic stance on this matter, but that's besides the point. What I'm saying is that there's rarely any religiosity to be found among the Roman Catholic majority in the Philippines (as others have observed in this thread) because most people are just baptized in infancy and then get told to celebrate this or that festival, or just attend Mass (TLM or Novus Ordo, doesn't matter) and sit down through the priest's homily with barely any proper catechism. Christianity just becomes a mere cultural practice, and the effects of that lack of inner piety manifest in all the ugly stuff that prevail in this society. And it all ends up further reinforcing Evangelicals' confirmation bias against Catholicism
This post started out with good advice but the last two paragraphs were a bit tough to read.
It's common to look back at forks in the road and wonder what could have been, but maybe you were acting on instinct and sensed something was off? After all, her continuing to communicate with an ex, even if platonic and even with her husband's (alleged) approval, is a bit of a red flag...
Firstly, I'd suggest you stop talking with her other than at the rarest of occasions (if you really feel the need to stay in touch).
It just sounds a bit self-punishing to keep looking at this pretty picture she's showing you of how good her life is now, especially while you're lamenting the decision and wishing you could rewind. Unproductive at best -- at worst it may be adding to your misery. Not to mention it just seems like an unnecessary invitation for trouble. What positive could you possibly be getting out of continuing to communicate?
Second, if life is so bleak, why not take action to create a similar opportunity again?
Maybe you're older and feel like the clock has run out on that option, but we all know that in these Southeast Asian countries, the potential dating pool is a lot broader even for an older man. It sounds like you at least know how to watch out for the traps a lot of foreigners new to those situations get caught up in, so that's a plus.
I'm not judging or even saying that finding another Vietnamese woman would be the answer to anything. Just hate seeing people set unnecessary limitations for themselves if they're not happy with what they've currently got going. Life ain't over yet.
joost
Kingfisher
It's a shame OP didn't give us any update.
But seeing his Monero avatar, we know he is heavily invested in crypto. He probably got shackled and lost 90% of his money.
He probably don't have a lot of experience so he went for a philipina woman. The men I've met who married one are the ones who can't get anything else.
I think he became sad for losing his savings and gave up dating. Or he got scammed for some money and is embarrassed of sharing the story.
But seeing his Monero avatar, we know he is heavily invested in crypto. He probably got shackled and lost 90% of his money.
He probably don't have a lot of experience so he went for a philipina woman. The men I've met who married one are the ones who can't get anything else.
I think he became sad for losing his savings and gave up dating. Or he got scammed for some money and is embarrassed of sharing the story.
Update Philippines 2023.officially now the women in Manila are just like the west.they are cold hearted mean and looking for chads. I've been a veteran since 2010. The changes are staggering .apps and technology has messed their brains up.i do not recommend Manila 2023 if you are looking for a wife.to top it off Manila itself is a hell hole.
Due to this thread, I did a search and this YT channel came up. Seems like a regular bloke who moved there. Wife seems alright.
Looks like a Angeles/Clark woman to me.plenty of these bar girls need a wallet to support them for life.
Huh? Some negative views on this board. Not every woman is an evil conniving golddigger succubus.
I've watched a few videos and they both seem quite happy.
I've watched a few videos and they both seem quite happy.
If they aren't golddiggers then they are usually Instagram attention seeking tattoo sinners . Independent/feminist etc .yes even the Philippines has had the toxic anti family/christian culture already induced . Being a English speaking country has accelerated this process specially in the cities . The days they would sleep with you and marry you easy are gone now it's isn't really too different from the west
Tex Cruise
Kingfisher
Funny, I just watched the same video last night.
He does say she came to to live with him in the US for 2 years before they returned to The Philippines.
He does say she came to to live with him in the US for 2 years before they returned to The Philippines.
aeroektar
Pelican
There's a lot of blackpill sentiment surrounding the Philippines, more then anywhere else. This is going to sound harsh, but it's due to very low SMV men viewing it as their final bastion, and when that fails they become extremely jaded and blsckpilled.
This guy has one of the better YouTube channels when it comes to expatriating to the Philippines, it's very to the point without any of the degeneracy. He explains in one of the videos that she comes from an upper class filipino family with a lot of resources, more then he has. I recommend anyone interested to watch his videos, he seems to have done things right.
joost
Kingfisher
I work in the maritime industry. I’ve met many men who got a Filipina girlfriend/wife.
They’re all weird (socially awkward) or low value. But in the end, they might be living a more happier life than most of us.
It’s good not dealing with fat women and going out with a young woman but I plan on having kids in the future and I want them to look like me, not Asian.
They’re all weird (socially awkward) or low value. But in the end, they might be living a more happier life than most of us.
It’s good not dealing with fat women and going out with a young woman but I plan on having kids in the future and I want them to look like me, not Asian.
I'm guessing Manila is like the NYC/LA of the U.S., the London, the Paris, the whatever of any country. So the worst, aka the most westernized women move there, and going to the major capital of any city looking for the highest quality traditional(ist) or somewhat is the worse choice one could make.
Just gonna throw in my 2 pesos as a Flip here (although there's another dude before me who got somehow banned).
I think a lot of the dysfunctional aspects of Filipino society that foreigners discover the hard way are due to these two factors:
The economy has been structured around surviving on the remittances of emigrant workers. That's how you end up with a culture of freeloading and exploitation of productive, competent citizens by their extended family members. That's how you end up with Filipinas being conditioned to basically sell themselves to foreign men as their only certain ticket out of poverty. And in order to accomplish that they have to put on their best behavior in front of foreigners. Some of them may be genuine, some are nothing but scammers.
The other factor is the history of US rule over the Philippines which made this country the most Americanized in Asia, and has resulted in the influx of the worst cultural trends from America (and especially black culture), as well as woke progressive politics unto the "intellectual" class, which gives a deadly combination with the long-standing Marxist-Leninist-Maoist tradition here.
I would personally recommend going for well-educated middle-class women as they have a higher intelligence level and less likely to view you as credit cards. The downside being, chances are that they're woke or leftist or otherwise blindly follow what the Western MSM says. Or they're supporters of the losing candidate of last year's presidential elections.
You need to realize that the masses here are ignorant of the true social trends in the West and thus wouldn't understand why many American men want to flee to Third World countries. That's why I recommend going for the sort of women who aren't driven by desperation due to poverty or aren't simple-minded and can't see beyond the immediate material benefit that a foreigner can offer.
I think a lot of the dysfunctional aspects of Filipino society that foreigners discover the hard way are due to these two factors:
The economy has been structured around surviving on the remittances of emigrant workers. That's how you end up with a culture of freeloading and exploitation of productive, competent citizens by their extended family members. That's how you end up with Filipinas being conditioned to basically sell themselves to foreign men as their only certain ticket out of poverty. And in order to accomplish that they have to put on their best behavior in front of foreigners. Some of them may be genuine, some are nothing but scammers.
The other factor is the history of US rule over the Philippines which made this country the most Americanized in Asia, and has resulted in the influx of the worst cultural trends from America (and especially black culture), as well as woke progressive politics unto the "intellectual" class, which gives a deadly combination with the long-standing Marxist-Leninist-Maoist tradition here.
They've always been like that. And it doesn't help matters either that there are plenty of foreign sex tourists who are only for the hookups (with Filipina women being more than willing to give it to them), and not many well-meaning men who want to escape Western feminism and seek a chance for a stable patriarchal family. As others have said here, there's barely any Christian morality among the masses here.
I would personally recommend going for well-educated middle-class women as they have a higher intelligence level and less likely to view you as credit cards. The downside being, chances are that they're woke or leftist or otherwise blindly follow what the Western MSM says. Or they're supporters of the losing candidate of last year's presidential elections.
Because the moment that a six-footer white man with a big frame steps out of the Manila airport, Filipinos will start making judgements about his character and intention in going to the Philippines. Since the plebs think every white guy is insanely rich, expats are bound to attract gold-diggers, scammers and entire extended families of leechers. And any Filipina who is seen with an older white man gets judgement as well.
You need to realize that the masses here are ignorant of the true social trends in the West and thus wouldn't understand why many American men want to flee to Third World countries. That's why I recommend going for the sort of women who aren't driven by desperation due to poverty or aren't simple-minded and can't see beyond the immediate material benefit that a foreigner can offer.
Good for them, however, since many of the types of Filipinas that go for foreign husbands would be considered "too ugly" by Filipino standards, i.e., they're not mestizas or Chinese-Filipino mixed. And many Filipino men nowadays are irresponsible & abusive husbands or fathers, or timid, emasculated betas who let their wives walk all over them. There might be also an IQ factor involved here