Finding a Religious Wife - Discussion

ThriceLazarus

 
Banned
@Distant Light

I’ve always respected your posts, you have a very unique way of looking at Game and human social interaction that - while completely different from my autistic own - has been eye opening. It’s understandable that Roosh’s choice has set you on edge.

Honestly, I believe your perspective on what Game is - not to put words in your mouth, but that whole idea of self growth and expansion of consciousness through exposure to different energetic frequencies - is something that should be considered going forward. I know I will, I haven’t even started the reps (At about 20 approaches in the last year/year and a half) and I’m going to need all the help I can get.

DL said:
Set the example...
1...Devout yourself to your god
2...Never fap again
3...Go MGTOW, never think about women again and let god do his magic
4...If god brings a girl, lead with god 1st & screen hard

You’re kinda taking the piss, but isn’t that just Game? I mean, it echoes the advice of, “Find your purpose and focus.” Honestly, I think it’s really good advice - however I don’t believe most men should devote themselves to The LORD. Following the Twin Commandments is enough - that is, “Be deeply appreciative of everything in your life (Though everyone loves The LORD in their own way) and don’t be a cunt.”

So.

1. Devote yourself to your mission
2. No Fap
3. Put your mission first
4. Let bitches come to you. Choosing signals and boundaries.

That’s some AMS shit right there.
 

SW15

Sparrow
If a guy wants to find a religious wife, he has to be as religious as she is in most cases. A lot of men have been chasing pre-marital sex. A lot of men who are passionate about chasing pre-marital sex are not actively practicing a religion. The Millennial generation, the current cohort of 20/30 somethings, are probably the least religious generation ever.

Since I have not been practicing religion since turning 18, I do not have deep roots within any religious community. That would not help my cause in finding a religious wife.
 

Distant Light

Kingfisher
Gold Member
@ThriceLazarus I respect rooshv choice totally fine...

You are right the turn forum will take CAN with RIGHT PEOPLE...However, like a slayer who lived a joyous life or fred becky who had no wife nor kids climbing his whole life till death of 84...

It is all outliers...

While I view redpill as extreme the swing in other direction is another extreme. Most extreme is dogmatic unless someone meticulously explored every step of the way along the edge.

What I learnt in monogamy is "I am not dogmatic, I am merely an outlier"

I can easily be dirtbag becky dying at 84 exploring different realms within earth. I find it ideal due to all the potential growth. Most people will defy me whether it be parents in my late teens or ex gf...Do you know how shit my life would've been if I listened? I listened to community dudes bragging how dope it was to have a gf...It SUCKS PERIOD. Unless you are waiting to die and enjoy melodrama it is a waste & doesn't promote long lasting relationships.

That isn't a BELIEF any human who been in monogamy knows it is dysfunctional YET people go from one relationship to the next.

Yes, I was taking the piss with hint of truth if someone is a follower of THE LORD...

I have weird relationship as my elders in family were religious and since 3-4 was questioning existence...Was told to shut up...Lucid Dreams at 5, wierd experiences...Rediscovered around 14 got into OBEs, remote viewing, meditation, etc...CHANGED ME DRASTICALLY...Consciousness, Quantum Theory and here I am "virtual reality" viewpoint due to exploration. (I far fetched perspective for most)

Like @SW15 said is true BE IT and be willing to never have a gf if you can't find women in alignment which will be tough culturally. However, most religious people are lying to themselves...

Stereotype of little boys...Rich arabs doing P4P & drinking in clubs...Heck TEMP MARRIAGE to bend the laws, just to have sex.

Humans biggest asset is also their biggest downfall...We are animals, one of the few who evolved to recreational sex...Bonobo monkeys our closest species PEACEFUL...They have sex for social bonding, women RULE as they should they are more emotionally aware.

I'm sure there are many madams in history who created amazing paradises in their designated brothels. When I had my own social circle it was peaceful, dudes were chill as we all had sex, we could focus on fun, women felt safe to express FEMALE SEXUALITY as there was no control or oppression of men...

Women can be a CONSCIOUSNESS not valued for their objectification.

I loved hanging with women...My ex killed my social life. I'd never seen such social BS and missed years of just having fun. Ex was too used to regular player types...

Due to how my life was I was never moved nor influenced by sex availability because like bonobos SEX IS ALWAYS THERE there is no point in trying to control or manipulate things and your choices are authentic to consciousness as your not swayed by your loins.

You know how many men used to shit on me for hanging in LGBT scene. Why? They assume "no sex" but when sex is always around due to your lifestyle NOW you get to go party hearing dope ass music, in a realm where sexuality isn't oppressed and people can just express themselves without judgment.

It says alot that gays & lesbians can play and expess their sexuality with far more passion than straight people. A chick will hide her sexuality & act asexual due to cultural norms.

It comesback to a core value...Did you enter this reality to "look good & gain accolades" or ACTUALLY LIVE because were all gonna die & all be forgotten. No one is talking about the man in 1600s who did a good deed or made an impact that lead to human race continuing on...

My neighbor committed suicide last year, they cleaned up his body and life went on. That is the faith of everyone an end of this experience packet. Culturally we view death as a horrible metaphor as people are attached to their ego. However, many things live & die. Ideas, systems, cultures, viewpoints live and die..

You can't transform without experiencing death. I was nothing like my teens as an adult and monogamy scarred me as I was on a roll of continually death transformation and it was halted in favor of drama. You have less freedom to choice your growth realms when in a war torn environment. Monogamy is a psychological war, no love just fears ego etc

People get sick & die on average due to their neurobiology systems decaying...There is no growth no neurogenesis no neuroplasticity just people who are constrained to simple realms because they never grew beyond their culture and worldview.

If you ask old people to talk about regrets or life trajectory many lacked awareness of choice & growth.
 

EndsExpect

Kingfisher
SW15 said:
If a guy wants to find a religious wife, he has to be as religious as she is in most cases. A lot of men have been chasing pre-marital sex. A lot of men who are passionate about chasing pre-marital sex are not actively practicing a religion. The Millennial generation, the current cohort of 20/30 somethings, are probably the least religious generation ever.
Since I have not been practicing religion since turning 18, I do not have deep roots within any religious community. That would not help my cause in finding a religious wife.

If the path you walk is not satisfying, change your direction.

I've put a lot of thought into the meaning of RVF, and what's binds such disparate men from all strata of society together in an anonymous but often powerful way. In the beginning I thought it was the pursuit of pussy, which is a powerful draw... and yet that didn't explain many of the men here. Then I thought it was red pill politics, which stand in stark contrast to our indoctrinated beliefs. However, I believe the truth is that we are each of us in search of meaning with the belief that we can change our fates. The belief that we can take actions that will change our lives for the better, and by sharing our thoughts and feelings on this with other we can inspire and encourage not just those of like mind, but ourselves in the process.
 

EndsExpect

Kingfisher
Distant Light said:
I have weird relationship as my elders in family were religious and since 3-4 was questioning existence...Was told to shut up...Lucid Dreams at 5, wierd experiences...Rediscovered around 14 got into OBEs, remote viewing, meditation, etc...CHANGED ME DRASTICALLY...Consciousness, Quantum Theory and here I am "virtual reality" viewpoint due to exploration. (I far fetched perspective for most)

Like @SW15 said is true BE IT and be willing to never have a gf if you can't find women in alignment which will be tough culturally. However, most religious people are lying to themselves...

Humans biggest asset is also their biggest downfall...We are animals, one of the few who evolved to recreational sex...Bonobo monkeys our closest species PEACEFUL...They have sex for social bonding, women RULE as they should they are more emotionally aware.

If you ask old people to talk about regrets or life trajectory many lacked awareness of choice & growth.

I've had enough hippie bullshit to last a lifetime. I have a natural distaste for half coherent ramblings... even where I agree with it.

Monkeys are animals, we are humans. Can you not see the difference? Each generation lives and dies the same as the last, with no major change... no movement forward. They live to live and nothing else.

As humans we have been granted the ability to control our instincts, unlike monkeys.

It's a choice. Be an animal or be a human. You may enjoy being an animal, but do not denigrate those of us who choose to be human.
 

StrikeBack

Ostrich
Gold Member
Distant Light, with all due respect, just because you had a bad relationship doesn't mean that we all suffer from the same.

Also, here's why men are interested in finding a good wife: legacy, meaning children, and grandchildren etc. their family line. It's a concept that the bonobos do not understand, but men do.
 

Geomann180

Ostrich
Catholic
Gold Member
What are you doing in this thread Distant Light?

You seem to have a habit of dropping in on wife hunting threads to tell people that they're dumb for wanting monogamy.

G
 

Distant Light

Kingfisher
Gold Member
@Endsexpect hahaha @hippie BS, as I always say...

Experience > Belief,/Theory/Idealism

Sorry to say monogamy is "no movement" forward beyond self-sacrifice for KIDS. However, tons of IN NEED KIDS who need adopting so that aspect is void.

Humans been having issues since hunters & gatherer days. Power, Control, Manipulation...We have evolved into data collectors for sake of marketing. All most everything revolves around cutting corners, exploitation & keeping humans deluded with entertainment & trinkets...

It isn't moving forward for things beyond scope of this thread...

Bonobos = Peaceful & higher quality than average human

@Strikeback & Geoman as you just stated the same ole EGO purposes "legacy". What legacy? How do you know your family tree is "solid". One ottoman ruler had 1,000+ kids...Some UK royalty had 11 illegitimate kids...Have you heard of the churches in spain where 300k+ newborns were displaced sent to churches for orphanage?

It is this selfish " seperation" of humans that spawn such dysfunction...

My "relationship" would've been IDEAL for the typical redpill, from society standpoint I had the perfect relationship.. A self-deluded fantasy bubble of 2. However I PERSONALLY value consciousness growth over 2 people in deep love alienated & waiting to die all to say "I have a loving wife & family". It is no wonder people tolerate the arguing, melodrama & stress because they don't know what true peace happiness & joy is.

Thing is, prior to experience I had no one mentioning BE SKEPTICAL and warn me. Just a bunch of deluded people lying. If it were all FUNCTIONAL every pro-monogamous person would have 1-2 relationships and reach IDEAL. It is hilarious people are serial daters.

Look at history, look at older men...Broken men who settled with the backwards rationalization of " family". Men who are lying to themselves. Men who have regressed, stuck in a mental rut for decades and at the gates of death as there is little room to grow anymore.

Fact is humans in general are low quality. I wouldn't be so blunt if I hadn't experienced happiness, joy & peace. If I ever truly feel need for "kids" I know there are millions of orphans who need direction...They are already here stuck in "the BS"

While I may be extreme, I understand some have affinity for "monogamy". Life for them can be a 24/7 hanging out bliss till death. Is what it is...

However, it is funny as THIS is some hippie shit, we see it in he world everyday. People in monogamy living a lie. Type in sex in google section and look how much dysfunction is going on...

P.S...Show me 1 pure loving monogamous relationship that is void of arguing, melodrama, controlling, manipulation...And transcended both parties into unconditional love, happiness, peace & joy with this reality and those around them.

P.S.S...Although yes earlier in such topics was sort of trolling...I am being 100% GENUINE. If I am still alive 2/5/10/15 years from now PLEASE email me your success story in monogamy where there is 0 arguing, melodrama, social stress. Redpill is already on a bad footing due to innate controlling & manipulation. Out of respect for ex I never can go into details BUT she preferred the redpill man way. A fast track to isolation, stagnation and no life outside the delusionary bubble...I'll stick to the so called hippie BS as past experiences yielded happiness peace joy & immense growth.
 

StrikeBack

Ostrich
Gold Member
Distant Light, there is nothing Red Pill about letting your family line and your genes come to an end, and raising other people's kids even as heart warming as in the orphan adoption case. As you like to make the case that we are like animals, well animals have survival and reproduction as their #1 missions in life. If you are not reproducing, you are not Red Pill. The alpha in the animal pack isn't the one dying with no offsprings, the omega is. Roissy/Heartiste would often say something like "the God of biomechanics does not care about your hamster". Whether you believe in God, or nature, or biology, or Red Pill philosphy, you are the ultimate loser in this game of life if you do not have children and your genes end with you.

You are clearly struggling for meaning in your life, you are not growing despite what you are trying to tell yourself. You are delusional if you think every man who has built and led a successful family is broken and lying to himself. Otherwise, I don't see why you are jumping into this thread where it clearly does not suit your desired lifestyle, and there is nobody here condemning it either.
 

MichaelWitcoff

Hummingbird
Orthodox
The real answer, and the one that many don't want to hear, is that marriage isn't for everyone and just because you want a wife doesn't mean it's the path for you. St. Paul specifically says he would prefer if everyone could be celibate like he is, but makes the concession that if you can't control your lust, then it's better to have sex within a marriage than to be a fornicator or adulterer. He further writes that if you're unmarried when you devote your life to God, you should not seek a wife but remain as you are.

He gives the same exhortation to women as he does to men - basically "whatever you are, stay that way." This is one of the many passages of the Scriptures that Protestants like to pretend doesn't exist, because the culture of their churches tends to be very marriage-and-family focused and they have absolutely zero emphasis on monasticism / asceticism. In fact they have zero monasticism, period, and would probably even argue that it's wrong or bad somehow.

All this stuff about "but the monkeys do this or that" is just a rationalization to be enslaved to one's basest instincts without putting the work in to overcome the animal in us to become fully human (or at least, MORE fully human). It's an anti-civilization argument, since as Freud said (and forgive me for quoting him), "It is impossible to overestimate the degree to which civilization is built on the renunciation of instinct." And there's an irony in "polyamorous / PUA guys" who whine that women's destructive instincts are tearing our society apart, when they're engaging in the exact same behavior.

To make a long story short, a spouse and family is in God's plan for some people and not for others. If you really put your trust in God to lead you down the path that's best for you, give up your own design and humbly say "Thy will be done." Whether His will for you is marriage or consecrated celibacy, it will benefit you far more in the long run - literally for eternity - to give up your own desires to the greatest extent that you're capable of doing so, and put your life in His hands instead. I know people don't want to hear this answer, but read the Scriptures and Church Fathers and you will see that it's the one most in line with ancient Christian thinking. Cheers
 

StrikeBack

Ostrich
Gold Member
Unless you're an asexual like St Paul, the rest (99.99999%) of us who have a sex drive should marry and make babies, as God commands. Yes it is in His plan for nearly all of us, not "some", with very few exceptions. The modern Churchians keep twisting this to sound like God gives them a "gift of singleness" when it's simply due to their poor social skills and low attractiveness (self sabotage) that they are failing to attract a mate. If you find the opposite sex attractive still, that is God telling you that marriage and children are on the card for you. He designed you that way for a reason.

Also, Paul said "burn with passion", that is not lust. Lust is desiring someone else's spouse. The Bible is very specific on sexual sins, with clear cut examples given for each of them. "Passion equals lust" is yet another lie that the anti-sex Churchians came up with to justify why their marriage sex life is horrible. God gives us sexual passion so we may marry and be fruitful, and marriage gives the perfect moral context for us to exercise our passion.
 
StrikeBack said:
Also, Paul said "burn with passion", that is not lust. Lust is desiring someone else's spouse. The Bible is very specific on sexual sins, with clear cut examples given for each of them. "Passion equals lust" is yet another lie that the anti-sex Churchians came up with to justify why their marriage sex life is horrible. God gives us sexual passion so we may marry and be fruitful, and marriage gives the perfect moral context for us to exercise our passion.

So is it ok to notice that a woman looks good and look at her lustfully but without any intention of trying to have sex with her? Is it ok to go out of your way to spend time noticing? I don't want to criticize Jesus but maybe he could have made himself clearer. Then again what he said was translated into other languages, so maybe it was clear, who knows.
 

Shifty

Sparrow
MichaelWitcoff said:
The real answer, and the one that many don't want to hear, is that marriage isn't for everyone and just because you want a wife doesn't mean it's the path for you. St. Paul specifically says he would prefer if everyone could be celibate like he is, but makes the concession that if you can't control your lust, then it's better to have sex within a marriage than to be a fornicator or adulterer. He further writes that if you're unmarried when you devote your life to God, you should not seek a wife but remain as you are.

He gives the same exhortation to women as he does to men - basically "whatever you are, stay that way." This is one of the many passages of the Scriptures that Protestants like to pretend doesn't exist, because the culture of their churches tends to be very marriage-and-family focused and they have absolutely zero emphasis on monasticism / asceticism. In fact they have zero monasticism, period, and would probably even argue that it's wrong or bad somehow.

All this stuff about "but the monkeys do this or that" is just a rationalization to be enslaved to one's basest instincts without putting the work in to overcome the animal in us to become fully human (or at least, MORE fully human). It's an anti-civilization argument, since as Freud said (and forgive me for quoting him), "It is impossible to overestimate the degree to which civilization is built on the renunciation of instinct." And there's an irony in "polyamorous / PUA guys" who whine that women's destructive instincts are tearing our society apart, when they're engaging in the exact same behavior.

To make a long story short, a spouse and family is in God's plan for some people and not for others. If you really put your trust in God to lead you down the path that's best for you, give up your own design and humbly say "Thy will be done." Whether His will for you is marriage or consecrated celibacy, it will benefit you far more in the long run - literally for eternity - to give up your own desires to the greatest extent that you're capable of doing so, and put your life in His hands instead. I know people don't want to hear this answer, but read the Scriptures and Church Fathers and you will see that it's the one most in line with ancient Christian thinking. Cheers

Never expected this forum to advocate inceldom. (In incel forums they have the "voluntary" ones too).
 

MichaelWitcoff

Hummingbird
Orthodox
StrikeBack said:
Unless you're an asexual like St Paul, the rest (99.99999%) of us who have a sex drive should marry and make babies, as God commands. Yes it is in His plan for nearly all of us, not "some", with very few exceptions. The modern Churchians keep twisting this to sound like God gives them a "gift of singleness" when it's simply due to their poor social skills and low attractiveness (self sabotage) that they are failing to attract a mate. If you find the opposite sex attractive still, that is God telling you that marriage and children are on the card for you. He designed you that way for a reason.

Also, Paul said "burn with passion", that is not lust. Lust is desiring someone else's spouse. The Bible is very specific on sexual sins, with clear cut examples given for each of them. "Passion equals lust" is yet another lie that the anti-sex Churchians came up with to justify why their marriage sex life is horrible. God gives us sexual passion so we may marry and be fruitful, and marriage gives the perfect moral context for us to exercise our passion.

For the Orthodox, a man's vocation (marriage or celibacy) is not something to be taken lightly, but discerned carefully and prayerfully together with his priest and/or spiritual father (if his spiritual father isn't his parish priest). I don't think your logic here plays out, though; it sounds like saying "I desire a Lamborghini and therefore God's will for me is to attain wealth." One of the reasons I left the world of Protestantism behind was specifically because "God's will" to most Protestants is simply "whatever they wanted to do anyway." But our emotions are tricky, and there's a reason the Scriptures warn that we are "led away by our own desires."

To your second point, the Bible is not actually all that clear on what constitutes sexual sin besides adultery and sex outside of marriage in general. For example, the Bible says nothing about anal sex within marriage - something Orthodoxy very strictly calls sin, but which I've heard Protestants say is perfectly fine. It also says nothing about watching pornography or masturbating - both sins to every Orthodox, but only to some Protestants (depending on which denomination you're in and who you ask).

This is why we don't go by "sola Scriptura:" there are a lot of things not explicitly written in the Scriptures, but are contained in other ancient Church documents and/or Ecumenical Councils and/or local councils and/or canons. All these things together are what guide our faith, not just our desires or personal interpretation of Bible passages. This is how we can help kill off the sins of pride and idolatry (of ourselves and our own opinions), by humbly submitting to what the Church has always taught on these and many other topics.

To your final point, saying "God gives us sexual passions" is theologically and anthropologically incorrect. Before the Fall there was neither sex nor the desire for sex; these things are the result of the Fall and of the entrance of sin and death into the world. There's nothing wrong with normal sex within the context of marriage, which is ideally about a lot more than just sex, but we have to be careful which of our feelings we attribute to God when Christ Himself - our ultimate role model - didn't see any need to partake of it Himself.
 

MichaelWitcoff

Hummingbird
Orthodox
Shifty said:
MichaelWitcoff said:
The real answer, and the one that many don't want to hear, is that marriage isn't for everyone and just because you want a wife doesn't mean it's the path for you. St. Paul specifically says he would prefer if everyone could be celibate like he is, but makes the concession that if you can't control your lust, then it's better to have sex within a marriage than to be a fornicator or adulterer. He further writes that if you're unmarried when you devote your life to God, you should not seek a wife but remain as you are.

He gives the same exhortation to women as he does to men - basically "whatever you are, stay that way." This is one of the many passages of the Scriptures that Protestants like to pretend doesn't exist, because the culture of their churches tends to be very marriage-and-family focused and they have absolutely zero emphasis on monasticism / asceticism. In fact they have zero monasticism, period, and would probably even argue that it's wrong or bad somehow.

All this stuff about "but the monkeys do this or that" is just a rationalization to be enslaved to one's basest instincts without putting the work in to overcome the animal in us to become fully human (or at least, MORE fully human). It's an anti-civilization argument, since as Freud said (and forgive me for quoting him), "It is impossible to overestimate the degree to which civilization is built on the renunciation of instinct." And there's an irony in "polyamorous / PUA guys" who whine that women's destructive instincts are tearing our society apart, when they're engaging in the exact same behavior.

To make a long story short, a spouse and family is in God's plan for some people and not for others. If you really put your trust in God to lead you down the path that's best for you, give up your own design and humbly say "Thy will be done." Whether His will for you is marriage or consecrated celibacy, it will benefit you far more in the long run - literally for eternity - to give up your own desires to the greatest extent that you're capable of doing so, and put your life in His hands instead. I know people don't want to hear this answer, but read the Scriptures and Church Fathers and you will see that it's the one most in line with ancient Christian thinking. Cheers

Never expected this forum to advocate inceldom. (In incel forums they have the "voluntary" ones too).

I am not "advocating inceldom." I am advocating for Christians to work on overcoming their lust, so as not to be enslaved by it. Even for those who are married, being enslaved to lust is not a good thing (nor does it magically go away when you're pronounced husband and wife).

Christianity is hard, which is why most people in the modern world don't try it. They want a McDonald's life: cheap, fast, and easy. Ultimately of course, just like McDonald's, the cheap fast and easy route leads to sickness and death.

I am advocating "Say no to McDonald's and pick up your cross!"
 

Shifty

Sparrow
How do you "overcome lust"?

Every healthy male with normal testosterone levels needs sexual release sooner or later.

If you choose repression instead of dealing with it in a healthy way then it's going to be a coin toss on what manias they develop.
 

MichaelWitcoff

Hummingbird
Orthodox
Shifty said:
How do you "overcome lust"?

Every healthy male with normal testosterone levels needs sexual release sooner or later.

If you choose repression instead of dealing with it in a healthy way then it's going to be a coin toss on what manias they develop.

On our own, and by our own power, we are capable of basically nothing like this. As Lorenzo Scupoli so eloquently put it..."If you rely on yourself in the spiritual warfare, you will not be able to resist even the smallest attack of the enemy." I completely agree that trying to "repress" urges leads to problems, but that isn't quite the way to do it (this is where Freud and his followers completely failed, amongst many other areas - they saw it as a battle that people were trying to do on their own, and instead of saying "you need God for this" they went in the opposite direction and said "it's not possible to repress so you should just 'be liberated' instead").

St. Porphyrios gave more actionable advice, writing "Do not fight to expel the darkness from the chamber of your soul. Instead open a tiny aperture for light to enter and the darkness will disappear."

Not that I'm perfect or anywhere close to it (or likely ever will be), but what progress I've been able to make over the last few years has followed this kind of wisdom. You must become humble enough to recognize how powerless you are to overcome the passions on your own, constantly praying and asking God for help and to send His angels to your side. What is impossible for us is effortless for Him, but we can only reap the benefits of this dynamic once we've really come face-to-face with our own weakness (and His love and power by comparison).

I believe in one of my last articles for Return of Kings, the one about good resources for Christian men, I mentioned the book "Victory In The Unseen Warfare." That's the book the Scupoli quote above is from (in the Father Jack Sparks translation/edition), and the entire three-book "Unseen Warfare" series is phenomenal. I can't recommend it enough.
 

FullThrottleTX

 
Banned
SW15 said:
If a guy wants to find a religious wife, he has to be as religious as she is in most cases. A lot of men have been chasing pre-marital sex. A lot of men who are passionate about chasing pre-marital sex are not actively practicing a religion. The Millennial generation, the current cohort of 20/30 somethings, are probably the least religious generation ever.

Since I have not been practicing religion since turning 18, I do not have deep roots within any religious community. That would not help my cause in finding a religious wife.

Eventually, when I get the desire to settle down, the fact that I have struggled to find god will make me more interesting to the Christian chicks. Being born Christian and always devout like a choir boy is not an interesting story to tell...

Part of the reason I moved to Dallas was I was pretty put off by the soullessness in NYC. It rubbed me the wrong way that all the chicks there seemed so unhappy and dead inside. First thing I did in Dallas was go to Church...

Especially before my past relationship, I had the opportunity to date a few Christian girls and tell them that story and it resonated very well. At the time I wasn't ready to commit myself to being fully Christian and all the machinations and self-denial that goes with it... I eventually met another girl who was decidedly Athiest, a nice girl, I didn't need to adapt much as an East Coast guy, but not someone who made me want to have babies/married...

As an aside, Dallas and places like it: economically thriving, yuppy-dense cities with a lot of transplants, jobs, and rich people are probably not good places to find a decent wife. Maybe that's obvious, but I don't think it's been said. Sure, a lot of Dallas chicks claim to be Christian (it's a religious town), but they're also feminist at the same time with their high powered careers and yuppy lifestyles... Don't move to a place just for work, that's the lesson. Become more location independent.
 

bucky

Hummingbird
Other Christian
FullThrottleTX said:
SW15 said:
If a guy wants to find a religious wife, he has to be as religious as she is in most cases. A lot of men have been chasing pre-marital sex. A lot of men who are passionate about chasing pre-marital sex are not actively practicing a religion. The Millennial generation, the current cohort of 20/30 somethings, are probably the least religious generation ever.

Since I have not been practicing religion since turning 18, I do not have deep roots within any religious community. That would not help my cause in finding a religious wife.

Eventually, when I get the desire to settle down, the fact that I have struggled to find god will make me more interesting to the Christian chicks. Being born Christian and always devout like a choir boy is not an interesting story to tell...

Part of the reason I moved to Dallas was I was pretty put off by the soullessness in NYC. It rubbed me the wrong way that all the chicks there seemed so unhappy and dead inside. First thing I did in Dallas was go to Church...

Especially before my past relationship, I had the opportunity to date a few Christian girls and tell them that story and it resonated very well. At the time I wasn't ready to commit myself to being fully Christian and all the machinations and self-denial that goes with it... I eventually met another girl who was decidedly Athiest, a nice girl, I didn't need to adapt much as an East Coast guy, but not someone who made me want to have babies/married...

As an aside, Dallas and places like it: economically thriving, yuppy-dense cities with a lot of transplants, jobs, and rich people are probably not good places to find a decent wife. Maybe that's obvious, but I don't think it's been said. Sure, a lot of Dallas chicks claim to be Christian (it's a religious town), but they're also feminist at the same time with their high powered careers and yuppy lifestyles... Don't move to a place just for work, that's the lesson. Become more location independent.

Hey though, at least you're in Texas. Might be the best place to meet women in the US, in my experience. Generally a cool state that I enjoy a lot. Maybe some looking outside of Dallas/Ft. Worth might be in order.
 

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Ostrich
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I think it's preferable to find a woman who will rely on and have her relation to God (the masculine) through your guidance (the masculine).

I've chatted with very religious girls in the Philippines who think they know all the answers already and are looking for you to subscribe/agree with them. For me, that's not a good fit.

Sometimes a religious woman (a bad one) will use the priest as a way of castrating your masculinity. They will ignore you and deify the priest.
 
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