Finding nicer/happier women

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Gold Member
Had a quick glance through the thread yet didn't catch it if already mentioned.

Yet I would say one key factor that goes into a woman being more feminine & demure - married parents.

If a chick is from a 'broken home', in general, I'd say there is a chance of greater difficulty in being involved with those broken home chicks.
Whether due to abusive fathers, absentee fathers or weak fathers.

Seems a lack of 'daddy issues' is a key factor in finding a stable & demure gal.
 

FullThrottleTX

Woodpecker
Had a quick glance through the thread yet didn't catch it if already mentioned.

Yet I would say one key factor that goes into a woman being more feminine & demure - married parents.

If a chick is from a 'broken home', in general, I'd say there is a chance of greater difficulty in being involved with those broken home chicks.
Whether due to abusive fathers, absentee fathers or weak fathers.

Seems a lack of 'daddy issues' is a key factor in finding a stable & demure gal.

I'd rather have a broken home chick personally.
The worst kind of chicks for me are hyper privileged, parents gave them everything, perfect family with a mother and father. Can't relate. I was a teen runaway from a working class, single mom kind of home in a rust belt city.

You want someone whose real, who has struggled.
My sister, I hold in high regard, because she's built a stable family with her high school sweetheart despite being from a shit background. She has some grit.

Daddy issues? I have mommy and daddy issues. Yet, I'm better off than a lot of people frankly.
 

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Gold Member
I'd rather have a broken home chick personally.
The worst kind of chicks for me are hyper privileged, parents gave them everything, perfect family with a mother and father. Can't relate. I was a teen runaway from a working class, single mom kind of home in a rust belt city.

You want someone whose real, who has struggled.
My sister, I hold in high regard, because she's built a stable family with her high school sweetheart despite being from a shit background. She has some grit.

Daddy issues? I have mommy and daddy issues. Yet, I'm better off than a lot of people frankly.

Your experience perhaps, yet not mine.
I come from a "broken home" myself, as do my sisters.

Yet when it comes to genuine femininity & demureness. The gals I've dealt with, have parents who are still married.
The girls who as I say, had / have absentee or abusive fathers... not so much...
 

FullThrottleTX

Woodpecker
Your experience perhaps, yet not mine.
I come from a "broken home" myself, as do my sisters.

Yet when it comes to genuine femininity & demureness. The gals I've dealt with, have parents who are still married.
The girls who as I say, had / have absentee or abusive fathers... not so much...

I'm a healer.
I enjoy a tough case.
I don't want a girl to view me as their pitbull from an animal shelter, I'd rather it be the other way around.
 
Here in the less developed parts of Europe it is a bit blurrier than feminine/careerist dichotomy like you have it in the US.

A lot of Balkan (Southeastern European) women want both to work and have kids and they usually succeed in both. They give up on some other whims such as holidays or expensive toys for a while. They also don't want to become CEOs but enjoy the extra income for the family budget.

I think a lot of sensible Russians and Ukrainians are also like that. They like money, but they see it as means more than an end. But the marriage unit has to be strong for this to work out. Kids are still seen as much more important than work. The man is meant to pay for more things but not everything. The starkest contrast is that single women are rightly seen as failures and often mocked about it. If not mocked outright they get asked a lot "why don't you have children yet"?

Where am I going with this? The big cities in EE are in no way traditional, but the women end up both emancipated and family oriented. They don`t resent the men. The sexes are not at war, people are roasting themselves at individual level. :) It is also surprising how generous the maternity leave is in the former communist and socialist satellites, in terms of duration. My female boss got 2 full years for her second child I think.

The childless women here are usually these endangered species "alpha females", extremely attractive and looking for Dubai lifestyle without the Sheikhs. They hang out with local mafia and are attracted to power and domination in the primitive sense. A bit dumb most of them, but it is childlessness for different reasons.

I think the Balkans situation would be a transition state if that lifestyle is influenced by Globohomo. Overtime it will become a more harsh dichotomy like in the USA.
 

Maecenas

Sparrow
Plenty of us settled down and married Colombian women, me included. We get breakfast every morning, dinner cooked every night, our clothes sewed from scratch, our boots unlaced and taken off after a long days work, and blowjobs whenever we want.

What's your emotional or spiritual connection with your wife like? Do you have kids? What's your career been like, have you grown in it and are you happy with it / proud of it? Curious to put more of a face to what you've said
 

RoadKill

Sparrow
Where does one find nice/happy women?


Pick two, you can't have all three.

Women don't feel alive unless there's a crisis. If everything is going well, it's just the calm before the storm. They will invent crisis if their world is too comfortable. They get bored with comfort and no drama.

Out of all the Latin countries I went to the one I thought that would be easiest to find a sweet, submissive and trustworthy wife is Brazil. But I wonder if i didn't give colombia a fair shot

Brazilians are passionate and beautiful. They are also dramatic, psychotic and bat-shit crazy! I'm married to a Brazilian; a mistake I hope nobody else here ever makes. One of my best friends is Brazilian and his ex-wife was bat-shit crazy too. He almost bought me a shirt that read "I'm married to a Brazilian; you can't scare me" but he was afraid of my wife's reaction.

RK
 

Bitter End

Woodpecker
Orthodox
I think the Balkans situation would be a transition state if that lifestyle is influenced by Globohomo. Overtime it will become a more harsh dichotomy like in the USA.
Yes, many people have made this prediction and we are wary of the dangers. While the big cities in the Central-Eastern part of EU are already seeing LGBQWERTY support increase, I think it will ultimately be social media and instagram vanity that will be the main harm for our areas. The kids don't realize that it is just for show.

At least the dating apps are not very appreciated by and large. In my country we benefit from warm climate and big social circles. Overall, it is the Baltic states that seem the most politically aware and where white nationalist meetings are not off limits. In the Balkans we are too friendly with different ethnicities if they put up with the hardships and take the harsh jokes.
 
I'd rather have a broken home chick personally.
The worst kind of chicks for me are hyper privileged, parents gave them everything, perfect family with a mother and father. Can't relate. I was a teen runaway from a working class, single mom kind of home in a rust belt city.

You want someone whose real, who has struggled.
My sister, I hold in high regard, because she's built a stable family with her high school sweetheart despite being from a shit background. She has some grit.

Daddy issues? I have mommy and daddy issues. Yet, I'm better off than a lot of people frankly.

It would seem like grit and perseverance would be virtues found in a woman who has gone through tough times with her family upbringing but...I think it sounds good in theory but not so much in practice—yes, struggles can build virtues but they can scar too. My first wife went through a lot of trauma as a child and it scarred her too much. She was really screwed up. For most of the friends I have which have gone through a divorce, it was their wives who left them and they all came from shitty backgrounds.

FullThrottle, you can't throw the baby out with the bathwater on this one. A girl who is entitled can be entitled whether she is from a broken home or not. But a girl who comes from a two-parent household with her relationship with both parents intact, is going to fare much better in life than a woman from a broken home or daddy issues.

Also, you are giving implicit support to single moms because you were raised by a single mom. Bro, seriously? Is that what you really advocate? You stand in contempt of families where both parents are present and create a false perception of parents giving their children everything and feigning perfection. You sound bitter, though. Maybe because you didn't have both parents present in your life, you stand in harsh judgment of those that do. But don't do that, man. I get it. I didn't come from that background either. I felt inferior in relationships where the girl I was with did. But that was my issue, not hers. You are encouraging other young men on this forum to choose to be with a woman who comes from a broken home simply because you did and you think women that come from two-parent families are more broken than ones who didn't. That's absurd. It defies logic and reason. I know that you didn't enjoy growing up without a dad together in the same house as your mom. If you say otherwise, you are lying to yourself and I wouldn't want that for you.

To anyone reading this post, know that any woman who has both parents together and was raised to be respectful and reasonable will fare much better in a relationship with you than a woman from a broken home. Because in your relationship, to the extent possible that you deal with issues in your relationship created solely by the both of you, is far less burdensome than to deal with relationship issues from the past. In other words, the less baggage you bring into a relationship the better it will be.
 

FullThrottleTX

Woodpecker
Also, you are giving implicit support to single moms because you were raised by a single mom. Bro, seriously? Is that what you really advocate? You stand in contempt of families where both parents are present and create a false perception of parents giving their children everything and feigning perfection. You sound bitter, though. Maybe because you didn't have both parents present in your life, you stand in harsh judgment of those that do.

I don't advocate for anything, I said "personally" - meaning me, my preference.
If you want to avoid girls from "broken homes", more power to you.

Let FullThrottle be FullThrottle. It's off brand for me to date a boring normal chick. I need something different. That said, if you must know, nearly all of my exes come from pretty stable families.

Also, I'm the most optimistic guy on the forum. It's the majority that keeps shitting on America, wants to leave, hates American women, and thinks we're on the edge of some kind of civil war / societal breakdown. I'm just sitting here typing and rolling my eyes. The future is good, Florida is opened lol. Bitterness isn't really my personality lol.
 

Lace em up

Woodpecker
Chicks who wake up really early are generally more down to earth and are less likely to be stumbling around drunk at closing time at the bars and clubs.

Most girls wont wake up early. When I lived in a major city this was blaringly obvious. Youd only really see women after around 8:30 and the hotties only appeared around 9:30.

The diamond in the rough is the checkout girl or fitness chick or whatever who casually strolls in to work or gym at 5AM. She probably has her hair tied back and wears little or no makeup but as long as she aint wearing a resting bitch face, shes probably got her shit together. Bonus points if its Sat or Sun morning.

Thats my theory anyway. Good luck.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
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It would seem like grit and perseverance would be virtues found in a woman who has gone through tough times with her family upbringing but...I think it sounds good in theory but not so much in practice—yes, struggles can build virtues but they can scar too. My first wife went through a lot of trauma as a child and it scarred her too much. She was really screwed up. For most of the friends I have which have gone through a divorce, it was their wives who left them and they all came from shitty backgrounds.

FullThrottle, you can't throw the baby out with the bathwater on this one. A girl who is entitled can be entitled whether she is from a broken home or not. But a girl who comes from a two-parent household with her relationship with both parents intact, is going to fare much better in life than a woman from a broken home or daddy issues.


Having in intact household doesn't mean "free from struggle". My own spouse is from a household that's intact but had some significant financial problems for reasons I won't go into through no fault of their own. She isn't entitled at all because she didn't have any financial support to fall back on and had to take care of herself.

Overall I have found that to be beneficial. there have been times when I have extremely long hours. She gets that and understands that it sometimes loving her requires that I not be at home spending time with her.



Most girls wont wake up early. When I lived in a major city this was blaringly obvious. Youd only really see women after around 8:30 and the hotties only appeared around 9:30.

Interesting observation. I noted and have commented offline a few times on the same thing when I was in the New York area.
 
Well, if you're a straight white male with balls in a major US city, the cold hard reality is that you're NEVER going to fit in, for the rest of the short time the empire has left.

If you're reading this message on this forum, even THEN you're not likely to fit in with an american white society. Are you a southern country boy? Some of you are, but the majority of whites in this country have gone full BLM.

US cities are quickly becoming non-white and will be shortly. They will have crime and related diversity issues.

Why not go to Colombia which is at least cheap and has marriageable christian women? Why stay in a collapsing country with the worst women on planet earth? It's about intentions. LINUX didn't advocate moving to Colombia to increase his "notch count."

Besides, the long term economics of places like Colombia, Vietnam, Armenia etc look MUCH MUCH better compared to the United States.

Due to the pandemic and the current frustration with China for multiple reasons, Vietnam is going to be acquiring a huge windfall in manufacturing. If I had not ended up in the Philippines, I might have wound up there. They will be the next Asian Tiger!

My father traveled Asia, and felt Japan had the friendliest women, and Vietnam the most beautiful.
 
Due to the pandemic and the current frustration with China for multiple reasons, Vietnam is going to be acquiring a huge windfall in manufacturing. If I had not ended up in the Philippines, I might have wound up there. They will be the next Asian Tiger!

My father traveled Asia, and felt Japan had the friendliest women, and Vietnam the most beautiful.

Vietnam is a good place to invest in, but it won't become the next Singapore. It has a long ways to go, and it'll eventually catch up to Thailand and stagnate there, as the human capital will reach it's peak. About $2,700 per Capita to $7,800 (Thailand) is still a big room for growth, don't get me wrong.

@FullThrottleTX was correct though in saying that it's gonna be tough to make any sort of money in Vietnam, any real money that is. Maybe If you're working 100% remote, but even then, you're sorta a glorified tourist.

I think EE or LatAm makes more sense if you're working remote because you can become a citizen. Have a stake in society. Also I think we should point out that due to Smartphones, the world is becoming similar anyway. You can't "run" from the internet.

Regardless though, I'm a long long ways from crossing that bridge. I'm not currently in a position to leave the US, no matter how bad it gets right now.

I think maybe the solution is if you want a foreign wife, go on trips and import back the states.

I've heard tons of horror stories with this approach,, but my cousin imported a Moldovan girl to California of all places and is doing just fine.
 
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It would seem like grit and perseverance would be virtues found in a woman who has gone through tough times with her family upbringing but...I think it sounds good in theory but not so much in practice—yes, struggles can build virtues but they can scar too. My first wife went through a lot of trauma as a child and it scarred her too much. She was really screwed up. For most of the friends I have which have gone through a divorce, it was their wives who left them and they all came from shitty backgrounds.

FullThrottle, you can't throw the baby out with the bathwater on this one. A girl who is entitled can be entitled whether she is from a broken home or not. But a girl who comes from a two-parent household with her relationship with both parents intact, is going to fare much better in life than a woman from a broken home or daddy issues.

Also, you are giving implicit support to single moms because you were raised by a single mom. Bro, seriously? Is that what you really advocate? You stand in contempt of families where both parents are present and create a false perception of parents giving their children everything and feigning perfection. You sound bitter, though. Maybe because you didn't have both parents present in your life, you stand in harsh judgment of those that do. But don't do that, man. I get it. I didn't come from that background either. I felt inferior in relationships where the girl I was with did. But that was my issue, not hers. You are encouraging other young men on this forum to choose to be with a woman who comes from a broken home simply because you did and you think women that come from two-parent families are more broken than ones who didn't. That's absurd. It defies logic and reason. I know that you didn't enjoy growing up without a dad together in the same house as your mom. If you say otherwise, you are lying to yourself and I wouldn't want that for you.

To anyone reading this post, know that any woman who has both parents together and was raised to be respectful and reasonable will fare much better in a relationship with you than a woman from a broken home. Because in your relationship, to the extent possible that you deal with issues in your relationship created solely by the both of you, is far less burdensome than to deal with relationship issues from the past. In other words, the less baggage you bring into a relationship the better it will be.

My brother married a young woman from a strong southern family. The parents had a good marriage, and were both medical professionals, who spoiled her all they could. Well, this gal in her mid twenties, a young professional, after a few years, started treating my brother like garbage. She had given him two children, and then decided the house my brother had lovingly rebuilt before they ever met, would have to be sold when she decided to demand a divorce! My brother had to take out a huge bank loan to avoid losing his home. Despite having a good job, my brother struggles due to all the money she sucks out of him each month. Yes, she has two wonderful parents, and had a loving childhood, but that just did not matter. During the divorce, her father was heartbroken, and begged my brother's forgiveness for what his own daughter was doing. My brother is a terrific guy & great dad, and the father loves him like a son.
 

monsquid

Kingfisher
My brother married a young woman from a strong southern family. The parents had a good marriage, and were both medical professionals, who spoiled her all they could. Well, this gal in her mid twenties, a young professional, after a few years, started treating my brother like garbage. She had given him two children, and then decided the house my brother had lovingly rebuilt before they ever met, would have to be sold when she decided to demand a divorce! My brother had to take out a huge bank loan to avoid losing his home. Despite having a good job, my brother struggles due to all the money she sucks out of him each month. Yes, she has two wonderful parents, and had a loving childhood, but that just did not matter. During the divorce, her father was heartbroken, and begged my brother's forgiveness for what his own daughter was doing. My brother is a terrific guy & great dad, and the father loves him like a son.

Stories like this terrify me. I don't necessarily blame the individual women either. It's the society and culture that enables both men and women to act in abhorrent ways. Marriage laws are scary.
 
My brother married a young woman from a strong southern family. The parents had a good marriage, and were both medical professionals, who spoiled her all they could. Well, this gal in her mid twenties, a young professional, after a few years, started treating my brother like garbage. She had given him two children, and then decided the house my brother had lovingly rebuilt before they ever met, would have to be sold when she decided to demand a divorce! My brother had to take out a huge bank loan to avoid losing his home. Despite having a good job, my brother struggles due to all the money she sucks out of him each month. Yes, she has two wonderful parents, and had a loving childhood, but that just did not matter. During the divorce, her father was heartbroken, and begged my brother's forgiveness for what his own daughter was doing. My brother is a terrific guy & great dad, and the father loves him like a son.
My my. So what I'm hearing people say is that being raised by two parents spoils a child, by necessity. The only way for someone to turn out right is to be raised by a single mom. That's the implication.

But the scenario you described, MovingForward, is precisely what I was alluding to...parents who don't raise their kids right when they stay together has no value to their children.

Let me be clear: two parents that stay together and capably raise their children to be virtuous and reasonable human beings, are producing children that stand a far better chance of success in life than a single mother can.

Does anyone dispute that?
 
Stories like this terrify me. I don't necessarily blame the individual women either. It's the society and culture that enables both men and women to act in abhorrent ways. Marriage laws are scary.

I do blame the individual women. Our dysfunctional laws and courts allow females to show their true character, and exploit & destroy men. We now truly know what many women are capable of... Men will never really look at women the same way again.

My brother's ex is truly a bad seed. She sexually manipulated him from the start, but he should have been stronger than that. Her former bestfriend, who washed her hands of her, apologized to my brother during the divorce, explaining that his wife had admitted to her over drinks and right before the wedding, that my sibling was basically a good resource to mine, because he had a good job, a nice house and was cute. And so her plan was to have a few cute kids with him, own his ass from that, and then divorce rape him if she was not fulfilled and got bored. And then move on to another guy to repeat the process. But how many women today think this way? I suspect quite a few... And again, this is a woman from a good family, with a good education and a successful career. But I suppose that helps to make her look respectable and solid to quality men, which is her big deception.

My sibling could never prove it, but he suspected that she was cheating on him with various doctors at the hospital. But this woman was very good at covering her tracks. The only thing my brother had on her was that a hospital staff member once told him that he once saw the wife and a young doctor embracing for a long time in the parking lot, and it definitely appeared romantic in nature. After the divorce, she bought a house on the same street as my brother's place, but on the other side of the road. My brother was terrified that one of his young boys would get run over, as they would make a mad dash to cross the busy street to see mom! She just didn't care. I was told she had many male overnight visitors to her house, to the point it appears she has a serious problem with sexual promiscuity. Again, this damn woman should have bought a house away from her kids. But at least by now (they are currently in their early teens) they know the nature of their mother. They adore their father, and from what I hear, just tolerate their mother.
 
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Serie A1

Woodpecker
I’m in a dilemma boys...

When I walk around the West, I see many women with what could be described as battle-hardened expressions. Stern looks, no smiles, dead eyes, no giggles. Anyone who’s spent time with the feminine spirit would recognize that these women, to some extent, are unhappy. And not as a temporary mood, either; it’s normal for women to fluctuate. No, these women seem unhappy as their default state. On a very simple level, women like this are not pleasant to be around. Is this what our ancestors bled for??

The cause of their jadedness is unclear. Manosphere dialogue dictates that they’ve likely “been pumped and dumped“ too many times. But what about all of the other women who haven’t? Why the long face? From my research, I’ve discovered that, by no fault of their own, a lot of American women are dysgenic (relative to women from their country of origin). Are their foul demeanors subconscious expressions of poor genetic quality? There are many theories, but the bottom line is clear: these women are broadcasting bad vibes at their baseline.

I have had the fortune to spend time with the feminine essence, and it is markedly different than what I see back home. The key difference is being happy and being nice. It is EXTREMELY easy for a woman to behave in this way - I am of the mind that it is their true default state. And I’m not talking about bouncing off the walls giddy either, I just mean a girl who is content in her own being. Again, this is super simple for a woman to pull off, since they are generally moment-to-moment creatures.

So far I have only experienced this with a few girls from Japan and a white girl from Kazakhstan. And once you experience what a pleasant companion a nice girl makes, you can’t go back to anything lesser. Seriously, it’s that good.

Where does one find nice/happy women?

From the description of the kind of woman that you are looking for, you could try worse places than the following nations:
  1. Mexico: happy, passionate, sophisticated.
  2. North Macedonia: easy-going, disciplined, responsible.
  3. Ukraine: artistic, technical, hard-working.
  4. Azerbaijan: warm, loyal, traditional.
  5. Philippines: resourceful, pleasant, non-confrontational.
However, there are probably 75-100 liveable countries that are not the United States and in which you could find a lot of joy.
 

Maecenas

Sparrow
America is not nearly as bad as so many of you make it out to be. It’s ironic that so many of you are bashing on the very thing that actually makes it so much easier for you to swoon a woman overseas. It seems at least one of you feels so insecure about your decision to have settled down with a woman overseas that you’ve sort of disassociated from yourself, become more hard-headed, and dismiss other people who question that decision cause you can’t handle the truth.

Yes there’s lots of gross women from feminist, liberal culture, but 50% of America voted for Trump, and don’t delude me into thinking that was all men, because we all know a ton of men who voted for Clinton. The MSM wants you to think no good women exist here in America. Why are we making conclusions about American women based on social media? And don’t we all want a woman who’s private and respectful about her family? Happy women don’t put themselves out there in public just so that guys like us can feel better and more optimistic.

But even then, if she’s feminist and liberal, if you’re man enough, you can lead a woman to a more God-centered life.

One final note, of course there’s so much mess and chaos in America, it’s the world’s strongest country by far, so of course the world’s most intense spiritual battles are gonna take place in America. It’s the country the deep state wants gone more than any other one. Don’t be so quick to be a pussy and flee the battle field.
 
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