Florida Man buys a $100k Tesla with Bitcoins

samsamsam

Peacock
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I do both cash and credit but I do love my points. Cash is situational like they don't take credit cards or to make a point.

Or to pay off Tony. I don't think Tony takes credit. :)

You get points for every dollar spent. As long as you pay on time you don't owe interest unless you took a cash advance.

I don't follow this stuff as closely as I used to - but you can open cards and get some good up front rewards and free first year annual fee covered - just cancel during the first year. It does mess with credit a little bit each time you open one I think.

http://www.hustlermoneyblog.com/best-bank-bonuses-deals/
 

eradicator

Peacock
Agnostic
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MSW2007 said:
murrb said:
Credit Cards all the way. Too many rewards getting thrown away without using a credit card. I will sign up for at least one new card a year and some of the bonuses are $400 to $500 just for spending a certain amount in the first 3 months.

I have no idea how credit cards work, otherwise I might get in on something like that for buying regular stuff like groceries, toiletries, etc.

Shit, I don't even understand credit card interest rates. Like, if you spend $500 and pay it off at the end of the month, do you pay any interest? If you don't carry the balance and pay interest, do you not get rewards?

Bust out a "credit card rewards" data sheet!


THere are so many data sheets on credit cards on the net already. Yes just make sure you pay off your balance at the end of the month and you pay nothing in fees(unless you use your credit to borrow cash, in which case you start paying interest on it right away).

http://www.freefrequentflyermiles.com/index.htm

there are some great travel sites to check out like

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credit-debit-prepaid-card-programs-390/

http://slickdeals.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?&tagid=3859&f=9

also fatwallet.com has a similar forum and travel section. There are a few times I will prefer to pay with cash, namely at a bar. I have seen bartenders charge the wrong card when it is busy and over charge guys when they are running a tab. Always pay with cash when you are at a bar. Otherwise, if you are paying with cash, you are missing out on either miles or points.
 

JayJuanGee

Crow
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Hotwheels said:
McQueen said:
^I can tell who read the article and who didn't lol.

No, the BitPay transaction broker, locked in the rate at the Bitcoin value the day he bought it, so despite it dropping the dealer still got the full $100k.

Ahhh. Was thinking it would be the rare dealer that didn't want to know what he was getting to the cent.

And I agree that the buyer definitely played his cards right. That's how you get ahead.

@ McQueen - someone was holding the 92-ish Bitcoins when they depreciated - was it Bitpay?

Alternatively, does Bitpay have such a high turn over with their Bitcoins and/or cash that they are able to off load them fairly quickly?

No matter what, as more people invest into Bitcoins, there will be more people holding onto them during these fluctuations, including the Winkledorfs - and so far, no problema in holding onto them... so long as a guy does NOT panic and sell in a dip (which inevitably seems to happen to some people).

As we know, so far BTC has been returning back to previous values and surpassing those previous values, which seems to me going to continue, until such time that there is some kind of govt crack down or major scandal... .. which may or may NOT take place.

I don't buy the claims that BTC is a ponzi scheme or a bubble... but I do buy that there are likely various status quo interests, including big business and some already rich people, like bankers, who do NOT want to have their cushy situations messed up by the Newly rich BTC early adopters. And some of the various status quo interests will likely engage in various tactics to undermine and/or sabotage BTC.
 
Fuck credit cards!

35% of people with credit cards are in debt of $5000+
15% are in debt of over $20000

Both groups rarely pay it off!

When I cut up my CCs years ago, my saving account took off. I take cash with me weekly so whatever is not in my wallet I don't spend. I use to ALWAYS over spend every week of my life.

I only have a Debit Credit Card and a normal bank card today.

It's a trap just like student loans ($100k) where most won't pay them off.
 

JayJuanGee

Crow
Gold Member
supporttheright said:
Fuck credit cards!

35% of people with credit cards are in debt of $5000+
15% are in debt of over $20000

Both groups rarely pay it off!

When I cut up my CCs years ago, my saving account took off. I take cash with me weekly so whatever is not in my wallet I don't spend. I use to ALWAYS over spend every week of my life.

I only have a Debit Credit Card and a normal bank card today.

It's a trap just like student loans ($100k) where most won't pay them off.

Your points about credit cards seem to be a stretch of this particular topic, because the topic of using bitcoin as a form of payment touches upon bitcoin's liquidity but also figuring out whether there are going to be advantages or disadvantages to use bitcoin, especially with large purchases, and also if there might be other payment means available that are less sound money (referring to Gresham's law).

Your particular criticism of credit cards comes off as an inability to control your own spending rather than figuring out ways in which you can profit from the use of credit. Of course, bitcoin can be a way around the credit system, especially if you are able to accumulate a stack of it and the value appreciates, but even if the value does not appreciate, you might be able to use bitcoin to make purchases or to transfer money in ways that can be a bit more difficult to accomplish with cash - especially if you are crossing over borders, and also there seem to be reporting requirements (at least for some businesses) when they transact more than certain amounts of cash - $10k, I believe.

Surely, there are a lot of criticisms of credit cards and the whole credit system, yet if you have built up credit, there are a lot of ways that you could profit from such built up of credit, to the extent that you are creative and are able to manage your spending, so you don't end up paying more cc fees than you had intended based on an inability to make full payments. Actually, most guys realize that many of the fees can be avoided with timely payments, but surely credit cards can engage in trapping customers into paying fees that they had not realized would be there (aka hidden fees).

Another decent criticism of credit cards is the loss of privacy, and cash is going to tend to bring more privacy.

I tend to agree with what seems to be your point about the bubble nature of the increased cost of education that seems to have come from the way that student credit is made available, but I also have a tendency to value education, so embarking on credit to become more educated could play out differently for younger guys who are making those choices, and may depend on options that the guy has (speculating on whether education and what kind might be helpful to him).... but also seems to be deviating from the original thread topic, no?
 
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