Florida Pulse gay nightclub attack in Orlando, 50+ dead

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Kingfisher
RE: Florida Pulse gay nightclub attacked in Orlando

H1N1 said:
Generally these guys are bums and losers rather than hardened jihadis. If you look into the guys who have been carrying out these attacks across Europe and the US, you'll see that they have typically taken a very relaxed approach to their religion. Many of them have been gang members, smoked a lot of dope, been out clubbing and drinking, etc etc. I would not be surprised if it turned out that this guy, far from being a religious zealot for much of his adult life, had actually lead the kind of life his religion would condemn. I suspect any hardening of his religious convictions is a recent thing.

That's not to say Islam isn't a problem. However, the nature of the problem may not be as straightforward as we are making it. It is shocking how unIslamic the lives of most of these terrorists have been.
Excellent post.

There's something much deeper going on here. Too much deviance from the norm among humans in all aspects of our interactions with nature, we're now bearing the repercussions.
 

Seth_Rose

Pelican
Gold Member
RE: Florida Pulse gay nightclub attacked in Orlando

void said:
I think the probability of Trump becoming the next US President is going to rise a few percent, I wonder how he will spin it.

I agree. However, he needs to be smart in his approach. The killer has been a US citizen for many years, so it wasn't like he came here as a refugee. Becoming radicalized is the issue.
 

XPQ22

Ostrich
RE: Florida Pulse gay nightclub attacked in Orlando

Yatagan said:
ISIS also recruits comfort women for their troops' needs.

The problem with most of the major organized religions: the commandments are either so overbearing and broad that nobody can help but do the things they forbid pretty much constantly, or so trivial and frustrating that all sorts of loopholes have to be constructed to prevent the psychotic minutiae from endlessly interfering with modern life (see Judaism, Islam's prohibition on usury, etc.)

The big three organized religions are simply crack dealers for dispensations.
 

Sourcecode

Crow
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RE: Florida Pulse gay nightclub attacked in Orlando

I'm betting this was a kill team hit. Multiple trained men. False flag movement.
Its just too perfect.
Gun Control..LBGT rights movement..Anti Muslim/Middle east... all rolled into one scene.

One random dude doesn't do damage like this without lots of training...
 

CaptainS

Hummingbird
RE: Florida Pulse gay nightclub attacked in Orlando

The news is interviewing a gay who said the shots sounded like machine gun fire - already banned weapons. So, again, gun control is a failure and didn't stop anything.
 

BassPlayaYo

Kingfisher
RE: Florida Pulse gay nightclub attacked in Orlando

Sourcecode said:
I'm betting this was a kill team hit. Multiple trained men. False flag movement.
Its just too perfect.
Gun Control..LBGT rights movement..Anti Muslim/Middle east... all rolled into one scene.

One random dude doesn't do damage like this without lots of training...

He seemed to be a fan of the NYPD.
 

etwsake

Woodpecker
Catholic
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RE: Florida Pulse gay nightclub attacked in Orlando

Why do people immediately jump to false flag accusations?

This shit is real. It HAPPENS. One guy with one gun and enough ammunition can and did kill or wound over 100 unarmed people in an enclosed space.
 

XPQ22

Ostrich
RE: Florida Pulse gay nightclub attacked in Orlando

Sourcecode said:
I'm betting this was a kill team hit. Multiple trained men. False flag movement.
Its just too perfect.
Gun Control..LBGT rights movement..Anti Muslim/Middle east... all rolled into one scene.

One random dude doesn't do damage like this without lots of training...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_(Australia)

Looks like a retard from Tasmania pulled it off just fine.
 

BURNΞR

Ostrich
Agnostic
RE: Florida Pulse gay nightclub attacked in Orlando

Hopefully this turns the swing state of Florida red. Trump really needs Florida.
 

Travesty

Crow
Gold Member
RE: Florida Pulse gay nightclub attacked in Orlando

^ Have you ever been in a crowded club? What do you think would happen if someone had a machine gun and people were trampling each other?
 

Fast Eddie

Pelican
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RE: Florida Pulse gay nightclub attacked in Orlando

Seth_Rose said:
void said:
I think the probability of Trump becoming the next US President is going to rise a few percent, I wonder how he will spin it.

I agree. However, he needs to be smart in his approach. The killer has been a US citizen for many years, so it wasn't like he came here as a refugee. Becoming radicalized is the issue.

I don't see the issue. Trump proposed a "temporary" ban on Muslim immigration, until we can figure out how to vet them effectively. If we can't figure out an effective way of vetting because even the "harmless" Muslims can radicalize at any time after getting admitted, that just means the temporary ban becomes a permanent ban. That will be a feature not a bug for most Americans.
 

XPQ22

Ostrich
RE: Florida Pulse gay nightclub attacked in Orlando

Travesty said:
^ Have you ever been in a crowded club? What do you think would happen if someone had a machine gun and people were trampling each other?

Yeah, the fact that anyone was left alive at all speaks only to his incompetence, not his "training."
 

lex the impaler

Woodpecker
RE: Florida Pulse gay nightclub attacked in Orlando

Just in time for Obama to pass one last executive order? Saw a snapchat by some bros outside the club. Seen looked rather scary. Didn't sound like automatic fire, but he was firing them off rather quickly. Now they're striking the heartland.
 

Lucky

Pelican
Gold Member
RE: Florida Pulse gay nightclub attacked in Orlando

Seth_Rose said:
I agree. However, he needs to be smart in his approach. The killer has been a US citizen for many years, so it wasn't like he came here as a refugee. Becoming radicalized is the issue.

Trump has said he wants a complete ban on all Muslim immigration, until we can figure out what is going on. This may entail figuring out why Muslims move here and become radicalized.

I think we all have an inkling as to why, but he is the only presidential candidate who has put forth this type of idea.
 

lex the impaler

Woodpecker
RE: Florida Pulse gay nightclub attacked in Orlando

XPQ22 said:
Travesty said:
^ Have you ever been in a crowded club? What do you think would happen if someone had a machine gun and people were trampling each other?

Yeah, the fact that anyone was left alive at all speaks only to his incompetence, not his "training."

Exactly. Watching the video and hearing how many shots were fired, I'm surprised the number isn't higher.
 

AFS

Woodpecker
RE: Florida Pulse gay nightclub attacked in Orlando

Florida Imam comments on shooting at press conference

UNBELIEVABLE. These people have no shame.

Before the blood has even been cleaned off the streets, an Imam is at the site talking to people about "not rushing to conclusions."

It's like bringing a Nazi over to Auschwitz to discuss the holocaust, and trying to convince people Hitler had nothing to do with it... let's not jump to conclusions.
 
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