Floyd "Money" Mayweather VS Robert "The Ghost" Guerrero

[Merenguero]

De La Hoya is picking Guerrero by decision.

That makes absolutely no sense. Since Compubox (spelling) has been used, Mayweather has the distinction of being the boxer of any weight class who other boxers have landed the lowest percentage of punches on. Is De La Hoya's logic that Guerrero will land more punches on Mayweather than Mayweather lands on Guerrero? I realize that the amount of punches landed is not the only factor which goes into a decision, but does De La Hoya honestly believe that Guerrero will outland Mayweather? Everyone who steps into the ring has a chance and I actually see Guerrero taking a round or two from Mayweather. Miguel Cotto took two, or argueably three, rounds from Mayweather and it was considered by some to be some huge triumph. Mayweather 118-110. No knockdowns. I'm being somewhat generous in giving Guerrero two rounds.

 

[Timoteo]

If Floyd lies on the ropes and just lets Guerrero punch himself out, the fight could appear closer than it actually is. This is what he did against Cotto, and he actually got touched more than we're used to seeing him touched. At the same time, it's hard to land SOLID shots against Mayweather. He'll give you some body (picking off a lot of it with his elbows), and pick off pretty much anything that comes upstairs. Floyd gives up some early rounds simply because he doesn't throw a volume of punches, but as his opponent either tires, or exposes holes, he steps up the attack as the rounds go by. Guerrero presents and interesting challenge, but I expect Money to win by unanimous decision. If you look back at how he fought Oscar, he followed that plan - lay on the ropes and let Oscar bang away early, then start tagging him when his arms got a tired.

 

[Merenguero]

At the same time, it's hard to land SOLID shots against Mayweather. He'll give you some body (picking off a lot of it with his elbows), and pick off pretty much anything that comes upstairs.

This is a good point. I watched the Mayweather-De La Hoya fight a few days ago and at one point in the fight, it looked like Mayweather was letting De La Hoya land quite a few body shots in a short period of time. In actuality, he was picking a lot of them off with his elbows and not really getting hurt by them.

 

[thegmanifesto]

At the same time, it's hard to land SOLID shots against Mayweather. He'll give you some body (picking off a lot of it with his elbows), and pick off pretty much anything that comes upstairs.

This is a good point. I watched the Mayweather-De La Hoya fight a few days ago and at one point in the fight, it looked like Mayweather was letting De La Hoya land quite a few body shots in a short period of time. In actuality, he was picking a lot of them off with his elbows and not really getting hurt by them.

Exactly.

He blocks those body shots.

He dominated De La more way more than most people realized.

Just like Pernell Whitaker did.

I was pissed about the Whitaker fight.

I had money on Pernell. I knew he was going to win.

I didn't account for a robbery to take place.

 

[thegmanifesto]

Any more thoughts on this fight?

It is right around the corner.

So is The Derby. The best day in sports of the year.

 

[Belize King]

Floyd took alot of shots his last fight. I dont know if he was trying to prove a point that he can brawl or he is slowing down. I am getting the fight. Wasn't trying to but G got me interested. I might put 2 bills on him to win.

Berto was overrated and exposed. I was and still am a huge Berto fan but he isn't a top tier fighter. I don't put too much stock into that fight. Would never compare Floyd to Berto.

Saul is exposed in the Trout fight but I think Saul will catch Floyd with a clean punch and knock him out. If it happens in September I am there. Floyd have to fade G next week though.

 

[Teedub]

I had £100 on Khan, Martinez and Garcia to win via points wins. I made a nice little profit.

Think Mayweather takes this. 5 of my friends are actually flying to Vegas to watch it. One of them has connections in the music biz so has been hooked up, I'm jealous!

 

[InternationPlayboy]

Now I want to see the pops fight

 

[Merenguero]

Mayweather 118-110. No knockdowns. I'm being somewhat generous in giving Guerrero two rounds.

I was off by a round. Guerrero may have taken Rounds 1 and 2, but I have no idea what the third round which he supposedly won was. These guys come into a fight with Mayweather all cocky and have no idea what they're up against. He may not look that good on television or even in person, but he is the best pound for pound boxer ever.

I see Alvarez suffering a similar fate. That is, if that fight actually happens in September and it appears that it will. The odds in that fight should be somewhere between -150 and -350 in favor of Mayweather. Many Mexicans and Mexican-Americans will be betting on Alvarez which should make the odds pretty favorable.

 

[Kickb]

That God guy is an asshole! He let Floyd win and he didn't even wear a God Is Great t-shirt like Guerrero did.

 

[Merenguero]

Straight bets on Sergio Martinez, Peter Quillin, and Danny Garcia on one Saturday, and a straight bet on Floyd on the following Saturday. Horrible odds, but little risk.

Did anyone do this? I know the odds were bad, but if you showed up to Las Vegas with a solid five-figure amount in your hands and kept betting back everything you made plus the principle, you definitely made a nice profit.

After seeing Martinez last week, I no longer believe that he is a safe bet. He arguably lost to Martin Murray and is becoming increasingly injury-prone. I didn't see a scratch on Murray's face in the post-fight interview. I think my safe bet list is now down to Floyd Mayweather and Andre Ward.

 

[Timoteo]

I had this a shutout for Floyd. I didn't even give Guerrero any of the early rounds because he didn't land anything significant. Floyd slipped everything Guerrero threw upstairs. Floyd was potshotting him with the lead right consistently. Guerrero tried to rough him up, but Floyd is stronger and tougher than people give him credit for. When Floyd was on the ropes, it was because HE backed up to lure Guerrero in. He does that against a lot of opponents. Floyd dictates pretty much every moment of his fights. He actually moved more in this fight than he has in a while, but he often fights right in the pocket and still doesn't get hit, even to the body. He picks off most of those shots too. Guerrero fought about as well as he could have here, and he continued to press forward, but he still didn't let his hands go as much as he's done against any other opponent. Guys realize when they're in there against Floyd that they can't do what they've done against anyone else.

 

[gamepadawan]

so who does Floyd fight next? Canelo, Khan? Does anyone else thing the whole manny thing was stupid? I think FLoyd would have schooled him and he would have gotten paid, now nobody gives a shit about this fight.

 

[InternationPlayboy]

Nice job floyd

 

[MidniteSpecial]

Shouldn't had his son sit in the front rows if he couldn't handle seeing his dad get whipped. Haha. Money team.

Loving no Larry Mercant btw.

 

[Timoteo]

I thought it was a bad sign that during his pre-fight interview with Jim Gray, Guerrero was talking about ring generalship. Not dominating Floyd, roughing him up, cutting off the ring, etc. etc. Ring generalship. Please. He wasn't talking like he thought he could win, or knew how to do it.

 

[Spider]

sick fight, Mayweather's defense was incredible...think Guerrero landed less than 20% of his punches.

...Mayweather should beat Alvarez, cut a deal with Pacman, beat him, and retire.

 

[InternationPlayboy]

Crazy good defense last night and efficiency. He landed 60% of his power punches. I just wish Mayweather wasn't so greedy, because had he fought everyone he should have, he may not be undefeated right now. But I can't hate, he's a great business man. But think about it, Ali had been defeated at 36. Ain't no way Mayweather is as good of a boxer as Ali was. Defensively though, he is one of the greatest of all time.

 

[Dexter Morgan]

Props to Floyd - he's one of the best defensive fighters ever. I bought the fight on PPV just to watch him slip punches.

That said, i'm a little tired of the way he cherry-picks opponents so that he always has some advantage. Most of his opponents the past few years fit into one of two categories (or both): Coming up in weight (so that Floyd has a natural size advantage), or slightly past their prime. Hatton (slightly past his peak, coming up in weight), Marquez (ditto), Cotto (past his peak; Mayweather avoided him in his prime), Guerrero (coming up TWO weight classes -- the guy fought at 135 pounds three fights ago!). He ducked the hell out of Pacquiao in prime (maybe he'll fight him now that he's spent!). Ditto for Antonio Margarito - ducked him for a decade! Victor Ortiz - coming up in weight. Shane Mosely - past his prime (ducked him, and Winky Wright, and Vernon Forest, and Felix Trinidad, in their primes...heck he never fought the last three guys AT ALL!).

So based on all of that, my guess is that Floyd wants NOTHING to do with Canelo...he'll find an excuse to dodge. Based on his history, Floyd's next opponent will be....wait for it...AMIR KHAN! Fits the profile, doesn't he? A natural Jr. Welterweight who is only now moving to Welterweight, past his prime (had several vicious knockdown/knockout fights), a name-brand fighter (so Floyd still makes bank). My guess is that they fight in the UK, so they double the size of the live gate and the PPV crowd. Floyd will make $50M without breaking a sweat. I admire his business skills. I just don't get excited by his choice of opponents; makes for predictable fights.

 

[InternationPlayboy]

Props to Floyd - he's one of the best defensive fighters ever. I bought the fight on PPV just to watch him slip punches.

I don't know if you would be interested in streaming it for free next time, maybe you prefer the quality of PPV, but you can stream every fight for free on www.firstrowsports.eu. That's what I use for all my sports and it almost always works. You can just hook the computer up to the TV instead of paying for it, but if you prefer the quality, PPV is definitely better, but still not bad on firstrowsports.