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Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
I was thinking, why did they made the West so rich in the last 6 decades? Sure, there was colonialism before, but in the first half of the 20th century most people in the West were still dirt poor. I've come to believe that those in global power on purpose made the West the extremely comfort driven, materially rich place it has become over the last decades, as a weapon to weaken us. So ironically, all that wealth then was a purposeful weapon to achieve what they knew it would achieve: a bunch of lazy, weak, fat, comfort seeking people. When you take away the more primal evolutionary pressures, people will just curb their effort to safe time and energy, to have enough for when tough times return (which probably at some point even the West will experience materially).
 

Mr Freedom

Robin
Orthodox Inquirer
Suprised this case is not being mentioned more:



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The elites are going to use Andrew Tate as the ultimate example. I disagree with sime of his lifestyle choices but this is clearly a witchunt to destroy the manosphere.

Look how they convienetly tie in anybody who is against mainstream gender confusion as an 'incel'? Which we all know is hilarous because Tate is anything but one..

I watched a Rollo video a few days ago where he said that the Vice documentary was convienantly released after the arrest as there is going to be a massive push against the manosphere.

Not sure how it will work in America due to the 1st amendment but I can totally see red pill, pua & mgtow content being criminalized in the UK & Europe due to the association with Tate. Something is fishy about this.

Maybe thats why they allowed Tate to rise to popularity in Social media algirothims. It was a trap? Using a chess move on a chess player. I still cant beleive Tate was naive enough to allow the Vice documentary. His ego blinded him.

Anyway one thing I just cant wrap around is why do the elites hate the manosphere so much? I would not even class it as being anti-elitist. Are they afraid that someone like a Tate is going to seduce one of their blue blood daughters lol?
 

God's lonely asperger

Woodpecker
Protestant
Anyway one thing I just cant wrap around is why do the elites hate the manosphere so much? I would not even class it as being anti-elitist. Are they afraid that someone like a Tate is going to seduce one of their blue blood daughters lol?
Women are basically the most obedient people the (((elites))) have. They vote to free criminals, they vote for left-wing government, they spend absurd amounts of money every day, they divorce and change their kid's life always for the worse, they have casual sex and absurd "body counts", they are almost never religious, they treat Christianity like it's somehow approving of homosexuality and all sorts of degeneracy, and they sell their bodies and dignity to the (((porn industry))).
 

DanielH

Hummingbird
Moderator
Orthodox
I was thinking, why did they made the West so rich in the last 6 decades? Sure, there was colonialism before, but in the first half of the 20th century most people in the West were still dirt poor. I've come to believe that those in global power on purpose made the West the extremely comfort driven, materially rich place it has become over the last decades, as a weapon to weaken us. So ironically, all that wealth then was a purposeful weapon to achieve what they knew it would achieve: a bunch of lazy, weak, fat, comfort seeking people. When you take away the more primal evolutionary pressures, people will just curb their effort to safe time and energy, to have enough for when tough times return (which probably at some point even the West will experience materially).
I think media is the key factor here. Before media, Westerners were largely just content with their own lives and their neighborhoods. People had enough to get by, and I highly doubt most people had aspirations to be the equivalents of millionaires, billionaires, and Hollywood stars of their time. From everything I've read, the medieval peasant was by and large happy with their situation. They had enough - family, a place to themselves, God, and protection, and that was the case until the printing press.

Then came modern media. Suddenly there was something in your face projecting new ideals to you. "Look at these movie stars! Listen to the radio stars! You want to be like them! Look how much money they have! Now let us break for a commercial advertisement, where we convince you you're trash if you don't have the newest television/refrigerator/washing machine/microwave oven, etc." It created this drive for the acquisition of outward displays wealth that wasn't there before in the same way.
 

Going strong

Hummingbird
Orthodox
Gold Member
There's a high-profile trial these days in France, that of Mickael 'Mika' P., a (Senegalese binational) French 'pick up artist' who had (and still has!) a YouTube PUA channel.

This "PUA" stabbed 3 people, including his French ex-girlfriend and her younger sister (whom he raped, too), to death in 2020, with premeditation and extreme savagery. Three weeks before the deed, he was publishing youtube videos and podcasts about PUA techniques... YouTube has not removed this stuff.

And amazingly, youtube has not demonetized his youtube channel! This disgusting assassin (who learned English during his stay in Canada) occasionally still posts on the Internet from his jail, and makes a bit of money from YouTube and PUA advice.



 
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ISR92

Sparrow
I was thinking, why did they made the West so rich in the last 6 decades? Sure, there was colonialism before, but in the first half of the 20th century most people in the West were still dirt poor. I've come to believe that those in global power on purpose made the West the extremely comfort driven, materially rich place it has become over the last decades, as a weapon to weaken us. So ironically, all that wealth then was a purposeful weapon to achieve what they knew it would achieve: a bunch of lazy, weak, fat, comfort seeking people. When you take away the more primal evolutionary pressures, people will just curb their effort to safe time and energy, to have enough for when tough times return (which probably at some point even the West will experience materially).
Agreed mate. Interestingly, every country is now getting rich. I think liberalism and economic wealth go hand in hand. You can't be a fully-fledged hedonist without some capital at hand. All GDP charts of all countries have either experienced or are experiencing parabolic growth. I assume the elites in the USA, with their military, enforce this world peace to weaken the whole world by removing discomforts as you've already described. Also to tank birth rates.
 

ISR92

Sparrow
Why did the Germans not encircle English forces at Dunkirk? We know Hitler admired the British population. When one of Hitler's associates told him that London would be under fog and they could hit in with "everything we've got", Hitler apparently said, "stop it. I don't want to hear this. This whole attack is against my opinion. The English are of such high class. They are so similar to the Germans".

So perhaps this was Hitler giving them clemency in the hope they would come to their senses. The official narrative is that it was not Hitler who made the call. But I don't trust it.
 

BarrontheTigercat

Kingfisher
Other Christian
Why did the Germans not encircle English forces at Dunkirk? We know Hitler admired the British population. When one of Hitler's associates told him that London would be under fog and they could hit in with "everything we've got", Hitler apparently said, "stop it. I don't want to hear this. This whole attack is against my opinion. The English are of such high class. They are so similar to the Germans".

So perhaps this was Hitler giving them clemency in the hope they would come to their senses. The official narrative is that it was not Hitler who made the call. But I don't trust it.

won't embed it seems.

David Irving explains what happened.
Simply put, the British acted in such a dishonourable manner and so treacherously toward their allies that it took the Germans by surprise.
They hadn't expected it and took a good while to respond.
 

Yeagerist

Kingfisher
Orthodox Catechumen
Why did the Germans not encircle English forces at Dunkirk? We know Hitler admired the British population. When one of Hitler's associates told him that London would be under fog and they could hit in with "everything we've got", Hitler apparently said, "stop it. I don't want to hear this. This whole attack is against my opinion. The English are of such high class. They are so similar to the Germans".
Seems like the Führer actually wanted Britain and France to be his allies against the greater evil at the time which was Bolshevism. Also, Britain and France were not tactically updated on Germany's mobile warfare + combined arms doctrine, the British forces at Dunkirk were caught off guard by the rapid conquest of France. Everybody was expecting a repeat of the trench warfare stalemate at the Western Front.

I attribute Germany's eventual defeat to a combination of incompetence among its top officers as well as deliberate sabotage of Hitler's leadership. Germany ditching its alliance with China for Japan is an example I have in mind. Switching alliances with a country whose main rival was the United States of America was guaranteed an eventual loss in terms of the sheer amount of resources that can be drawn. Germany's military doctrine relies on swiftly defeating one front in order to concentrate on the other, given the Germans' limited industrial capacity and precarious position in Central Europe. That couldn't take into account the fact of the US entering the war as your adversary (and thereby supplying both the UK and the USSR), thanks to your Asian ally stupidly taking the bait at Pearl Harbor.
 

Mr Freedom

Robin
Orthodox Inquirer
There's a high-profile trial these days in France, that of Mickael 'Mika' P., a (Senegalese binational) French 'pick up artist' who had (and still has!) a YouTube PUA channel.

This "PUA" stabbed 3 people, including his French ex-girlfriend and her younger sister (whom he raped, too), to death in 2020, with premeditation and extreme savagery. Three weeks before the deed, he was publishing youtube videos and podcasts about PUA techniques... YouTube has not removed this stuff.

And amazingly, youtube has not demonetized his youtube channel! This disgusting assassin (who learned English during his stay in Canada) occasionally still posts on the Internet from his jail, and makes a bit of money from YouTube and PUA advice.




I am against the manafactured hysteria against PUA by the mainstream media

However from attending meetups during my old ways I wont deny that It can attract some very odd people to say the least.

frenzied autists, magicians & guys who you can blatantly tell have a history of getting into trouble with the law & drug use.

Due to these reasons whenever I use to run 'game' it was either on my own, or with close freinds who were into it, and never with 'meetup wings'
 

Yeagerist

Kingfisher
Orthodox Catechumen
I love the chud edits of Tate. I really like the chudjak in general, kek.
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(Pic was cropped because it had gigachad swearing and calling him the based gamer word and telling him to get away from him.)
For real man, Tate deserves getting portrayed as a soyjak lot of based folks, because the best that he can offer is a life of material abundance that leads to spiritual emptiness in the end. The fact that his fanbase nowadays is mostly Muslim tells us a lot on the hedonist tendencies of Islam. His followers' worldview is built on a fallacy of trying to isolate masculinity from spirituality and virtue. As Ecclesiastes says, it's all vanity in the end.
 

infowarrior1

Crow
Protestant
I was thinking, why did they made the West so rich in the last 6 decades? Sure, there was colonialism before, but in the first half of the 20th century most people in the West were still dirt poor. I've come to believe that those in global power on purpose made the West the extremely comfort driven, materially rich place it has become over the last decades, as a weapon to weaken us. So ironically, all that wealth then was a purposeful weapon to achieve what they knew it would achieve: a bunch of lazy, weak, fat, comfort seeking people. When you take away the more primal evolutionary pressures, people will just curb their effort to safe time and energy, to have enough for when tough times return (which probably at some point even the West will experience materially).

The fake money system since 1913 and earlier by the compromises on usury helped to set up this environment.

Imagine how much more oil was depleted rather than energy consumption more moderated because of this money system.

Imagine if we got wealthy slower subsequently. Because of a more solid monetary system.
 

infowarrior1

Crow
Protestant
I am against the manafactured hysteria against PUA by the mainstream media

However from attending meetups during my old ways I wont deny that It can attract some very odd people to say the least.

frenzied autists, magicians & guys who you can blatantly tell have a history of getting into trouble with the law & drug use.

Due to these reasons whenever I use to run 'game' it was either on my own, or with close freinds who were into it, and never with 'meetup wings'

And the soyboy so called masculinity on the other side. It's that false dichotomy that helps to get many people.
 

Mr Freedom

Robin
Orthodox Inquirer
Maybe we should reopen the AT thread? If it was closed only due to a spammer or two I mean... The guy looks a bit tired at this stage I think, and the enemy of my enemy is my friend etc, no matter what you think of him otherwise.



Its crazy that had Roosh not changed his ways that could very well be him right now. Its strange how much Tate's cancellation reminds me of the events of 2015

Anyway, i'm going to touch on some unhinged (or not) theories circulating the internet about Tate. Some people are suggesting that he uses a freemasonic/illuminati hand gesture (which can be seen in the vid where he is being escorted to the police van) as a wayvto signle that he is just playing a role.

I am just speculatimg here but its interesting that Roosh got virtually no support for the events of 2015 whilst Tate still has some major backers & alot of them seem to be from a "kosher" background.

Is this all just a charade? Honestly who knows. But its kind of intriguing that the Tate bros were on multiple reality TV shows before being internet famous. I personally dont think you can get multiple TV appereances without being "connected" in some way.
 

paternos

Kingfisher
Catholic
Its crazy that had Roosh not changed his ways that could very well be him right now. Its strange how much Tate's cancellation reminds me of the events of 2015

Anyway, i'm going to touch on some unhinged (or not) theories circulating the internet about Tate. Some people are suggesting that he uses a freemasonic/illuminati hand gesture (which can be seen in the vid where he is being escorted to the police van) as a wayvto signle that he is just playing a role.

I am just speculatimg here but its interesting that Roosh got virtually no support for the events of 2015 whilst Tate still has some major backers & alot of them seem to be from a "kosher" background.

Is this all just a charade? Honestly who knows. But its kind of intriguing that the Tate bros were on multiple reality TV shows before being internet famous. I personally dont think you can get multiple TV appereances without being "connected" in some way.
Maybe they created Tate to pervert the muslims.

Wouldn't be surprised.

His style, clothes, the cars, the whores, his conversion.

I think he doesn't really speak to the European guy.
 

Maddox

Kingfisher
Protestant
Women are basically the most obedient people the (((elites))) have. They vote to free criminals, they vote for left-wing government, they spend absurd amounts of money every day, they divorce and change their kid's life always for the worse, they have casual sex and absurd "body counts", they are almost never religious, they treat Christianity like it's somehow approving of homosexuality and all sorts of degeneracy, and they sell their bodies and dignity to the (((porn industry))).

Not to mention they are soft on immigration. Just tell them that they need to help people because uh...they're refugees from a war on the other side of the world...so we need to import them over here. Tell them that and they'll gladly help even though they don't know what you're referring to and don't care if they're being told a lie. They don't seem to understand that it will destroy entire cultures.
 

God's lonely asperger

Woodpecker
Protestant
Not to mention they are soft on immigration. Just tell them that they need to help people because uh...they're refugees from a war on the other side of the world...so we need to import them over here. Tell them that and they'll gladly help even though they don't know what you're referring to and don't care if they're being told a lie. They don't seem to understand that it will destroy entire cultures.
They don't understand that Muhammad is the one behind most of the rape in Europe, many such cases.
 
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