German 19th century philosopher A. Schopenhauer "On Women"

[nomadbrah]

RE: German 19th century philosopher A. Schopenhauer "On Women"

People should read the whole thing.

Schopenhauer doesn't hate on women, he hates on white knight men, who goes against what nature intended for women by pedestalizing them and trying to lock them into an unnatural institution (marriage).

Nature has made it the calling of the young, strong, and handsome men to look after the propagation of the human race; so that the species may not degenerate. This is the firm will of Nature, and it finds its expression in the passions of women

So that their conscience does not trouble them so much as we imagine, for in the darkest depths of their hearts they are conscious that in violating their duty towards the individual they have all the better fulfilled it towards the species

Provider game, btfo out, Schopenhauer calls it as he sees it. It is simply the duty of women to discard the beta for the alpha.

He writes the whole thing against the anglo victorian concept of "the lady".

In the West, the woman, that is to say the “lady,” finds herself in a fausse position; for woman, rightly named by the ancients sexus sequior, is by no means fit to be the object of our honour and veneration, or to hold her head higher than man and to have the same rights as he.

The European lady, strictly speaking, is a creature who should not exist at all; but there ought to be housekeepers, and young girls who hope to become such; and they should be brought up not to be arrogant, but to be domesticated and submissive.

It is exactly because there are ladies in Europe that women of a lower standing, that is to say, the greater majority of the sex, are much more unhappy than they are in the East.

He suggests polygamy, harems, because he sees monogamy as bringing out the worst in women and relegating those surplus women, widows etc, to being angry cat ladies without a purpose.

Therefore, whilst among polygamous nations every woman finds maintenance, where monogamy exists the number of married women is limited, and a countless number of women who are without support remain over; those in the upper classes vegetate as useless old maids, those in the lower are reduced to very hard work of a distasteful nature, or become prostitutes, and lead a life which is as joyless as it is void of honour.

It is useless to argue about polygamy, it must be taken as a fact existing everywhere, the mere regulation of which is the problem to be solved.

The man was brutally redpilled, there's absolutely no excuse for the beta/omega who wants society to bind a woman to him alone. That's why Schopenhauer is a famous philosopher, the truthpills from Scopenhauer eviscerates any illusion, any solace and white lies, and honestly best forgotten for most men.

 

[Flux]

RE: German 19th century philosopher A. Schopenhauer "On Women"

I love to read Schopenhauer, he is very good. However, he is nowhere near as creative or original as Nietzsche.

Nietzsche was appointed one of the youngest professors in history, in the German language world, for a reason. He was a bona fide genius.

Nietzsche goes deeper and more fearlessly than Schopenhauer.

Both are great of course.

Nietzsche described the superman as something to come out of evolution, but it's not, he was describing himself, or what he was almost, choosing Goethe as his superior. Evolution is over, we are a complete species.

Supermen are found throughout history and it can never be common, they have to be extremely rare.

Philosophers project themselves into their writings, always keep this in mind. Find those that are like you, because only they can help you.

 

[torridon747]

RE: German 19th century philosopher A. Schopenhauer "On Women"

@flux

Not my experience at all. Hope you work out your sex addiction

 

[Flux]

RE: German 19th century philosopher A. Schopenhauer "On Women"

Well I'm assuming you're intelligent, and intelligent men oftentimes have issues with embracing their natures, being confident.

You need to match your ego to your ability. Maybe you don't have that problem and are as confident as you are skilled, but in my case, in my early youth, I used to be a lot more skilled than confident, and as result got nothing, or at least, not what I was capable of.

I've had to grow my ego to match my abilities, and certainly you describing your abilities, it seems you have some, so maybe the solution for you is likewise.

 

[estraudi]

RE: German 19th century philosopher A. Schopenhauer "On Women"

Your nature is smarter than you think, you don't need to overthink everything.

Let yourself go a little more, be a little more loose with your power. I don't know what your margins are, but I like to take risks to get to full psychological domination, calculated to a degree of course. Normally the girls that are into being slaves are not intelligent and have no social power themselves. I like to play cat and mouse with intelligent women that have status. It's crazy that when you stop having sex, you have so much creativity--I've been figuring a lot of things about the world lately.

Good points Flux. Being looser with power to me means saving the overthinking and overanalyzing for AFTER I've gone through and been present in the moment in any action I choose to be apart of whether it be with women, for business, friendships or life in general.
Figuring out those things about the world with newfound energy AFTER sex and the "hunt" has been what my 30's are about now. And I'm only two years into that at 32. Seems like the natural progression and a blessing for men as we mature in looks, wisdom & capability during this decade and for at least another 3 decades. I wonder what age Schopenhauer wrote his most redpill redpills. To me it seems he wrote it for men that are hitting their stride after a certain age.

 

[Jefferson]

RE: German 19th century philosopher A. Schopenhauer "On Women"

I love to read Schopenhauer, he is very good. However, he is nowhere near as creative or original as Nietzsche.

Nietzsche was appointed one of the youngest professors in history, in the German language world, for a reason. He was a bona fide genius.

Nietzsche goes deeper and more fearlessly than Schopenhauer.

Both are great of course.

Nietzsche described the superman as something to come out of evolution, but it's not, he was describing himself, or what he was almost, choosing Goethe as his superior. Evolution is over, we are a complete species.

Supermen are found throughout history and it can never be common, they have to be extremely rare.

Philosophers project themselves into their writings, always keep this in mind. Find those that are like you, because only they can help you.

That's not the full story flux. Yes, Nietzsche did inject a biological element into his Uebermensch, which is very poorly translated as Superman btw, it really represents an 'Ideal man', the old Overman is better, however, Nietzsche also had an intellectual element in mind. He described Lord Byron as an Uebermensch for example. And his whole point was that it was not the wellbeing of the whole species that mattered but those very few appearances of the Byron like characters. So he was aware of this. It was not a purely biological interpretation.

One can also interpret the Uebermensch as a product of what you as the individual can achieve if you overcome yourself. Much like game would do, some may argue.

 

[The_e_man]

RE: German 19th century philosopher A. Schopenhauer "On Women"

>>What he says is true, but you can't think like that if you want to connect with a woman.

It has elements of truth, not the whole truth. You can also find plenty of MGTOW and Incel sites which say unflattering things about women which are partly or wholely true. Guys who spend a lot of time reading MGTOW and Incel forums, or threads on this forum which regurgitate MGTOW/incel talking points, end up becoming incompetent with women. So Flux definitely has a point: better to stay away from stuff like Schopenhauer on Women, which is amusing to read but which poisons your mind and diminishes your ability to get results.

So what do you propose? We all bury our heads in the sand and ignore the true nature of women and avoid reading any literature surrounding it? So we can ostensibly have a better chance of getting some pussy?

 

[MrLemon]

RE: German 19th century philosopher A. Schopenhauer "On Women"

remind me, why do guys get married still?

To have sons and daughters. As soon as they invent artificial wombs, then bzzzzt! marriage disappears.