Tenerife said:European caucasians did not evolve from Negroes. Period.
That sounds alot more philosophical than scientific. It must be so because you wish it to be so.
Next you'll regale me as to how the world was created in six days...
Tenerife said:European caucasians did not evolve from Negroes. Period.
Timoteo said:L M McCoy said:I'm probably going to get the ban hammer for this but why is it that MAINLY blacks bitch and moan about racism/discrimination? In Europe, women who get boned by Arabs lose "value" but do you hear us crying? Blacks have a bunch of sympathizers to the point where you can't even disagree with someone whose black without being ambushed by people armed with "you're racist."
You see it here too, A "brutha" can ask "how do black guys do in X country" yet if someone of another race were to say it, they would get called a race troll.
Was this a meltdown?
The Indian Forum members don't seem to bothered about the whole IRT thing. Asian members seem to be cool with the whole "Asian guys are beta" thing going on. Yet picture someone posting about BRT.
I think you're being selective here. If a Black guy asks the question, he's immediately told that he's making excuses, he should tighten up his game, etc. etc. But when white guys post that you're golden in XY country if you're white, it's taken as truth. As Blacks, we can actually acknowledge that there is truth that whites may be better received in certain countries - we're just asking for opinions as to what areas would be largely a waste of time, and which we might have better success so to maximize time and money. The problem is that race gets introduced in so many threads that have nothing to do with race, and it isn't the Black guys doing that.
Sharky Jackson said:Samseau said:Not true at all. The "back to Africa" theory has been discredited just recently with the discovery of humans in Great Britian dating back over 1 million years.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...dest-ever-seen-outside-of-africa-9114151.html
Two logical holes in your theory...
1. The genetic lineage of all humans traces back to Africa.
2. There is no way to determine the "race" of the British footprints. They may very well have been those of a Black African.
speakeasy said:How did Africans manage to survive from the dawn of time up until 1500 before they ever saw a white person?
Samseau said:Look at this link:
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/xpeditions/lessons/09/g912/haplogroupA.pdf
Please explain to me how they know the mitochondrial eve came from Africa? There's no explanation given, other than the fact that it was determined only in 1987 there even was a mitochondrial eve. Back in 1987, the oldest human fossils belonged in Africa so they assumed mitochondrial eve comes from Africa.
Bad logic, because it assumes the fossils were reliable. As we have learned from the footprints found in Britain dating back nearly a million years, our fossil record sucks.
Finally, even if DNA can be traced back to Africa on the mother's side, we still don't know where the fathers are coming from. The fact that they can only trace DNA back 200K years shows how incomplete our picture of humanity's evolution truly is. It is still entirely possible that today's humans are the result of an interesting crossbreed of many types of humans that took place over millions of years.
Furthermore, we don't know how intelligent the predecessors to modern humans were. We don't know their physical characteristics, such as race, either. What if there were an ancient race of humans far more advanced than we are today?
BortimusPrime said:It's funny that people still buy into the jungle fever myth anyways. Didn't okcupid do a study with all their data that showed that, excepting asians, women had a much higher preference for dating within their own race? As far as the "being tainted by banging a black guy" goes, I'd bet that has more to do with unconscious association of blacks with the underclasses.
NY Digital said:There was a discussion about this in previous threads and is a really strong point.
All of the immigrants that have come to America and built America from the ground up were White Europeans.
The mass immigrations into America assimilated rather quickly into the culture, however they were all similar in skin color.
Whites factually built America. Now you have a bunch of immigrants coming in that are stark contrasts to White Europeans,
and that's why Americans are pissed off.
These very different immigrants refuse to accept our culture, speak their own language, and leech off the benefits that
White Europeans built.
America was really just United States for Free Europeans, now it's just a jumbled mess.
Europe was a competitive battlefield mess that was a true battle for survival of the fittest. Only the smartest survived in the densely populated continent called Europe. Physical attributes weren't as important compared to Africa(Sub-saharn for the most part)
darklightdispatch said:BortimusPrime said:It's funny that people still buy into the jungle fever myth anyways. Didn't okcupid do a study with all their data that showed that, excepting asians, women had a much higher preference for dating within their own race? As far as the "being tainted by banging a black guy" goes, I'd bet that has more to do with unconscious association of blacks with the underclasses.
I'm a white dude who finds black girls attractive, so I'm not making a moral judgement or whatever here, but it's totally logically for whites (and other races) to avoid fucking blacks for health reasons. Black people in the U.S. have dramatically higher rates of all STDs, particularly AIDS, than other races.
A white woman who makes a habit of hooking up with black guys is demonstrating that she's either ignorant of this or doesn't care. Either way, that's not a mark in her favor, particularly in an LTR/wife scenario. If you're a promiscuous male or female, avoiding blacks is a effective way of reducing your STD risk.
Sharky Jackson said:You choose to believe that you're not African because being African must be negative in some way.
Timoteo said:In the eyes of many, we're still not seen as Americans.
Avon Barksdale said:darklightdispatch said:BortimusPrime said:It's funny that people still buy into the jungle fever myth anyways. Didn't okcupid do a study with all their data that showed that, excepting asians, women had a much higher preference for dating within their own race? As far as the "being tainted by banging a black guy" goes, I'd bet that has more to do with unconscious association of blacks with the underclasses.
I'm a white dude who finds black girls attractive, so I'm not making a moral judgement or whatever here, but it's totally logically for whites (and other races) to avoid fucking blacks for health reasons. Black people in the U.S. have dramatically higher rates of all STDs, particularly AIDS, than other races.
A white woman who makes a habit of hooking up with black guys is demonstrating that she's either ignorant of this or doesn't care. Either way, that's not a mark in her favor, particularly in an LTR/wife scenario. If you're a promiscuous male or female, avoiding blacks is a effective way of reducing your STD risk.
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Sharky Jackson said:Samseau said:Look at this link:
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/xpeditions/lessons/09/g912/haplogroupA.pdf
Please explain to me how they know the mitochondrial eve came from Africa? There's no explanation given, other than the fact that it was determined only in 1987 there even was a mitochondrial eve. Back in 1987, the oldest human fossils belonged in Africa so they assumed mitochondrial eve comes from Africa.
Bad logic, because it assumes the fossils were reliable. As we have learned from the footprints found in Britain dating back nearly a million years, our fossil record sucks.
Finally, even if DNA can be traced back to Africa on the mother's side, we still don't know where the fathers are coming from. The fact that they can only trace DNA back 200K years shows how incomplete our picture of humanity's evolution truly is. It is still entirely possible that today's humans are the result of an interesting crossbreed of many types of humans that took place over millions of years.
Furthermore, we don't know how intelligent the predecessors to modern humans were. We don't know their physical characteristics, such as race, either. What if there were an ancient race of humans far more advanced than we are today?
I think what's more interesting is how desperate you and Tenerife are not to be African. Why you find the idea so repugnant is more illustrative of the entire issue of race than any discussion DNA.
For you guys this is a creation/evolution discussion. Not about fact but belief. Chosen belief. You choose to believe that you're not African because being African must be negative in some way.
Suffice it to say, I respectfully disagree.
Genetic studies and fossil evidence show that archaic Homo sapiens evolved to anatomically modern humans solely in Africa, between 200,000 and 60,000 years ago.
speakeasy said:scientific community
NY Digital said:Sharky Jackson said:You choose to believe that you're not African because being African must be negative in some way.
This is a terrible point.
Europeans are not Africans. Africans are not Asians. Native Americans are not Russians.
Timoteo said:In the eyes of many, we're still not seen as Americans.
The biggest problem is calling black people African American. No, they're just Americans.
My reasoning for your point is that since blacks are Africans in blood, the contrast to being from another continent can definitely be a reason for division.
Sharky Jackson said:BortimusPrime said:Incidentally, it's funny how in deep space nine they only let the black characters date other blacks, even to the point of making black aliens.
Umm....
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tylerdurden1993 said:Anyone else wondering why a porn star would be the face of a supposed "far right" party in the first place.
Lika said:speakeasy said:How did Africans manage to survive from the dawn of time up until 1500 before they ever saw a white person?
I spent years in African bushes. That's exactly what 95% of Africans do: survive from the dawn of time except in towns where there is (malfunctioning, badly maintained) Western "white" technology and science.
They survive in the bush, without electricity, no modern hygiene notions, many die young from terrible weird diseases (google noma, burkitt tumors, fistula), they walk 2-3 hours per day to get water. They live in close proximity of dirty animals in the houses. They have no latrines and they shit (liquid) around the house...
Funny thing, they are globally pretty happy![]()