Germany has gone insane

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Robin
Catholic
If you thought Merkel was bad... Now, equal representation of men and women in parliament may seem absurd to you, but remember that now you will be able to "change your gender" by declaration alone, so you can always declare as female if you want to meet the quota.



On a social level, the coalition treaty places huge emphasis on younger people. The voting age will be lowered to 16 not only for European elections but also for general polling. This is hardly surprising as both the Greens and the Liberals draw a significant proportion of their support from younger demographics, but it would require an amendment of the constitution, a much more radical change than the half-sentence dedicated to it suggests.

In terms of migration too, German society is in for a paradigm shift. The coalition treaty speaks of Germany as an ‘immigration society’ and wants to change the law accordingly. It promises to make the acquisition of German citizenship easier, increase the immigration of workers and enshrine the representation of diversity in law (without mentioning specifically what this will look like).

In addition, existing legislation regarding trans people will be replaced with a ‘self-declaration law’, which will allow everyone to change their gender by declaration alone. Gender reassignment surgery will be fully funded through the public health system. ‘Rainbow families’ will receive more support ‘especially in middle-size businesses and in the civil service’ but also in education, which is traditionally a devolved matter for the individual states.



In terms of energy, Germany will bank largely on renewables in the hope that the technology will develop accordingly. The nuclear power plants will be switched off next year, as planned. Coal will be phased out by 2030 (8 years earlier than previously planned) and of non-renewables only gas is deemed ‘indispensable for the foreseeable future’. However, the document contains no comments at all about Nord Stream 2, the controversial gas pipeline from Russia to Germany.

A selection of other announcements include the legalisation of cannabis, the banning of arms sales for specific conflicts, the return of museum objects to other countries, the acceleration of the accession of the Western Balkans into the EU and the even equal representation of male and female MPs in the Bundestag.
 

MartyMcFly

Kingfisher
Other Christian
To be fair, if you can be charged as an adult for a crime at 16 (I don't know German laws when it comes to this), you should also be treated like an adult in other issues like having the right to vote, join the military, drink alcohol, and smoke. The government stating you are mature enough to commit a crime and must be charged as an adult, but you are not mature enough to vote seems very hypocritical.

The rest of the ideas are awful but not a surprise. Many Germans are ashamed of themselves because of both world wars and they want to commit cultural suicide. As someone with German ancestry, this makes me sad but I no longer feel any sympathy for Germany. Nations with democracy deserve the leaders they elect. I just feel sorry for the Germans stuck there that want to preserve the real Germany. I know not all Germans support the idea of cultural suicide.

I find the fact that many homosexuals and transsexuals and feminists openly want Germany to become an Islamic republic (which will likely happen, many Islamic majority nations lack separation of religion and state) quite interesting. Will an Islamic-majority Germany support the rights of 'alternate sexualities'?
 

DeusLuxMeaEst

Pelican
Orthodox Catechumen
Gold Member
To be fair, if you can be charged as an adult for a crime at 16 (I don't know German laws when it comes to this), you should also be treated like an adult in other issues like having the right to vote, join the military, drink alcohol, and smoke. The government stating you are mature enough to commit a crime and must be charged as an adult, but you are not mature enough to vote seems very hypocritical.

The rest of the ideas are awful but not a surprise. Many Germans are ashamed of themselves because of both world wars and they want to commit cultural suicide. As someone with German ancestry, this makes me sad but I no longer feel any sympathy for Germany. Nations with democracy deserve the leaders they elect. I just feel sorry for the Germans stuck there that want to preserve the real Germany. I know not all Germans support the idea of cultural suicide.

I find the fact that many homosexuals and transsexuals and feminists openly want Germany to become an Islamic republic (which will likely happen, many Islamic majority nations lack separation of religion and state) quite interesting. Will an Islamic-majority Germany support the rights of 'alternate sexualities'?

Had to chuckle at that comment. They will be the first to 'disappear' under islamic law.
 

MartyMcFly

Kingfisher
Other Christian
They will be the first to 'dissappear' under islamic law.
I imagine they would be quite shocked considering they were so welcoming of refugees. Of course, they would likely still find a way to blame Christians and evil white non-Muslim white men for such actions.

This video predicts a civil war and is quite realistic. Overall, I like the video although I wish it didn't focus on color of skin (which is at the end). A black doctor from Jamaica is not the same as an Islamic terrorist from Morocco and there are plenty of blacks that have good values. Skin color is what we are born with and does not define us (despite what liberal propaganda states). However, religion is a value and so is being a member of ANTIFA. If you attend a mosque where the leader states that all non-believers must convert or die and you keep attending such services, you have dangerous values and deserve to be criticized.

 
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Feyoder

Pelican
However, the document contains no comments at all about Nord Stream 2, the controversial gas pipeline from Russia to Germany.

Not as nice to talk about the physical necessity of getting dirty old gas from russians.


How is there not more resistance to this? Especially the immigration.
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Hummingbird
Orthodox Inquirer
The ship is sinking - the West in general. Developments that were really set in place in the 60s, and have some origins too in eras like the enlightenment, have just been accelerated massively the last years due to technology and more effort by the oligarchs at the top. A few years ago in my political time, all into populism and all that stuff, I genuinely thought that we could turn the boat around. Now I see how deep the damage in the ship walls is also culturally/socially and how the water is clasping in, we can only leave ship and set up something new with those who want not to go down with the ship either. Sadly most will go down with it.
 

DeusLuxMeaEst

Pelican
Orthodox Catechumen
Gold Member
If a hypothetical civil war does descend on the continent, I'd expect the likes of Germany to fall or lose the will to fight first, same with France.

The British are mixed bag and I have hope. They were very resilient during WW2.

Countries like Spain, Italy, and Greece have cucked governments, but the native populations should put up stiff resistance against Islam.

The Eastern block countries would put up the most resistance.

Nobody knows the future but war seems plausible even likely in the next few decades.
 

Tradcatholic

Robin
Catholic
To be fair, if you can be charged as an adult for a crime at 16 (I don't know German laws when it comes to this), you should also be treated like an adult in other issues like having the right to vote, join the military, drink alcohol, and smoke. The government stating you are mature enough to commit a crime and must be charged as an adult, but you are not mature enough to vote seems very hypocritical.

The rest of the ideas are awful but not a surprise. Many Germans are ashamed of themselves because of both world wars and they want to commit cultural suicide. As someone with German ancestry, this makes me sad but I no longer feel any sympathy for Germany. Nations with democracy deserve the leaders they elect. I just feel sorry for the Germans stuck there that want to preserve the real Germany. I know not all Germans support the idea of cultural suicide.

I find the fact that many homosexuals and transsexuals and feminists openly want Germany to become an Islamic republic (which will likely happen, many Islamic majority nations lack separation of religion and state) quite interesting. Will an Islamic-majority Germany support the rights of 'alternate sexualities'
I'm pretty sure that teenagers under 18 are charged as minors in criminal cases, which makes lowering the voting age without increasing the responsibility rather absurd.
 

MartyMcFly

Kingfisher
Other Christian
I'm pretty sure that teenagers under 18 are charged as minors in criminal cases, which makes lowering the voting age without increasing the responsibility rather absurd.
I know in America, boys as young as 13 have been charged as adults (I included a famous example below). This means politicians think 13 year-olds are adults when it comes to this but still not capable of voting. Of course, a boy is an adult at 13 in some cases (usually only when it hurts him) but a girl is innocent and naïve until age 18 and then magically becomes ripe to be a sexual object. This is not my idea, it just seems to be typical American thinking-Europe might be different.

If Germans under 17 are ALWAYS charged as minors, then the voting age should be 18. Personally, I think teenagers should be better prepared to become adults and if properly raised, a 16 year old is capable of voting. Of course, even many 40 year-olds in modern society are too immature to vote, never mind teenagers.

 

Transsimian

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Tradcatholic

Robin
Catholic
I know in America, boys as young as 13 have been charged as adults (I included a famous example below). This means politicians think 13 year-olds are adults when it comes to this but still not capable of voting. Of course, a boy is an adult at 13 in some cases (usually only when it hurts him) but a girl is innocent and naïve until age 18 and then magically becomes ripe to be a sexual object. This is not my idea, it just seems to be typical American thinking-Europe might be different.

If Germans under 17 are ALWAYS charged as minors, then the voting age should be 18. Personally, I think teenagers should be better prepared to become adults and if properly raised, a 16 year old is capable of voting. Of course, even many 40 year-olds in modern society are too immature to vote, never mind teenagers.

I looked it up. Since 1953, under German law, those under 18 CANNOT be tried as adults for any crime. The maximum sentence they can receive is 10 years. On the other hand, they CAN be tried as juveniles up until the age of 21.

Combined with the point you raise about how we are raised to be immature in the modern West, the idea of giving these 16 year olds voting rights is absurd. It will just ensure leftist/green dominance for decades to come. But if we will "own nothing" in 2030, it would be weird if we still had voting rights.
 

Parmesan

Kingfisher
Other Christian
Had to chuckle at that comment. They will be the first to 'disappear' under islamic law.
My guess is they think Muslims are too stupid to lead or manage, so in their minds it just means Sharia for the plebs, while (as a favored class) they enjoy cushy positions in government and business, with pedo parties in their private communities, and glass high rises.

Germany falling would have implications to the world economy. A lot of the world’s precision industrial machines and components still come from Germany. I know in the industry I work in, virtually all the high end, complex, critical machinery is still manufactured there.
 
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MartyMcFly

Kingfisher
Other Christian
My guess is they think Muslims are too stupid to lead or manage, so in their minds it just means Sharia for the plebs, while (as a favored class) they enjoy cushy positions in government and business, with pedo parties in their private communities, and glass high rises.

Germany falling would have implications to the world economy. A lot of the world’s precision industrial machines and components still come from Germany. I know in the industry I work in, virtually all the high end, complex, critical machinery is still manufactured there.
In a few years, these companies will move to cheaper places such as China or Vietnam. Loyalty to one's nation will keep decreasing and fewer companies will care about manufacturing in their home nations. China is focusing more on developing higher end manufacturing as well as improving infrastructure.

You make a good point about the elites vs. others though. I remember a leader from Saudi Arabia openly admitting to watching 'Baywatch' even though this is forbidden in his nation. Muslim elites are just as corrupt as Christian ones despite claiming their religion is superior. For many elites, money is their true god.
 

GuitarVH

Kingfisher
Orthodox Inquirer
Well this backfired.



Yeah! Let's welcome invaders and destroyers of our own culture. Woo hoo!

Let's cheer on the dissolution of nearly 2000 years of Christian culture that included some of the greatest scientists, musicians and thinkers in human history.

Alright, high five everyone! We celebrate the lowest common denominator in life. That is our strength!

What a bunch of stupid dummies.
 

Parmesan

Kingfisher
Other Christian
Yeah! Let's welcome invaders and destroyers of our own culture. Woo hoo!

Let's cheer on the dissolution of nearly 2000 years of Christian culture that included some of the greatest scientists, musicians and thinkers in human history.

Alright, high five everyone! We celebrate the lowest common denominator in life. That is our strength!

What a bunch of stupid dummies.
They are cheering the the invasion and downfall of more successful, white Germans (their perceived competition). By welcoming an underclass of brown people, these incompetent (liberal) white Germans assume said brown people will enhance power and loyalty to the white savior liberals, who will enjoy assuming the reigns of government and business, as low IQ brown refugees attack successful white Germans through street violence and hostile regulatory, tax, and legal regimes.
 
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