Germany thread

[holgerdanske]

I happen to speak German as a 2nd language and although I haven't been in the country in many decades I've monitored its slow slide into a Marxist Globalists hellhole from afar. If you believe that things may have a snowball's chance of improving after Merkel's departure you are sadly mistaken. Here's a recent snapshot of the Welt Zeitung, which back in the days used to be a middle of the road conservative newspaper:

It's been auto-translated but you get the gist I'm sure. The greens, although being an etenal minority party, continue to hold huge sway over the mainstream media. I once saw a statistics that over 80% of German journalists either belong or are sympathetic to the Green party. Which is a phenomenon, or should I say strategy, that we increasingly see across the entire Western hemisphere.

I think Germany is a prime example of the expression that politics is downstream of culture. When I was last there in the 1990s these headlines would have incited public outrage and heads would have rolled. But over the course of 30 years the entire country has gradually been transformed into liberal uni-culture that does not permit wrong-think and penalizes dissidents aggressively.

 

[Stadtaffe]

I also speak German but not as a first language. it is not the worst or most far gone place in the liberal West, but it is certainly not based. Is worth keeping well away from the MSM, or as they like to call it „Öffentlich-rechtlicher Rundfunk“. I almost never look at it. There is another word for it starting with "L" but in the interests of political correctness I will avoid mentioning it. There is a lot of German language press outside that the mainstream which is more based.

 

[holgerdanske]

I also speak German but not as a first language. it is not the worst or most far gone place in the liberal West, but it is certainly not based. Is worth keeping well away from the MSM, or as they like to call it „Öffentlich-rechtlicher Rundfunk“. I almost never look at it. There is another word for it starting with "L" but in the interests of political correctness I will avoid mentioning it. There is a lot of German language press outside that the mainstream which is more based.

Does it rhyme with Flügenpresse? ;-)

 

[Stadtaffe]

Does it rhyme with Flügenpresse? ;-)

Funny that, it does!.. Probably the Russia Today in German is the simplest go-to source for news centered for that region - https://de.rt.com/ It is a bit tabloid in a Russian kind of way which I like, some other non-mainstream German news sites I find a bit academic, longwinded, dry or boring. Can't get into pages of political or philosophical analysis in any language.

 

[Stadtaffe]

Should reference this one here :

Volkswagon Emissions Scandal and German self loathing

Am I the only one who doesn't care about the whole Volkswagon emission cheating debacle? I've been seeing articles about how this scandal has brought great shame to Germany and how the name, "Made in Germany" can no longer be trusted. Are you kidding me? So what if Volkswagon cheated on...

www.rooshvforum.com

..a reminder of when Germany took aim and shot itself in the foot. Automotive being one of the most significant industries with so many well known brands, they just had to find a way to feel guilty about it.

A few years before that after Fukushima, they decided that they needed to virtue signal by switching off remaining nuclear power stations, but then importing nuclear generated electricity from France.

When will the guilt about the world war(s) be used up..

I'm in a slight bother about misplaced or misapplied environmentalism now, will post about it in a relevant thread, but these thoughts about the Vaterland were worth mentioning.

 

[Stadtaffe]

Germany Wants To Force Gab To Censor, It’s Not Happening

This week we received a huge packet of documents with fines and legal threats from the nation state of Germany. Gab is refusing, and has refused for many years, to comply with the German Network Enforcement Act. Gab is a US company and as such we are under zero obligation...

news.gab.com

 

[Bird]

I've monitored its slow slide into a Marxist Globalists hellhole from afar.

Let me guess, Germany is bad because the MSM publishes leftist crap? Give me a break.

 

[Tradcatholic]

If you thought Merkel was bad... Now, equal representation of men and women in parliament may seem absurd to you, but remember that now you will be able to "change your gender" by declaration alone, so you can always declare as female if you want to meet the quota.

Germany's new Government surrenders to identity politics

Habemus chancellor! There is white smoke over Berlin as the new German government concluded its coalition talks and announced its agenda for the next four years. If you expected a slight tilt to the Left from Merkelism, think again: Germany is in for a radical overhaul. [...]Read More...

unherd.com

On a social level, the coalition treaty places huge emphasis on younger people. The voting age will be lowered to 16 not only for European elections but also for general polling. This is hardly surprising as both the Greens and the Liberals draw a significant proportion of their support from younger demographics, but it would require an amendment of the constitution, a much more radical change than the half-sentence dedicated to it suggests.

In terms of migration too, German society is in for a paradigm shift. The coalition treaty speaks of Germany as an ‘immigration society’ and wants to change the law accordingly. It promises to make the acquisition of German citizenship easier, increase the immigration of workers and enshrine the representation of diversity in law (without mentioning specifically what this will look like).

In addition, existing legislation regarding trans people will be replaced with a ‘self-declaration law’, which will allow everyone to change their gender by declaration alone. Gender reassignment surgery will be fully funded through the public health system. ‘Rainbow families’ will receive more support ‘especially in middle-size businesses and in the civil service’ but also in education, which is traditionally a devolved matter for the individual states.



In terms of energy, Germany will bank largely on renewables in the hope that the technology will develop accordingly. The nuclear power plants will be switched off next year, as planned. Coal will be phased out by 2030 (8 years earlier than previously planned) and of non-renewables only gas is deemed ‘indispensable for the foreseeable future’. However, the document contains no comments at all about Nord Stream 2, the controversial gas pipeline from Russia to Germany.

A selection of other announcements include the legalisation of cannabis, the banning of arms sales for specific conflicts, the return of museum objects to other countries, the acceleration of the accession of the Western Balkans into the EU and the even equal representation of male and female MPs in the Bundestag.

 

[MartyMcFly]

To be fair, if you can be charged as an adult for a crime at 16 (I don't know German laws when it comes to this), you should also be treated like an adult in other issues like having the right to vote, join the military, drink alcohol, and smoke. The government stating you are mature enough to commit a crime and must be charged as an adult, but you are not mature enough to vote seems very hypocritical.

The rest of the ideas are awful but not a surprise. Many Germans are ashamed of themselves because of both world wars and they want to commit cultural suicide. As someone with German ancestry, this makes me sad but I no longer feel any sympathy for Germany. Nations with democracy deserve the leaders they elect. I just feel sorry for the Germans stuck there that want to preserve the real Germany. I know not all Germans support the idea of cultural suicide.

I find the fact that many homosexuals and transsexuals and feminists openly want Germany to become an Islamic republic (which will likely happen, many Islamic majority nations lack separation of religion and state) quite interesting. Will an Islamic-majority Germany support the rights of 'alternate sexualities'?

 

[DeusLuxMeaEst]

To be fair, if you can be charged as an adult for a crime at 16 (I don't know German laws when it comes to this), you should also be treated like an adult in other issues like having the right to vote, join the military, drink alcohol, and smoke. The government stating you are mature enough to commit a crime and must be charged as an adult, but you are not mature enough to vote seems very hypocritical.

The rest of the ideas are awful but not a surprise. Many Germans are ashamed of themselves because of both world wars and they want to commit cultural suicide. As someone with German ancestry, this makes me sad but I no longer feel any sympathy for Germany. Nations with democracy deserve the leaders they elect. I just feel sorry for the Germans stuck there that want to preserve the real Germany. I know not all Germans support the idea of cultural suicide.

I find the fact that many homosexuals and transsexuals and feminists openly want Germany to become an Islamic republic (which will likely happen, many Islamic majority nations lack separation of religion and state) quite interesting. Will an Islamic-majority Germany support the rights of 'alternate sexualities'?

Had to chuckle at that comment. They will be the first to 'disappear' under islamic law.

 

[El Draque]

Sounds like a literal nightmare.

 

[MartyMcFly]

They will be the first to 'dissappear' under islamic law.

I imagine they would be quite shocked considering they were so welcoming of refugees. Of course, they would likely still find a way to blame Christians and evil white non-Muslim white men for such actions.

This video predicts a civil war and is quite realistic. Overall, I like the video although I wish it didn't focus on color of skin (which is at the end). A black doctor from Jamaica is not the same as an Islamic terrorist from Morocco and there are plenty of blacks that have good values. Skin color is what we are born with and does not define us (despite what liberal propaganda states). However, religion is a value and so is being a member of ANTIFA. If you attend a mosque where the leader states that all non-believers must convert or die and you keep attending such services, you have dangerous values and deserve to be criticized.

 

[Feyoder]

However, the document contains no comments at all about Nord Stream 2, the controversial gas pipeline from Russia to Germany.

Not as nice to talk about the physical necessity of getting dirty old gas from russians.


How is there not more resistance to this? Especially the immigration.

 

[Viktor Zeegelaar]

The ship is sinking - the West in general. Developments that were really set in place in the 60s, and have some origins too in eras like the enlightenment, have just been accelerated massively the last years due to technology and more effort by the oligarchs at the top. A few years ago in my political time, all into populism and all that stuff, I genuinely thought that we could turn the boat around. Now I see how deep the damage in the ship walls is also culturally/socially and how the water is clasping in, we can only leave ship and set up something new with those who want not to go down with the ship either. Sadly most will go down with it.

 

[DeusLuxMeaEst]

If a hypothetical civil war does descend on the continent, I'd expect the likes of Germany to fall or lose the will to fight first, same with France.

The British are mixed bag and I have hope. They were very resilient during WW2.

Countries like Spain, Italy, and Greece have cucked governments, but the native populations should put up stiff resistance against Islam.

The Eastern block countries would put up the most resistance.

Nobody knows the future but war seems plausible even likely in the next few decades.

 

[Tradcatholic]

To be fair, if you can be charged as an adult for a crime at 16 (I don't know German laws when it comes to this), you should also be treated like an adult in other issues like having the right to vote, join the military, drink alcohol, and smoke. The government stating you are mature enough to commit a crime and must be charged as an adult, but you are not mature enough to vote seems very hypocritical.

The rest of the ideas are awful but not a surprise. Many Germans are ashamed of themselves because of both world wars and they want to commit cultural suicide. As someone with German ancestry, this makes me sad but I no longer feel any sympathy for Germany. Nations with democracy deserve the leaders they elect. I just feel sorry for the Germans stuck there that want to preserve the real Germany. I know not all Germans support the idea of cultural suicide.

I find the fact that many homosexuals and transsexuals and feminists openly want Germany to become an Islamic republic (which will likely happen, many Islamic majority nations lack separation of religion and state) quite interesting. Will an Islamic-majority Germany support the rights of 'alternate sexualities'

I'm pretty sure that teenagers under 18 are charged as minors in criminal cases, which makes lowering the voting age without increasing the responsibility rather absurd.

 

[Tradcatholic]

Not as nice to talk about the physical necessity of getting dirty old gas from russians.


How is there not more resistance to this? Especially the immigration.

Eventually, there will be, as the consequences become apparent. By then, it may be too late.

 

[Tradcatholic]

After the "museum objects" are returned to African countries, the African countries may try to sell them back to Germany.

 

[MartyMcFly]

I'm pretty sure that teenagers under 18 are charged as minors in criminal cases, which makes lowering the voting age without increasing the responsibility rather absurd.

I know in America, boys as young as 13 have been charged as adults (I included a famous example below). This means politicians think 13 year-olds are adults when it comes to this but still not capable of voting. Of course, a boy is an adult at 13 in some cases (usually only when it hurts him) but a girl is innocent and naïve until age 18 and then magically becomes ripe to be a sexual object. This is not my idea, it just seems to be typical American thinking-Europe might be different.

If Germans under 17 are ALWAYS charged as minors, then the voting age should be 18. Personally, I think teenagers should be better prepared to become adults and if properly raised, a 16 year old is capable of voting. Of course, even many 40 year-olds in modern society are too immature to vote, never mind teenagers.

Cristian Fernandez, 13-year-old Fla. boy, faces life in prison for allegedly murdering his 2-year-old half-brother

Cristian Fernandez is just 13, but has been charged as an adult in the death of his 2-year-old half brother

www.cbsnews.com

 

[El Draque]

Well this backfired.