Germany thread

holgerdanske

Woodpecker
Catholic
I happen to speak German as a 2nd language and although I haven't been in the country in many decades I've monitored its slow slide into a Marxist Globalists hellhole from afar. If you believe that things may have a snowball's chance of improving after Merkel's departure you are sadly mistaken. Here's a recent snapshot of the Welt Zeitung, which back in the days used to be a middle of the road conservative newspaper:

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It's been auto-translated but you get the gist I'm sure. The greens, although being an etenal minority party, continue to hold huge sway over the mainstream media. I once saw a statistics that over 80% of German journalists either belong or are sympathetic to the Green party. Which is a phenomenon, or should I say strategy, that we increasingly see across the entire Western hemisphere.

I think Germany is a prime example of the expression that politics is downstream of culture. When I was last there in the 1990s these headlines would have incited public outrage and heads would have rolled. But over the course of 30 years the entire country has gradually been transformed into liberal uni-culture that does not permit wrong-think and penalizes dissidents aggressively.
 

Stadtaffe

Kingfisher
Orthodox
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I also speak German but not as a first language. it is not the worst or most far gone place in the liberal West, but it is certainly not based. Is worth keeping well away from the MSM, or as they like to call it „Öffentlich-rechtlicher Rundfunk“. I almost never look at it. There is another word for it starting with "L" but in the interests of political correctness I will avoid mentioning it. There is a lot of German language press outside that the mainstream which is more based.
 

holgerdanske

Woodpecker
Catholic
I also speak German but not as a first language. it is not the worst or most far gone place in the liberal West, but it is certainly not based. Is worth keeping well away from the MSM, or as they like to call it „Öffentlich-rechtlicher Rundfunk“. I almost never look at it. There is another word for it starting with "L" but in the interests of political correctness I will avoid mentioning it. There is a lot of German language press outside that the mainstream which is more based.
Does it rhyme with Flügenpresse? ;-)
 

Stadtaffe

Kingfisher
Orthodox
Gold Member
Does it rhyme with Flügenpresse? ;-)
Funny that, it does!.. Probably the Russia Today in German is the simplest go-to source for news centered for that region - https://de.rt.com/ It is a bit tabloid in a Russian kind of way which I like, some other non-mainstream German news sites I find a bit academic, longwinded, dry or boring. Can't get into pages of political or philosophical analysis in any language.
 

Stadtaffe

Kingfisher
Orthodox
Gold Member
Should reference this one here :


..a reminder of when Germany took aim and shot itself in the foot. Automotive being one of the most significant industries with so many well known brands, they just had to find a way to feel guilty about it.

A few years before that after Fukushima, they decided that they needed to virtue signal by switching off remaining nuclear power stations, but then importing nuclear generated electricity from France.

When will the guilt about the world war(s) be used up..

I'm in a slight bother about misplaced or misapplied environmentalism now, will post about it in a relevant thread, but these thoughts about the Vaterland were worth mentioning.
 

Stadtaffe

Kingfisher
Orthodox
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There is something that is quite mainstream in Germany and I don't know if it exists anywhere else, and if it does whether it is mainstream or just a niche activity - "EMS training"

There are studios where you put on a suit and your muscles are given electric shocks so that you can build muscle without all (or as much) weight lifting effort.
I met a few people who actually did this.. Not sure if I am just closed-minded, or enjoy weights too much but it seems quite an abhorent idea. Very unnatural. Lifting weights is something you do in your day to day life anyway, carrying luggage, children etc so what you do in a gym, cardio as well is just a focussing in on natural activities. Obviously modern life is not as naturally physical anyway so it makes sense to compensate with gyms and sport.

But how about skipping all that and just putting on a suit and shocking yourself instead? Is this just Germany or does this go on in your neighbourhood as well..
 

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
There is something that is quite mainstream in Germany and I don't know if it exists anywhere else, and if it does whether it is mainstream or just a niche activity - "EMS training"

There are studios where you put on a suit and your muscles are given electric shocks so that you can build muscle without all (or as much) weight lifting effort.
I met a few people who actually did this.. Not sure if I am just closed-minded, or enjoy weights too much but it seems quite an abhorent idea. Very unnatural. Lifting weights is something you do in your day to day life anyway, carrying luggage, children etc so what you do in a gym, cardio as well is just a focussing in on natural activities. Obviously modern life is not as naturally physical anyway so it makes sense to compensate with gyms and sport.

But how about skipping all that and just putting on a suit and shocking yourself instead? Is this just Germany or does this go on in your neighbourhood as well..
For some reason, I pictured this as wearing a suit and tie. I pictured guys in their suit and tie, having electrodes connected to them. Now I realize it's a body suit with the electrodes built in.

Seems pretty weird to me!
 

GuitarVH

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
There are studios where you put on a suit and your muscles are given electric shocks so that you can build muscle without all (or as much) weight lifting effort.

I'm curious - does this work at all? If so, how does it compare to lifting weights for muscle building?

Disclaimer - I work out a few times a week and will not be planning to try this.
 

Kiwi

Kingfisher
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Having lived in the east of Germany for a few years I would say the Saxony regions are (or were) still red-pilled.
How organised they are or efficient against any globalist agenda I have no idea.

So much of Germany comes down to WW2 being ingrained in their culture.
A kind of "guilt debt" passed on between generations. Sins of The Fatherland.


Most shame or guilt takes a certain kind of courage to overcome, but as a German, it's hard to forgive yourself.
In other words, that guilt is part of being a German these days. A birthright, in some sense.
I think that's why you see the extreme virtue signalling of German politicians, and at the same time throwing those who voted for them under the bus, in a sacrificial way. So much for democracy!

A German will fight to make amends for WW2 but i'm not sure they'll fight to preserve their country, because their identity is so troubled.
But I could be wrong...
It's been about 5 years since I lived there, and heck, New Zealand is not much better.
 
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Stadtaffe

Kingfisher
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I'm curious - does this work at all? If so, how does it compare to lifting weights for muscle building?
I don't know, but the guy I used to work with who used to regularly go was perhaps defined but not bulky. I'm sure if this was the latest thing for competitive weightlifters or bodybuilders we'd know about it.

By the way, there will typically be a shopfront with a completely transparent glass so passers by can observe the wonderful electric activity as they walk past.
In other words, that guilt is part of being a German these days. A birthright, in some sense.
They probably can't bring themselves to really get mad about the pipelines, as they can rationalise that they deserved it somehow.
 

tiikaa

Sparrow
Cmon guys Germany and its society has severe problems but I dont think EMS-Training is one of them..
(I am german)

EMS Training is just a different method to "exercise" different parts of muscle tissue in the body.. there are some parts that you just don't get to exercise well in a gym .. i have tried it once and found out it works like you really feel tired afterwards and your muscles will feel it too like after an intense workout .. so the electrodes really stimulate the tissue .. whether that is "the key" to get fit or to become strong I doubt that but it's a nice idea and it saves time.. it's rather expensive unfortunately.
There is also no dividing in society between wolves and normal ppl regarding the EMS training like there is with other topics...

so I don't see the problem with it .. it's like arguing about "should 3x3 streetball really be an Olympic sport besides traditional basketball?" -- and deriving from that a country has serious issues..

No, we have many issues and problems going on in Germany and yes, our politicians and big part of society are completely insane but not because of 0,03% of the population going to EMS training once a week ...
 

Mercury

Sparrow
Catholic
Having lived in the east of Germany for a few years I would say the Saxony regions are (or were) still red-pilled.
How organised they are or efficient against any globalist agenda I have no idea.

So much of Germany comes down to WW2 being ingrained in their culture.
A kind of "guilt debt" passed on between generations. Sins of The Fatherland.


Most shame or guilt takes a certain kind of courage to overcome, but as a German, it's hard to forgive yourself.
In other words, that guilt is part of being a German these days. A birthright, in some sense.
I think that's why you see the extreme virtue signalling of German politicians, and at the same time throwing those who voted for them under the bus, in a sacrificial way. So much for democracy!

A German will fight to make amends for WW2 but i'm not sure they'll fight to preserve their country, because their identity is so troubled.
But I could be wrong...
It's been about 5 years since I lived there, and heck, New Zealand is not much better.
Saxony is anti-immigration and the biggest stronghold of AfD(the German far right). However, both AfD and Saxony are soulless in the fact they are both pretty athiest.

I'll pick on AfD first. I could get behind them more if they flew a banner of traditional German values/Christian nationalism but their stance is anti-immigrant, LBGT civil unions vs. marriage, no global warming and nationalist. None of their leadership is even nominally traditional or religious. Even Alice Weidel is lesbian. They are more defined by what they are against vs. what they are for. They missed a golden opportunity in the 2021 elections with their slogan "Germany. But Normal." All they had to do was fight the draconian covid policies and could have done much better. Instead they started to include everything they wanted under the tent of normal.

I was in Saxony last month for a concert and just found the place broken. The place was poor looking but the people also looked empty. I told my friend this is the place that hope left behind. Small towns in Bulgaria had more spirit than here.

I lived in Bavaria until last year- the situation is better there. We attended mass weekly in a small town of about 3,500. There were 3 masses - for a heavily Catholic town we had a total of 300 people who attended regularly(>10%). There were many times my child was the only one in there and we were the youngest people in the church. Most folks are culturally Catholic, meaning they pay the church tax and their kids attend the major life events (confession, baptism, marriage) but they only attend at Easter and Christmas. Roadside shrines are well maintained. The bishops and priests were fairly based but largely as the WWII population died out Church attendance plummeted. As the boomers die the church will largely be hallowed out.

The worst behaviors (the trans movement particularly) has yet to infect more rural areas but has made more headway in major towns. Folks have been trained to depend on the government so made a deal with the devil- they continue to vote for political parties that undermine them via immigration and liberal social movements (CDU, CSU, SPD) in exchange for government benefits. Any party outside the major triad to the right is a threat to those benefits.
 
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Mercury

Sparrow
Catholic
By the way- war guilt is an interesting thing and a lesson learned for the globalists on how to attack those values. When they ran the tests of how well de-nazification did in the 1950s it was found that it was pretty much a failure. Most folks that were pretty aligned with those values still saw Hitler as a pretty good leader (except for a few mistakes).

It was the pivot in the education system that did the best job of changing how people thought and their values. The previous generations would just age out. For a western culture that has no patience or no long term vision, the left definitely played the long game here to win.

WWII values were eventually associated with everything bad with the country including traditional religious values. We are now into the 3rd generation absorbing those lessons.
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
Over a million men use prostitution every day in Germany.

Western Europe is rife with prostitution, 90 percent from Eastern Europe. Romanian, Polish, Hungarian, Russian and Ukrainian mostly. Especially Romanian prostitution is well known also in other parts of the world such as Dubai - which is sad given that 99% of people there identify as Orthodox. Same goes for prostitution in Eastern Europe itself by the way - cities like Prague and Budapest are open air brothels.
 
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