Girl Ignores Tinder Guy, He Beats Michael Phelps For Gold And She Attention-Whores

[jkray_]

RE: Girl Ignores Tinder Guy, He Beats Michael Phelps For Gold And She Attention-Whore

A great example in a nustshell why social media is such a complete disaster. Women thrive on attention. Being recognized socially as "someone" is literally the female lifeblood: because historically, without it women were completely helpless. A woman without any social connections - without a strong support system around her - was most likely completely destitute and not long for this world (this is why charity for widows was always emphasized). Thus women are designed with an innate proclivity to attention whore. Their very survival depends on being noticed and valued by other people.

Social media is harmful because it hijacks and amplifies this intrinsic need for attention. Rather than trying to gain the attention of the people in her immediate surroundings, women are now free to attention whore to the entire world. The corollary to this: she is also now competing in the attention sweepstakes with every other woman in the world! Thus begins an attention whoring arms race among women, resulting in an increasing thirst and desperation for attention and a constant trend of one-upsmanship.

This is how you end up with women like this - a complete nobody - desperately projecting the flimsiest rationale for attention to the world. "Look at me! I had a text exchange on a sex app with a guy who is currently appearing on TV and enjoying his 15 minutes of fame!" In her mind, this simple text exchange validates her existence as "somebody" in the modern world. She is not interested in being recognized by her family and community as a loving wife and mother, as a good neighbor, as a kind and cheerful friend. She is not interested in the accolades and social approbation earned by a life well-lived. She is not interested in establishing a good reputation in the eyes of those who have known her for years.

Instead, she bases her self-worth on the most fleeting attention possible - the passing glances of millions of anonymous eyeballs on social media platforms. And so when her chance finally arrives, she takes it. She, previously just another anonymous social media eyeball, is now, in this one fleeting moment, the star of the show. She basks in the glow of the attention, the pleasure she receives from knowing that so many people must now validate her existence: near-orgasmic. She is someone. In this case, she is just a girl that an Olympic gold medalist matched on Tinder. But that's enough for her. She'll take it. She'll broadcast it proudly to the world, because in the land of social media, the only currency that matters is attention.

What we're witnessing with social media is similar to the phenomenon of alpha widowing. Just as a woman who has previously given herself emotionally and physically to an alpha male can no longer be truly satisfied with a "lesser" man, so it is with attention. Women who have experienced the intoxicating hit of concentrated social approval and attention they can receive on social media are no longer interested in pursuing the more mundane social accolades they could receive by traditional means. Why bake your boyfriend a cake when you could take a selfie showing off your ass? The former only generates the attention and approval of one man, while the latter could generate it from thousands or millions (or more modestly for most women, a few dozen, which is still to be preferred in the female mind as far superior to one).

Traditionally pro-social female behavior has thus been abandoned in favor of social media attention whoring as the preferred method for women to gain and demonstrate social status.

:clap2:

The best post I have read on this forum.

 

[Kid Twist]

It just shows that women are not the flawless judges of male attractiveness we sometimes give them credit for. Whether online, in a bar, or on the street, they form opinions of every man from everything that she can see. Online, that (below average) girl could only see a picture and his two shitty messages. She is not psychic and did not know he was to be an Olympic gold medallist and famous for a few weeks. The moment she knew she regretted not responding. Of course she also posted it for attention. It's doubtful she could lock down a guy like that, especially with gold medal status now, so the next best thing is to broadcast "I rejected Olympic gold medallist OMG", bask in the attention and make herself feel a bit better because on some deep level she knows she is unattractive and basic.

Really insightful. It's almost like a runaway process now. Think of it, all these paradoxes ... How many times have you told yourself "There's no way I would approach this girl in real life" with any hint or real meaning to try to get with her in any capacity. But yet I'm not sure that even 10% are aware of that, that for all intents and purposes, we all found out that overswiping (if not total right all day, all night) is easiest in a meaningless internet world.

Also, are they not aware that it's still a hookup type app and not a dating one, as they want it to be mostly?

For this reason I've come to the conclusion that SA has at least that understanding and draw --- namely that it's a true qualification in that if you actually select someone, you are in some way interested and both parties know the "it" and what it is --- while apps are girls trying to act like people want them for anything other than an easy lay (in general), or at least a try to capitalize in a hamster lapse in judgment.

 

[Tayo]

It is a normal thing.

 

[Dusty]

She looks like a fat doey 5. She rejects a cut olympian.

Fuck online dating.

[img=900x500]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqBfnF3UMAAlPLe.jpg[/img]

 

[NapoleonDynamighty]

The girl made a tongue in cheek comment half hoping it gets her a few retweets . I see the beta - herds of sheep - of a generation as the real problem here . People are so bored out of their fucking mind with very little creative aspirations that they need some new shit everyday to share , read , get trending . All the retweets and attention this bitch got I bet you not a single one came from someone with half a brain and a life ! These are the same lot that follows Keeping up with the Kardashians and are fangirling semi pros on TV . Their life's greatest achievement was sharing a tweet that they help get viral .

The fact that a average ugly bird like that ignores a fella like the 8 pack singaporean athlete is also down to the countries culture, his ethnicity and his poor gaming skills as pointed out by many already .

Time and place has a lot to do with it. If he was a black guy in London with the same physique on tinder he would have proper 9s begging him to come fuck them on a sunday morning . How do I know ? I have experimented on tinder with locations and photos of different ethnic guys to see what works and where . As someone who can pass as a latino , black, north african and east Indian I check the water out on tinder to see which angle to play in a particular country or city .

Having grown up in London it is a city where brothers get immense love and there's a ever increasing number of once you go black groupies in UK . It's like Newyork , where a girl moving from the suburbs or a Eastern European country (or Spain or any country without a significant amount of black population ) the first thing they do to get themselmves a "cosmopolitan girl" status is date a black guy .

Similarly almost every western country girls are reluctant towards dating Oriental men . Most girls I have met, known or dated and had a discussion on her dating preferences would straight give it to me "anyone but Japanese or chinese" by which they just mean oriental in a broader sense . I always wondered why this was the case . I can understand with Indian men it's often used to be a matter of style or grooming as a lot of Indian village or small town guys have very awkward dress sense and long hair and moustache and what not . However oriental men are traditionally trendy, hip and fashionable and girls love that right ?

After lots of frank honest discussions with an array of women I conclude it's because of the cliches built up . Straight hair , lanky physique and smaller cock (allegedly) portrays lack of masculinity to most women . White men love oriental girls because they are petite , feminine and with tight pussy (allegedly) . White women love black men because they are physical specimen , alpha and with big cocks (allegedly) .

Things are what they are and they are not going to get better anytime soon . We as individuals white, black, brown or yellow are always compensating and fighting the stereotypes . A guy like the Singaporean olympian would kill it in a Oriental country or latin america or even some parts of EU where girls are more open to exotic and are not feminist bitches who wants a mandingo to replace her sex toy .

 

[Onto]

'Sphere dudes like to say that all our problems started with women joining the workforce, but this is not so; in fact, the first couple of decades of women joining the workforce were a kind of paradise, an arrangement which made both sexes very content: women were able to have a place to go to every day where they could perform some simple tasks and gossip and socialize to their heart's content, and men were given the distraction of having women around them in jobs where they could be of some use and could introduce pleasant variety and light intrigue to their days.

The time when the arrangement started going bad came later -- not when feminism told women to take a job, but when it convinced them (and everyone else) that they need to "lean in" and become "fucking great scientists". There is really no need for all women to go back to tending to their families 24/7 (and modern technology makes such a conception obsolete in any case)

I agree with some of what you said, but the problem we have today is we live in a society where women don't need men. They can earn their own money which gives them the freedom they need and they don't have to be a manager or great scientist to accomplish this. Any 30k year job in a small city will give them that, and many jobs pay a lot more.

They can also have a kid(s) out of wedlock and get paid well for that too. Get divorced and get paid even better.

Our culture not only provides them with real financial freedom but actually incentivizes and celebrates women to live without men.

Go to a country where women depend on men/family for food and shelter and we see their relation to men is much, much different than it is here.

 

[Tim in real life]

As for regular dudes in Singapore, the laws on female honour there are horrendous. Calling a woman a slut can get you a jail-term.

Safe to say the white knighting there in Singapore stemmed from its previous status as a British colony. :dodgy: No surprise here from me.

Back on topic, well-earned by Schooling.

As for that Tinderella, enjoy.

 

[N°6]

"This is my greatest accomplishment."

MY greatest accomplishment. Am I missing something? What did she accomplish? He accomplished something, not her.

Men love to win, women love winners.

Once in a while, a thread is posted which just about says it all. This thread is one of them.

Imagine a man who is a 6 ignoring an Olympian on the beach volleyball team.

 

[Latinopan]

I've actually have heard this sort of thing from various women over the years.

Most commonly, they make a reference to some vague rich guy they dated.

"Oh, I dated this surgeon/guy with a boat/guy who owned a construction company/son of someone who owns a restaurant chain/Hollywood producer/son of a political figure"

It's always brought up in casual fashion but always said in a tone like I should be impress or give a shit. I don't care of course; I only care in the sense that she is obviously a dumbass to try to impress me with her past bang history.

For some of these chicks though, it quite obvious that banging a on-paper alpha was a big deal and a major point of pride for them.

I know chicks can turn into alpha-widows post-bang but I wonder if chicks like this tinder twat can be alpha-widows without the bang or even a date? Perhaps so.

Is because women tend to project themselves on men, they imagine men like in women what women like in men, women like high status men therefore they think by telling other men they fucked a very high status men you will find her more attractive, imagine you are sitting on a coffee shop with a girl and you star telling her about others girls with bigger tits and better ass than her you fucked in the past, it would not make sense to bring that up but is the same women do.

 

[spi]

RE: Girl Ignores Tinder Guy, He Beats Michael Phelps For Gold And She Attention-Whore

Imagine a man who is a 6 ignoring an Olympian on the beach volleyball team.

Thats how fucking messed up the smp is.

Is this for real? In what kind of fucked up smp are women like that ghosting athletes who are literally the BEST IN THE WORLD in their sport?

Here is the guy's actual girlfriend

At least he knows his level. Dude was just looking for something extra.

I'm just flabbergasted - what would it take for a guy to not get ghosted? Even though his game was poor, I'm astounded that even a chubster like her has such a narrow margin for error, it is like skating on a knife edge.

 

[Razor Beast]

I'm just flabbergasted - what would it take for a guy to not get ghosted? Even though his game was poor, I'm astounded that even a chubster like her has such a narrow margin for error, it is like skating on a knife edge.

That guy's game wasn't poor, he had zero game. His opener was piss poor. Being an unknown athlete isn't going to get you very far. Let's be real, the guy would never get laid and be the classic orbiter if he wasn't famous in some way. Being a professional athlete =/= having alpha traits that attract women.

 

[realologist]

RE: Girl Ignores Tinder Guy, He Beats Michael Phelps For Gold And She Attention-Whor

I'm just flabbergasted - what would it take for a guy to not get ghosted? Even though his game was poor, I'm astounded that even a chubster like her has such a narrow margin for error, it is like skating on a knife edge.

That guy's game wasn't poor, he had zero game. His opener was piss poor. Being an unknown athlete isn't going to get you very far. Let's be real, the guy would never get laid and be the classic orbiter if he wasn't famous in some way. Being a professional athlete =/= having alpha traits that attract women.

Being a famous athlete only equals having alpha traits in getting laid. They are not equal in handling women for extended periods of time either as fuck buddies or in a relationship. That's why you see athletes getting played by random thots all the time.

 

[R_Niko]

I'm just flabbergasted - what would it take for a guy to not get ghosted? Even though his game was poor, I'm astounded that even a chubster like her has such a narrow margin for error, it is like skating on a knife edge.

That guy's game wasn't poor, he had zero game. His opener was piss poor. Being an unknown athlete isn't going to get you very far. Let's be real, the guy would never get laid and be the classic orbiter if he wasn't famous in some way. Being a professional athlete =/= having alpha traits that attract women.

When you're a dude who's an 8-9 approaching a woman who's a 5-6 you shouldn't expect her to be so picky

 

[Razor Beast]

I'm just flabbergasted - what would it take for a guy to not get ghosted? Even though his game was poor, I'm astounded that even a chubster like her has such a narrow margin for error, it is like skating on a knife edge.

That guy's game wasn't poor, he had zero game. His opener was piss poor. Being an unknown athlete isn't going to get you very far. Let's be real, the guy would never get laid and be the classic orbiter if he wasn't famous in some way. Being a professional athlete =/= having alpha traits that attract women.

When you're a dude who's an 8-9 approaching a woman who's a 5-6 you shouldn't expect her to be so picky

An 8-9 in what sense? His body is probably slightly leaner than the average guy at my college gym. Plus body is way less important to girls than it is to guys. It's all about the face with them.

She's probably already fucking a couple guys who looked as good as he does but they're just more alpha. His opener was terrible and she nexted him instantly. Seems pretty standard to me. She probably didn't know he was a pro athlete.

 

[SamuelBRoberts]

"An 8-9 in what sense? His body is probably slightly leaner than the average guy at my college gym."

He literally has the body of an Olympic athlete.

 

[N°6]

Assuming that the swimmer is an 8 (without his Olympic achievements being known), his online SMV like most men, is at least two notches lower than his actual SMV in real life. OKC women find 80% of online men below average in SMV. The swimmer is below average online. Since Tinder was monetised, it is going the way of traditional dating sites (average women, single mothers, older woman hook ups).

Conversely, women's SMV increases by at least a notch and perhaps 2 when in the online SMP, depending on the angle, make-up and sexuality shown in the pictures.

So what has happened is that a "7" has ignored a "6" in the online sphere but that the swimmer has gone on to meet a genuine 8 whom he probably met in real life.

Still, it would be interesting to see who female gold medalists are dating and if their men must be fellow Olympians, much richer or if any Olympian women have monkey-branched from non-Olympian husbands and boyfriends when they were living in the athletes' village.

 

[Razor Beast]

"An 8-9 in what sense? His body is probably slightly leaner than the average guy at my college gym."

He literally has the body of an Olympic athlete.

It's a lot more common than you think it is. There are plenty of guys who have been lifting for 5-10 years seriously who have clearly better physiques. I see them literally all the time at my gym and most of them aren't athletes.

Swimmers don't have great physiques imo. Very flat with no build or width or thickness. Leanness is only one part of a good masculine physique.

He's 6'0 163 lbs. You'd probably never guess he's an athlete with a shirt on. Not the slightest bit impressive but I'm an advanced lifter so my perspective is different. He's an olympian swimmer though I'll give him that.

 

[la bodhisattva]

Who the fuck calls anyone beautiful with seconds of a first interaction? He lost it within his first six words. Don't call any girl beautiful. They hear it enough with every stupid facebook profile pic update or lame instagram post. If it doesn't set you apart from the rest of the desperate and wretched simps, it will at least give a small dose of humbleness.

Just a small anecdote. I was out with my two best friends and three female acquaintances. One of the girls was talking about gaining weight - obviously fishing for compliments. My two idiot friends were aghast at her self-deprecation and told her how great she looked, guessing her weight to be in the low 100s. It was all very juvenile. I was shooting pool, trying to ignore stupid, drunken conversation when my opinion was asked. I intentionally guessed 20 lbs over the obvious weight. My buddies did the obligatory "ohhhh!!!" and she the obligatory "omg, nooooooo. Realllly??" I shrugged and kept playing pool. In the following days the girl made playful remarks about me calling her fat and eventually asked if I was interested some music concert. In the month since, she's been a pretty steady bang. And pretty cool overall, despite the lame shit test she pulled with my friends. Did it all stem from me not automatically glorifying her appearance? Possibly. We were decent enough friends before and her attention/attractive only seemed to amplify after my put down. It's hard to tell, but I doubt she would have been intrigued if I fell in line with the "you're gorgeous" trope.

Moral of the story? Don't call anyone except your wife or girlfriend or....daughter(?) beautiful. It's pathetic.

 

[Kid Twist]

This isn't that hard to believe, in reality if you are ever on these sites, you see it or experience it daily. I think it's a little deeper than what we let onto on this thread. That is, there is a part of the online thing that I've always thought that no one takes seriously. The person isn't right in front of you, no one really trusts the pictures, if you are a guy you just hope that she's that hot, etc.

This thread is a testament to the "I would never approach in real life at least 80% of those I swipe on" and women don't really get this to a grand degree, so they just go with the delusional, entertainment flow of swiping and thinking they are in some way wanted or desired. We know it couldn't be further from the truth. It's all a wonder for, a fantasy for hookup (which sometimes happens) but shouldn't be that surprising when it happens, or doesn't. If they hamster banging someone that doesn't "count", why wouldn't girls hamster that this Olympian "really wanted me"?

Tricking girls ("game") is contingent on their irrationality, so it's a double edged sword. So much of it is fantasy, it should hardly be surprising.

 

[Kid Twist]

Assuming that the swimmer is an 8 (without his Olympic achievements being known), his online SMV like most men, is at least two notches lower than his actual SMV in real life. OKC women find 80% of online men below average in SMV. The swimmer is below average online. Since Tinder was monetised, it is going the way of traditional dating sites (average women, single mothers, older woman hook ups).

Conversely, women's SMV increases by at least a notch and perhaps 2 when in the online SMP, depending on the angle, make-up and sexuality shown in the pictures.

So what has happened is that a "7" has ignored a "6" in the online sphere but that the swimmer has gone on to meet a genuine 8 whom he probably met in real life.

Still, it would be interesting to see who female gold medalists are dating and if their men must be fellow Olympians, much richer or if any Olympian women have monkey-branched from non-Olympian husbands and boyfriends when they were living in the athletes' village.

Great post, a lot to unpack here. Your analysis is clearly the case. If you look at that guy for most women, he wouldn't be anywhere near an 8 rating, even with the body shots, and this exposes how [possibly] detrimental the 2D online "stock" is for men.

6, I'm interested in why you think monetising it hurts it to the extent you claim. Can you explain?

I'm not gonna lie, I often wondered who some of these track girls end up with too, especially the black ones. That Bahaman who dove at the line, for example, I thought to myself, man I wouldn't mind tappin' that ... but being 6 foot tall, running all the time, focused and a black woman, I wondered always if you almost have to get someone involved in the same sport and from your home country. I feel like that's what their parents are usually too, that's why they got involved in that particular olympic sport.