Girl talks shit on an NYC subway. Gets slapped back to the future

[Suits]

Found a better article about the aftermath of the incident. It turns out the guy was a bouncer coming off a 12-hour shift. He also plans on suing the city over his arrest.


http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...on-charged-sue-nyc-attorney-article-1.2008463

This guy's lawyers have PR down like a couple champs.

He's publicly stating that he will apologize to the woman for slapping her (because you should never hit a woman, something that the public needs to hear), while maintaining that he had no choice in the matter because he believed that she intended to and could have killed him. Ultimately, he's playing the PR line correctly, while admitting no fault and maintain the necessity of his actions, from both a legal and reasonable standpoint.

At the same time, his lawyers and looking to sue the city and possibly the girl, if it's determined that she has liability for his injuries and/or resulting allegedly false imprisonment.

Brilliant.

Depending on how this turns out, this may end up being a major victory for men in America.

And he's the right man for the job. He demonstrated restraint, limited his actions to that which was arguably entirely necessary and justified. The open handed slap puts him in a very ideal position.

Hard working immigrant, never in trouble with the law before. Wife and child, etc. Ideal poster boy, 100%, unless other information comes to light.

Most importantly, he taught the bitch a lesson in the manliest of ways (short of putting her over his knee for an attitude adjustment, but that never would have flown legally).

 

[Slim Shady]

That guy's video is brilliant. Reminded me of this.

 

[pitt]

Damn this just confirms how good I am in telling what country somebody is from, I knew he was Dominican (fresh from there). The majority of Dominicans are blacks (even though they don't know how to define black),I don't know where that ''he is Croatian'' was coming from, dude looked clearly black.

 

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Fucking bitch.

He was released after prosecutors found he was acting in self-defense, his lawyer, Cary London, said.

The case was officially dismissed Monday in Manhattan Criminal Court after the DA’s office reviewed the tape, which shows Pena getting harassed by the women.

And she did hit him with the heels of her shoes before he even slapped her.

Howard takes the high-heeled boots she's holding in her hand and clocks him on the back of the head with them, the video shows.

Pena turns around and slaps her hard enough to send her flying back several feet — then her friends and another man jump into the brawl.

This other guy David Gil did not fucking defend her honor as he thought - he defended a fucking bitch who used potentially dangerous objects on a guy who was 3x as strong as her.

“I am quiet man ... I respect women. That's why I don't do nothing when she pushed me but when she hit me I had to do something. I had no choice,” he said.

For all those where who defend the bitch or the White Knight... you go ahead and let yourself be beaten by a heel of a woman's shoe.

The bitch is getting fearful:

A lawyer for Campbell said his client denied insulting Pena or getting involved in the altercation with him.

No bitch - you did not insult him - too bad it's on film.

Campbell has been charged with misdemeanor assault and disorderly conduct.

Howard was charged with felony assault and disorderly conduct.

Kevin Gil, 21, who was also involved, was charged with misdemeanor assault and disorderly conduct.

Their charges have not been dropped, a spokesman for the Manhattan District Attorney said.

Good that the justice system still works in this country from time to time. And the White Knight should not have moved in like a moron, but simply taken sure, that 8-Ball does not slap the girl again and she stops attacking him. But I guess he is too brainwashed in our feminist viewpoints that you MUST NEVER EVER slap a woman no matter what she does.

 

[DChambers]

Damn this just confirms how good I am in telling what country somebody is from, I knew he was Dominican (fresh from there). The majority of Dominicans are blacks (even though they don't know how to define black),I don't know where that ''he is Croatian'' was coming from, dude looked clearly black.

I stand corrected.

 

[Brian Shima]

I thought he was a tall scary Slavic ex war criminal

 

[bojangles]

that's great, lets hope he wins.

 

[Sombro]

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[TravelerKai]

I have a few musings on this:

Recall that big smile by the prettier wing-gal? How many black guys on RVF can recall ever getting into an argument with black females in a clique only to have one of them wink at you or come talk to you later on? Or you catch her by herself afterwards and she is putty in your hands? One of the reasons black guys tend to have stronger game by default is because it is hard to catch specific girls alone so you have to flirt-fight with their jealous bitch friends first.

You have to pass this massive shit test without escalating it into a full on brawl, in order to get the pussy from the interested one in that clique. It's like you have to have meat for the pitbull out in front. If he had de-escalated the situation with slick game skills, he could have gotten play from the other 2 girls, but obviously he wasn't interested enough.

Another one would be that women like this are common, especially black ones, in all major cities. The East Coast is not the only one. Moving to another location won't fix that issue. Changing levels to older women, just means you have to have verbal jabs back and forth with their lead sycophant. Older black women 26-40, hang out in groups as well. You have to pass the shit tests of all in that group first as well. The risk of a fight is a bit less, but still the arrogance and sense of entitlement is still there nevertheless. It basically becomes the same as with other race girls at that point.

It's immaturity like this with those 17-23 girls that makes it tough for guys in certain cities to isolate prey. I have lost count how many times, I have had to bail or abandon a daygame approach on a top notch young black girl due to a volatile clique. When you are often forced to chase older ones, your options tend to shrink causing frustration, because their shit tests are in alot of ways alot harder.

In fact, as a topic aside, Clique Penetration is difficult no matter what the race or city background. I never learned advanced divide and conquer strategies at that guy's age, but if I had that knowledge when I was 21 I wonder how much better it would have been.

 

[General Stalin]

I'm speaking of pure naivety here as I have little to no experience penetrating cliques, but I imagine there are 2 real contrasting approaches:

1.) Get friendly. Make friends with all of them and pick out the one you like once they are all disarmed.

2.) Go direct. Ghost all others in the group and march straight up to your target and isolate. Leave it up to her quell her friends if they chime in.

 

[Playboy_Extraordinare]

Charges dropped!

http://newsone.com/3070548/man-smacks-woman-nyc/''

I've seen this type of shit on the DC Metro but not to this extreme! I'm glad this cat got off instead of getting railroaded by absolute feminism!

 

[TheFinalEpic]

Charges dropped!

http://newsone.com/3070548/man-smacks-woman-nyc/''

I've seen this type of shit on the DC Metro but not to this extreme! I'm glad this cat got off instead of getting railroaded by absolute feminism!

hshit:

Good for him, this is still one of the greatest videos I've seen.

 

[Duke Castile]

I still want to donate money.

 

[Sturmgeist]

I still want to donate money.

I want to buy this guy a beer or three. He's fighting the good fight.

 

[Merenguero]

I still want to donate money.

I want to buy this guy a beer or three. He's fighting the good fight.

I tried to see if a fund has been set up, but I couldn't find anything. I'll keep checking and will post the link if I find anything. I was thinking that we could collectively make two donations, one in the name of team appetizers and one in the name of team no appetizers.

As far as him suing the girl, it's a waste of time and I don't think any competent lawyer would pursue it, regardless of whether he has any valid claims. She's young and is most likely broke or worse than broke. I also don't think a lawsuit against the city would be extremely successful. The possible causes of action would be false arrest and malicious prosecution. False arrest is causing the arrest of someone without legal justification. Malicious prosecution is the wrongful initiation of criminal proceedings with malice and without probable cause which are terminated in the Plaintiff's (in the civil case) favor. If the police did not see the video at the time they made the arrests in this matter, it would be very difficult to argue that they did not have probable cause or that the arrests were made without legal justification. The girl and other people probably told them that Pena slapped the girl. Pena and other people probably told them that the girl hit him in the back of his head with a shoe. This is all true, of course, but the sequence of events is what made the criminal charges go in Pena's favor. From merely talking to the people involved and any independent witnesses and observing any injuries to the people involved, I'm of the strong opinion that the police had probable cause to arrest all these people. Whether there is reasonable doubt is something to be sorted out after the arrests are made. The mere fact that reasonable doubt exists or that a person may have acted in self defense does not give a person a valid cause of action against the police or against a city.

 

[AneroidOcean]

Just some clarification for the guys that posted in this thread saying that her attack wasn't that severe:

Pena was arrested with the two women and another male. Pena had to go to the hospital to get a cut near his ear stitched up and another near his nose, he said.

“I have never been in trouble before. I've never slapped someone,” he said, adding that his arrest experience was horrible.

“I am quiet man ... I respect women. That's why I don't do nothing when she pushed me but when she hit me I had to do something. I had no choice,” he said.

I think he handled himself pretty well and now that his statement comes to light that he had to get stitches near his ear and near his nose, I think he handled himself very well.

How many of you don't consider an attack that causes you to get stitches on your face bodily harm or a threat to your life/health?

This is a great video showing what true harassment is, as compared to that stupid video of the girl getting "harassed" on the streets of NYC.

The girls made it all about themselves (he even told them he wasn't talking about them and he wanted them to leave him alone) and then they acted like thugs and eventually the one got slapped after inflicting serious injury to the guy.

I don't like his comments about how a man should never hit a woman. I understand they're for PR, but I would think a gender neutral all encompassing comment would be better.

 

[Foolsgo1d]

What could this situation have turned into if there was conceal and carry?

 

[Carlos100]

A lawyer for Campbell said his client denied insulting Pena or getting involved in the altercation with him.

"We are working with the DAs office to work out a favorable disposition as soon as possible," said attorney Greg Gomez.

I assume this is code for, "We'd like to make a deal. Please, please, please, let us plea bargain. We have no case because of the vidoe but we're also not worth prosecuting. With sugar on top, please let us plea bargain out of this."

 

[Shitlord]

He has clearly watched a lot of old Bond movies. Very nice and clean slap with great sound.

 

[Soberane]