Girlsdoporn.com lawsuit/declaring bankruptcy

[The Wire]

Holy shit, that’s escalated. Sex trafficking?? Not exactly the same league as some Romanian girl being taken from her village and then locked up or sold to a paki for £10k as happened in Glasgow recently.

People often underestimate how contracts are actually enforced and the slew of charges that can creep up on you if the law wants to really nail you to the coffin. They've nailed guys in porn on serious racketeering charges that where meant for organize crime just because they figured out how to cleverly nail them on certain things that were in that statute. Think about it. You're running a porn website in a state where porn has no legal status. All of sudden you are charged with prostitution. Next they find out someone was doing drugs on set. Then it's some money laundering and now you got racketeering activity and violating RICO.

 

[wwtl]

The whole issue essentially boils down to girls not being able to make mature decisions about contracts, regardless of their age. They need a father/husband to decide that for them. Our contract law goes back to the Roman Empire, but I doubt there were many women signing contracts back then.

This is again another example of how "equality" doesn't work in practice, and often creates victims.

It's also weird that people considered not being old enough to sign a marriage certificate in some places can appear in a porn movie...

 

[CaptainS]

I remember reading about one of these girls. Remember those "hyper-feminine" sorority rush videos that went viral a few years ago? Well, one of the girls had a bit of a coke problem that she started banging her dealer to support. When he got tired of her, she turned to escorting and a GDP shoot. She claims they told her the video was for a private collection and wouldn't be distributed publicly even though the contract clearly says otherwise.

Women will say anything and tell any lie to escape blame when their behavior is made public.

 

[Dirtyblueshirt]

I remember reading about one of these girls. Remember those "hyper-feminine" sorority rush videos that went viral a few years ago? Well, one of the girls had a bit of a coke problem that she started banging her dealer to support. When he got tired of her, she turned to escorting and a GDP shoot. She claims they told her the video was for a private collection and wouldn't be distributed publicly even though the contract clearly says otherwise.

Women will say anything and tell any lie to escape blame when their behavior is made public.

I agree that the claims are a bunch of nonsense. You make a professional porn video(where you sign a contract) and honestly believe that it will not be put up on the internet? No one is that stupid. The argument that they were stiffed on how much they were supposed to be paid is semi-believable, but then again, if you willingly sell yourself for sex you can't claim the moral high ground also.

This story is 100% about female regret after the fact and the sting of public shaming when exposed.

 

[wwtl]

I remember reading about one of these girls. Remember those "hyper-feminine" sorority rush videos that went viral a few years ago? Well, one of the girls had a bit of a coke problem that she started banging her dealer to support. When he got tired of her, she turned to escorting and a GDP shoot. She claims they told her the video was for a private collection and wouldn't be distributed publicly even though the contract clearly says otherwise.

Women will say anything and tell any lie to escape blame when their behavior is made public.

I agree that the claims are a bunch of nonsense. You make a professional porn video(where you sign a contract) and honestly believe that it will not be put up on the internet? No one is that stupid. The argument that they were stiffed on how much they were supposed to be paid is semi-believable, but then again, if you willingly sell yourself for sex you can't claim the moral high ground also.

This story is 100% about female regret after the fact and the sting of public shaming when exposed.

Guys, we are talking about women here. You know the kind of humans you can get to do stupid stuff with something called "game".

As I wrote already it's all about female agency in the end and what they made you believe about it.

 

[Harem Scarem]

This sure escalated quickly. I can't help but find it amusing that you have all these porn videos where the actresses are pretending to be girls next door who get talked into having sex on camera, and yet here this was actually the case (supposedly).

I can't comment on the legal aspects, but I find myself wondering what all the plaintiffs in this case are doing now. These reports are always a little coy about that thing (see also Mia Khalifa talking about how little she earned in her short-lived career). Are they otherwise wholesome (or at least normal) girls who have had their lives ruined by one mistake? Or are they still doing "modelling" as a career? Lots of whores who are upset they didn't get paid enough.

Another thing I wonder is to what extent these guys had their snouts in the trough of porn. Were they on the inside of the industry, or were they operating on their own and are they being punished for that now? I'm sure the rest of the porn industry is run along very ethical lines and they never do booze and drugs on set...

 

[sanbruno]

Their ability to land so many girl next door types makes me feel like the rumors about them lying about the distribution are likely true. A “normal” porn operation would have the girls tested and such, but it appears these guys rushed them to San Diego and banged them in hotels as fast as possible. The girls in these videos have a certain smile on their face that says they think they are having their cake and eating too (money and validation of porn without the social stigma). Most of the girls are also clearly into the male talent, and have a very subservient demeanor with them. Just goes to show how women lose agency in the hands of dominate alpha males. I think most left with a grin on their face, and money for a new designer handbag, but are more than happy to play up a victim narrative once it becomes apparent they completely fucked up getting paid a few grand for videos that will be seen by millions of men for years to come. I do feel sorry dor naive young women that fall for this, but at the same time, if you thought it was a good idea to take the word of some tatted thugs with burner phones, you probably were going to fuck up your life one way or another.

 

[The Catalyst]

My speculation on this:

As we all know, porn is not profitable. They have links to a Mexican cartel. https://www.nbcsandiego.com/investi...s-Smugglers-and-Mexican-Cartel-510221931.html
https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/lo...ite-Owners-Whereabouts-Unknown-560615211.html

So I'm guessing this is just a "reward" to the Mexican guy/s from the cartel- he gets to fuck all sorts of pretty, mostly white girls and plaster it all over the internet to see. The guys also get to LARP as attractive, high status people. (It also explains why this particular studio made it big, while many other "indie" studios don't)

I do wonder how they get the girls though. My suspicion is most of the girls were gotten through mostly legitimate, maybe mildly coercive/manipulative means, however at least a dozen or couple dozen were really shady, almost rape level(blocking doors/preventing escape/refusing to pay for flights). Which explains the duality- they've done a lot of girls and a lot of them seem either enthusiastic or whorey, while some girls don't seem to want to be there and/or "too innocent" for porn.

 

[SlickyBoy]

It's also weird that people considered not being old enough to sign a marriage certificate in some places can appear in a porn movie...

The exact opposite is true - you can get married in some US states as young as 15, but the federal age for porn "acting" is 18. It's worth noting there's no allegations of anything underage going on or it'd be case closed.

What might cook their goose on the criminal charges is the bit about threats. If the guys were dumb enough to put that into some kind of messaging, coupled with a "commercial sex act" it could result in sex trafficking convictions. The federal law doesn't have to involve underage people, physical abuse or confinement. That said, my guess is the defendants will take a plea to any lesser charge without the word "sex" in it (garden variety extortion, etc.). If that happens, the monetary ambitions of lawyers in the civil suits are hindered:

Their civil trial, which began in August, was suspended Thursday when word of the federal arrests reached the Superior Court trial judge. He ordered attorneys to return on Tuesday to discuss the next steps. Defense lawyers said they want the civil case on hold until the criminal case is resolved, but the plaintiffs’ attorneys object to that delay.

No sex offense convictions make a "sex-slave theory" lawsuit less convincing to a jury and belie the transactional nature of all participants. Plaintiff attorneys don't want to take that risk, or the even bigger disappointment if the defendants go to trial and are found not guilty.

$17 million in revenue - holy crap, that's a lot of incels footing the bill.

 

[Days of Broken Arrows]

I remember reading about one of these girls. Remember those "hyper-feminine" sorority rush videos that went viral a few years ago? Well, one of the girls had a bit of a coke problem that she started banging her dealer to support. When he got tired of her, she turned to escorting and a GDP shoot. She claims they told her the video was for a private collection and wouldn't be distributed publicly even though the contract clearly says otherwise.

Women will say anything and tell any lie to escape blame when their behavior is made public.

I agree that the claims are a bunch of nonsense. You make a professional porn video(where you sign a contract) and honestly believe that it will not be put up on the internet? No one is that stupid. The argument that they were stiffed on how much they were supposed to be paid is semi-believable, but then again, if you willingly sell yourself for sex you can't claim the moral high ground also.

This story is 100% about female regret after the fact and the sting of public shaming when exposed.

Let's just say -- for argument's sake -- that a girl did believe the porn she did somehow wouldn't hit the Internet.

At some point before shooting 1). She'd Google that or 2). A friend or ten would tell her she's wrong.

This is the Internet age. People look up everything. People will read 50 Yelp reviews before trying a new restaurant. Does anyone really think a girl wouldn't do at least some research before blowing a guy on camera?

The liberal lie about people "not having access to Google" can't be used here. 99 percent of girls that age have smart phones and even if they didn't, every public library has computers.

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The other thing that's not being addressed here is that girls who do porn usually do a lot of other things in the sex industry and use porn to up their value. I wonder how many of these girls were on Seeking Arrangement or worked as strippers and did porn to raise their rates in those realms?

The defense in this case should research that, but I'll bet the judge wouldn't allow it as evidence.

From what I've read (and heard first-hand), this is the business plan for these girls. It's called cross-marketing.

 

[SlickyBoy]

This is the Internet age. People look up everything. People will read 50 Yelp reviews before trying a new restaurant. Does anyone really think a girl wouldn't do at least some research before blowing a guy on camera?

The liberal lie about people "not having access to Google" can't be used here. 99 percent of girls that age have smart phones and even if they didn't, every public library has computers.

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The other thing that's not being addressed here is that girls who do porn usually do a lot of other things in the sex industry and use porn to up their value. I wonder how many of these girls were on Seeking Arrangement or worked as strippers and did porn to raise their rates in those realms?

The defense in this case should research that, but I'll bet the judge wouldn't allow it as evidence.

From what I've read (and heard first-hand), this is the business plan for these girls. It's called cross-marketing.

This is where I think their civil case will fall apart. The defense will have a right to cross examine any witnesses called. Even if the defense counsel isn't allowed to ask her about other sex work (which he may be allowed to do - rape shield laws don't apply here), he can tease out the truth easily enough with some basic questions. They would be structured, but here are a few:

Do you have a smart phone?
Do you know how to use Google?
Have you ever used Google to find information?
Where did you learn about these men?
Where did you find their solicitation for models?
Was that the only time you ever read the Craigslist ads?
Did you ask any friends about these guys before you accepted their offer?


If the defense has info about other sex work they'd be foolish not to hang onto that for possible impeachment of the witness:

Have you ever accepted gifts or money for sexual performances before?
"Uh, no..."
Do you recognize this photo?
"Uh..."
Is that you?
....ymmmffff....
Is that a yes?
"....yes."
Where was it posted?
"...sekigmmmm argmmfff...."
Where?
"Seeking Arrangement.... <boohoohooohooo>....!"

No further questions your honor.

 

[eradicator]

I can’t possibly be the only one getting an idea here.

It reminds me of the show “weeds” where Andy gets the idea to be a good natured coyote and benevolently help wetbacks cross the border without doing any of the shady shit,


Step 1
Get some basic video equipment and lighting

Step 2
Start posting on Craigslist for 18 to 20 year old girls interested in getting started in an adult film career, they will be paid 5000 to 7000 dollars for the shoot and be flown out to wherever and you will also put up the hotel room.

3) actually follow through on the amount

4) tell them you aren’t sure which website you are going to use it on, you are just in the stage of creating content at this point

5) Treat the girls well instead of being shitty and use them for actual referrals and pay them for it to rope in new talent.

6) do the editing and coding for the site or hire editors and a coder to put up the footage into a site themed about showcasing amateur girls who filmed their one and only scene.

7) profit and avoid getting sued

I’m somewhat shocked that the owner made any money on this site at all, much less 20 million USA dollars. But if he hadn’t been sketchy about it he could have gone on indefinitely and continued to make money(if he really did make money)

 

[sanbruno]

I’m somewhat shocked that the owner made any money on this site at all, much less 20 million USA dollars. But if he hadn’t been sketchy about it he could have gone on indefinitely and continued to make money(if he really did make money)

Their site was $29.99 a month, and seems to have been run by only a handful of people with minimal overhead. It only takes 50,000 monthly subscribers to get you over 17 million in revenue a year. The girls they got were seriously hot, and their free clips had huge hits on the tube sites. Even with the free clips often being enough to fap, and full scenes generally found with a little web digging, 50k+ worldwide subscriber base doesn't seem unreasonable at all. I wouldn't be surprised if some of their hottest, most viral girls got paid upward of $10k (which would explain how they got so many stunners).

 

[The Catalyst]

I’m somewhat shocked that the owner made any money on this site at all, much less 20 million USA dollars. But if he hadn’t been sketchy about it he could have gone on indefinitely and continued to make money(if he really did make money)

Trust your instincts, he probably didn't.

 

[AneroidOcean]

Some of you guys saying the equivalent of "they deserved it, they signed a contract and now they're regretting it" clearly didn't read the allegations that they were held against their will or pay withheld, major things changed (like a FFM shoot with condom being changed to a MMF shoot without condom), etc...

You can't just say "oh you signed a contract" if the other party is changing everything agreed to, withholding pay, etc...

If those things are true those guys are going down and rightfully so.

If they're not, I agree with the crowd wholeheartedly, but you guys just railing on female nature like it's not possible these guys were blatantly disregarding their contracts (and the law) is short-sighted.

 

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Some of you guys saying the equivalent of "they deserved it, they signed a contract and now they're regretting it" clearly didn't read the allegations that they were held against their will or pay withheld, major things changed (like a FFM shoot with condom being changed to a MMF shoot without condom), etc...

You can't just say "oh you signed a contract" if the other party is changing everything agreed to, withholding pay, etc...

If those things are true those guys are going down and rightfully so.

If they're not, I agree with the crowd wholeheartedly, but you guys just railing on female nature like it's not possible these guys were blatantly disregarding their contracts (and the law) is short-sighted.

No - they deserve prison sentences if it's true that they told the girls that it would be released on DVD only in some markets. Most of their girls are one and dones who regret it as soon as they reach more popularity online.

Even the girls who are in the career 3 months are lied to - they make 30.000$ per month while being online for years or decades now.

The entire industry relies on women being lied to thinking that the job pays more than Twitch-ethotting, stripping or pure escorting. It doesn't and the downsides are greater than from all other.

I would move hard against such shitheads. And I also would enact regulation that require the girls to see a government-issued pamphlet where the simple truths about porn are being told to the girls - average real income, repercussions to their private and professional lives etc. 5000$ per shoot does not come even close to an equivalent renumeration at least for the hotter girls. The price would go up to 15.000$-25.000$ for the first shoot in order for desperate girls to risk it.

Albeit the elite wants porn to grow, wants masturbation classes in school, a total destruction of families, so fucking up the lives of a few girls is fine.

 

[AntoniusofEfa]

Some of you guys saying the equivalent of "they deserved it, they signed a contract and now they're regretting it" clearly didn't read the allegations that they were held against their will or pay withheld, major things changed (like a FFM shoot with condom being changed to a MMF shoot without condom), etc...

You can't just say "oh you signed a contract" if the other party is changing everything agreed to, withholding pay, etc...

If those things are true those guys are going down and rightfully so.

If they're not, I agree with the crowd wholeheartedly, but you guys just railing on female nature like it's not possible these guys were blatantly disregarding their contracts (and the law) is short-sighted.

No - they deserve prison sentences if it's true that they told the girls that it would be released on DVD only in some markets. Most of their girls are one and dones who regret it as soon as they reach more popularity online.

Even the girls who are in the career 3 months are lied to - they make 30.000$ per month while being online for years or decades now.

The entire industry relies on women being lied to thinking that the job pays more than Twitch-ethotting, stripping or pure escorting. It doesn't and the downsides are greater than from all other.

I would move hard against such shitheads. And I also would enact regulation that require the girls to see a government-issued pamphlet where the simple truths about porn are being told to the girls - average real income, repercussions to their private and professional lives etc. 5000$ per shoot does not come even close to an equivalent renumeration at least for the hotter girls. The price would go up to 15.000$-25.000$ for the first shoot in order for desperate girls to risk it.

Albeit the elite wants porn to grow, wants masturbation classes in school, a total destruction of families, so fucking up the lives of a few girls is fine.

Stop taking agency from these empowered women! They made their choice. It is not like there are major consequences for these women, since there will always be a guy thirsty enough to offer a ring.

 

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Curbing of porn is helpful for men too. The less beautiful young girls there are the better for men, because they consume less.

Israel has issued a license necessity for porn viewing for it's citizens. The UK has said that they will do it too, but for them it will likely be something more Orwellian since they are not opposed to porn.

The women can have all the agency they want - just with clear awareness.

Though a true shitlord government would do so much more, that porn wouldn't be much on the agenda anymore.

 

[sanbruno]

Girls Do Porn had some of the hottest 'normal' girls I've ever seen, so this doesn't surprise me. I've actually had some semi-hate wanks over the girls when they say how much they love their boyfriends, only minutes later to get absolutely pounded on camera.

It's actually quite black pilling how many of the girls have boyfriends but can't resist the cash (thinking they'd never be caught, of course). Really makes you wonder what girls are like when given complete anonymity regarding sexcapades.

It's very depressing to see these young girls debase themselves for cash, thrills and attention/fame.

Imagine that's your daughter.

Imagine what your sweet little innocent LTR has done in the past...

I hate to admit it, but watching too much GDP in my more blue pill days definitely had a red pilling affect me. The male talent really man-handles and pounds these girls, and most are clearly quite into it. Despite their regret-rape claims, these girls are smiling into the camera and making eye contact and grabbing the body of the male talent the whole time. I can see them lying about the distribution and shorting them on pay, but I have a hard time seeing how these girls were otherwise pressured or coerced emotionally or physically considering their receptive body language on video. These guys gave them the false opportunity to get banged by a fit alpha, get a free vacation, have the validation of being a "porn star", and finally have NONE of the social repercussions. What a deal! No wonder so many naive girls next door types fell for it. At least your average tatted bad girl/stripper type wouldn't entertain such naive trust in psychopathic alpha males.

 

[Kungfu]

Haven't watched porn in a few weeks. Much less anxiety, better concentration, more confidence too. Brain doesn't feel drained of it's feel-good chemicals.

Must be what ecstasy users feel like. Feels good in the beginning then it drains all your brain juices (dopamine and whatever else), then they feel really depressed after.