Girlsdoporn.com lawsuit/declaring bankruptcy

[Simeon_Strangelight]

But it still shows you that those super-attractive girls still have some resistance to total degeneration. The overwhelming majority of them are one-and-dones - and it seems that they were conned heavily.

Sounds more like they were cool with being whores, they just didn't want it to affect their reputation.

They were trollops alright, but the evidence is clearly in the line of fraud. If they never had mentioned that it would not get disseminated then many would not have signed. Also there is a line to be crossed when it comes to convincing especially when it's about something as impactful as doing porn online that everyone in their family, friends, employers and future husbands might see.

The more attractive and the more middle-class the girls are the worse it is, because the ugly poor duckling with a broken family won't care much - and those were many of the old porn starlets in the past - just put some makeup on it and go.

I think that those men did it because they found that it took outright fraud, lies and some technique to get the hottest youngest girls to do it.

And yeah - those girls would be likely most willing to bang a sugardaddy though some wanted to see the talent they had to do it with. So you also had to have a somewhat attractive man for the scenes.

It was a good setup - find a good-looking guy, lie about the dissemination, then let them sign. If they were fully honest then I think that they would have gotten far uglier and more worn, tatted and ugly girls.

 

[Teedub]

Fuck em. The porn industry is revolting, though I do understand the 'dangerous precedent' arguments.

 

[The Wire]

If they were fully honest then I think that they would have gotten far uglier and more worn, tatted and ugly girls.

Which is why precisely they didn't do that and they used shell modeling websites for casting calls.

 

[wannable alpha]

I don't think Pratt or Wolfe are Jewish. They both are Kiwi gentiles. Garcia is obviously Hispanic. Their admin assistant Moser is alleged to be Jewish but no confirmation. Anyway the ethnicity doesn't matter because they had people from all ethnic groups involved. Teddy Gyi is Asian. The fake reference women are whites. Most of their employees seem to be white.

In fact, some of the 4chan crowd are saying that the Jewish porn mafia brought down the only Anglo/gentile porn studio.

All this is speculation but the fact is these guys are absolute scumbags. The level of deception is outrageous.

Many of the girls were skeptical of the DVD claim and were worried about the fact that it could reach the internet. GDP claimed that most of these videos were meant for private collectors who all had to sign NDAs which ensured that those private collectors would not be allowed to upload the videos online. GDP also promised the girls that if it ever happened they would take action on the girl's behalf and have it taken down.

One girl before her shoot suspected that the video was for GDP website and asked Garcia, the male actor, about this in text. He asked her to call him and then outright lied to her by saying that they were not GDP.

The way their entire scheme worked almost any financially needy girl coming from a family of moderate or liberal values would have fallen for it. These are not Amish girls who stay away from the modern world.

 

[Simeon_Strangelight]

It's nothing about Jewish vs gentile porn mafia. (At least this case with the history being obvious.) There are enough Christian porn producers now with their own companies.

And they won't be taking down porn for sure - it will become rather more liberal. The issue here was outright fraud.

Generally even if those shit-companies adhere to the law they lie to the girls about the potential earnings and the repercussions for their private lives.

They tell them exaggerations of all the best "actresses" making 5000$ a day. So 100.000$+ on a full schedule per month. The reality is that even the biggest most attractive starlets make 30.000$/month max and that is after appearing in all the main sites. After 3 months they rounded up the biggest sites and then usually the income goes way down. They would make much more cash with less exposure stripping or chatting with losers for money on Twitch.

The overwhelming majority of girls of 98%+ appear once, then the other 1.99% are in the biz for 2 weeks to 3 months before they realize what is up. Some then become hookers which pays way more using their minor porn fame. Only very very few hot girls have some kind of fetish which lets them love having sex in front of the camera. Those women would have become at best luxury whores in the past as well. But they are a tiny percentage of women out there.

It's a negative useless business that should be highly restricted, girls should be given mandatory information pamphlets about all of the facts and porn should be behind a wall accessible only if you ask for a license at the government. And that license should be 1000$ per year in order to restrict the usage by young men. That would eliminate 95% of the porn industry.

These guys here lied about the basics and not only exaggerated potential earnings which is hard to pin down someone over. (Because you can find one rare case and have it "proven.")

I think that I read that they sometimes put a girl's face to the top of the site if she complained too much after the fact.

So those guys here are clearly malicious.

 

[Aurini]

It's nothing about Jewish vs gentile porn mafia. (At least this case with the history being obvious.) There are enough Christian porn producers now with their own companies.

And they won't be taking down porn for sure - it will become rather more liberal. The issue here was outright fraud.

Generally even if those shit-companies adhere to the law they lie to the girls about the potential earnings and the repercussions for their private lives.

They tell them exaggerations of all the best "actresses" making 5000$ a day. So 100.000$+ on a full schedule per month. The reality is that even the biggest most attractive starlets make 30.000$/month max and that is after appearing in all the main sites. After 3 months they rounded up the biggest sites and then usually the income goes way down. They would make much more cash with less exposure stripping or chatting with losers for money on Twitch.

The overwhelming majority of girls of 98%+ appear once, then the other 1.99% are in the biz for 2 weeks to 3 months before they realize what is up. Some then become hookers which pays way more using their minor porn fame. Only very very few hot girls have some kind of fetish which lets them love having sex in front of the camera. Those women would have become at best luxury whores in the past as well. But they are a tiny percentage of women out there.

It's a negative useless business that should be highly restricted, girls should be given mandatory information pamphlets about all of the facts and porn should be behind a wall accessible only if you ask for a license at the government. And that license should be 1000$ per year in order to restrict the usage by young men. That would eliminate 95% of the porn industry.

These guys here lied about the basics and not only exaggerated potential earnings which is hard to pin down someone over. (Because you can find one rare case and have it "proven.")

I think that I read that they sometimes put a girl's face to the top of the site if she complained too much after the fact.

So those guys here are clearly malicious.

Universities have been pulling this scam for years...

:dodgy:

 

[placer]

Here is some of the media coverage of the lawsuit being lost:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/amate...r12775m-in-damages-for-exploiting-young-women - https://archive.is/KcJdb

After the candidates were sufficiently persuaded, Pratt would fly them to San Diego, bring them to a hotel room, offer them alcohol or weed, and have them sign contracts. The documents were worded vaguely, and the Girls Do Porn employees told models not to read too closely, promising that the fine print merely affirmed what they already knew: anonymous, overseas distribution, totally secret. Then, they would shoot scenes. Often, the models’ pay was docked due to some physical flaw—a tattoo, weight gain, a haircut. Most of the plaintiffs received far less in compensation than they were told at the outset.

https://gizmodo.com/victims-win-13-million-in-lawsuit-against-girlsdoporn-1840791241 - https://archive.is/Thm6E

In the verdict, San Diego Superior Court Judge Kevin Enright wrote that the contracts were “invalid and unenforceable–part and parcel of Defendants’ fraudulent scheme.” Enright found clear and convincing evidence that the syndicate acted in malice, oppression or fraud, writing:

“Collectively, they have experienced severe harassment, emotional and psychological trauma, and reputational harm; lost jobs, academic and professional opportunities, and family and personal relationships; and had their lives derailed and uprooted. They have become pariahs in their communities. Several Plaintiffs have become suicidal.”

GirlsDoPorn continued to show total indifference throughout the trial, even uploading a new video involving one Jane Doe who claimed that she was not made aware of the lawsuit when she shot the video in August.

The women won a total of $9.45 million in compensatory damages, $3.3 million in punitive damages, and copyrights to their videos.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...h-13-million-judgment-for-fraud-and-coercion/ - https://archive.is/MqgHO

The women were also promised that their confidentiality would be protected. Instead, their real-life identities quickly circulated online, causing them immense embarrassment with friends and family. Pratt himself owned PornWikiLeaks, a site dedicated to outing the women on sites like GirlsDoPorn, for several months. The judge found substantial circumstantial evidence that Pratt personally seeded the site with private information about GirlsDoPorn women.

Point being, a lot of posters here who predicted GirlsDoPorn would win the civil lawsuit are working under the assumptions of the pre-#MeToo era. Here, in the post-#MeToo era, anyone who is making porn needs to be extremely careful to make sure there is full and unambiguous consent from the ladies.

Personally, I wish modern law put the line somewhere besides "is she consenting", and I wish there was real legal and moral consequences for extra-marital sex, because there are severe consequences for not having that bright line, but this is the world we live in here in the 2020s.

 

[MichaelWitcoff]

Yeah, my sympathy here is floating right around zero. They agreed to be paid for sex and then got angry when they couldn’t lie to their parents and potential beta providers about it.

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[eradicator]

So, I assume the Aussie bloke who owned the company moved back to Australia and had his money in an offshore bank account?

I have zero sympathy for the girls suing that they got tricked into porn, they won the lawsuit but still have to collect the money. Good luck there.

 

[Simeon_Strangelight]

I don't care about sympathy for the girls. But fraud is fraud.

Some of the girls' situations were tantamount to rich good-looking sugardaddys recording for their own private use and then simply publishing the content on a big porn site that most girls know nothing about. You can argue that having a sugardaddy is reprehensible and being stupid enough to be recorded is stupid enough, or believing that the contract is only for private DVD collectors. But the truth is that people believe all kinds of things when money and sufficient authority is conveyed.

How can your grandmother believe that you need that money urgently and a friend is going to pick it up soon, eh? That happens all the time just as conning 18yo ill-informed feminist and sexually empowered girls is easy. Feminism made being a slut empowering.

Just men take into account all those factors. Those libertarian "I don't care about anything" arguments work only so far until you realize that the girls reacted exactly as conditioned by decades of feminist and Hollywood propgramming. It did not just happen out of their wicked nature.

I care about all those individuals poisoned by preventable actions of a tiny elite. I care about those misguided girls, about men getting divorce-raped, about children being raised by dysfunctional single-mother households, about men addicted to opioids, about the poor getting high on meth and heroine, about the young ones hating their own country, history and even race, about the men of lower abilities who are outcompeted and outsourced in the cut-throat economy.

There are and were always rules in place for the functioning of a sane society - you have saloons and brothels away from the school and the church, you limit certain things while otherwise giving freedom to make errors. However our society has long since crossed the sane boundary.

The very same girls that are despised some over having done porn - the very same girls would have been faithful happily married wives and mothers in the 1950s. We know that human societies are pliable to a degree over generations - the elite spend trillions on relentless conditioning not because it does not work. Will you later also have no sympathy when children have joint masturbation classes in elementary school as predicted 100 years ago? When they cannot bond as tested out in elite-sponsored orphanages in the 1920s and 30s - UK? Guess when no one bonds and is mandated in promiscuity, then we don't need sympathy if they are all miserable and need SOMA daily.

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Do you really think that those women of the 1940s are so very much different in their basic genetics and baseline? Or is it more likely that they would grow up to the same in the 2000s due to decades of inter-generational brainwashing?

And this is not that accusatory here - I don't think that the men here have bad intentions and deviations of opinions are normal - uniformity is the aberration.

 

[MichaelWitcoff]

The hypoagency argument has some validity to it, but these are girls that literally went to another city, signed a contract agreeing to receive money for sex with strangers, then allowed themselves to be filmed having sex with strangers for money. At what point is free will involved? Sure, they’re stupid and were easily deceived. But they were also very willing to be.

And if you’re going with the full hypoagency argument, then nobody should be allowed to vote, choose their own education, diets, or romantic partners either. The logical outcome of the hypoagency argument is tyranny over every single aspect of everybody’s life - “for their own good.”

And at a certain point it does look like there’s validity to that, sadly. Just not sure we’ve reached it yet.

Lastly, I’d probably care more if I thought there were any chance that my caring would result in meaningful real-world changes. Life’s already hard enough without caring deeply about things you have no control over.

“The greatest pain a man can feel is to have insight into much and power over nothing.” - Herodotus

 

[Simeon_Strangelight]

< I remember we agreed that a general ban or restriction of porn would be good. Thus in that world this case already would not happen.

Self-responsibility is always a thing, but so are the common-sense rules of society. It's not about taking away freedoms, it's just understanding that some avenues lead only to degeneration for society.

 

[MichaelWitcoff]

I do think that the porn industry should be shut down, but I also know that tens of thousands of women will continue to upload nude photos and videos of themselves to the internet for attention afterward. I’m not sure what effect it would actually have if the companies were gone but places like Reddit still allow women to do that.

Hence my new retreat into a kind of apathy on this and many other topics. Caring doesn’t matter when you have no say in what happens. It just makes your life worse and takes up energy that could be spent developing spiritually, physically, and psychologically instead.

I pray for the best but also realize that we aren’t even close to how bad things are going to get in this country.

 

[Simeon_Strangelight]

I would take a generation to roll back feminism, this mass push for degeneration. It wasn't organic at all. Society would move strongly to the right and more conservative.

Our current state didn't "just happen" - it's created by trillions of dollars. Once you de-power this and promote conventional conservative values, then will also the women react to that. A porn ban would stop this case here, but the mental rot would take at least a generation to stamp out.

It's amazing truly to see how much power our current elite truly has - it is unprecedented in human history at least to this scale.

 

[MichaelWitcoff]

Yes it is. And we live under more censorship than any other society has, up to and including communist nations, in which generally only criticism of The Party was banned. Power continues to accumulate into the hands of our enemies, and even worse, into the hands of the stupid who think they’re actually conserving anything of value (ie, the mainstream GOP). The rollback on abortion has been nice but at the rate things are going, America as we knew it is gone forever.

 

[wannable alpha]

Roosh had said in one of his articles how it is kinda hopeless to fight against the big corporations. In this case its the entire porn industry, telecom carriers (how much bandwidth is used for delivering porn!) and ACLU types who equate porn with free speech.

In such a scenario, only thing to do is to educate all young women in your family and friends about the dangers and pitfalls of entering porn. The entire verdict is worth reading about how manipulative and deceitful porn guys can be. The kind of methods that they use, most 18-20 year old girls would have no idea and fall for it.

The verdict also goes into how the girls' lives were ruined once the videos became public. It is not just their families being mad at them. Some were supportive of the girls and helped them deal with the trauma. But the most shocking thing to read was how their entire community turned against them. Name calling, threats, vandalism, expulsion from jobs and college activities, blackmail by guys for sex. Girls with younger sisters (12-14 years of age) were also propositioned for sex or asked when they were going to do porn. Even they had to change schools.

This is happening even after so many years. They are scared to go out in public. Even changing cities doesn't work since their names have been outed and people in the new town quickly come to know about the video.

BTW, the GDP guys doxxed these girls in order to drive more traffic and sales. They had the girls' IDs and would post personal details along with links to her social media accounts on pornwikileaks. And then they or online stalkers would send the video links to everyone listed on the girl's social media page. This is why the girls were outed so quickly, within days of the video being online.

The entire verdict is a must read for every teenage and young girl, esp the ones who are thinking of entering the glamour/entertainment industry.

 

[Benoit]

The verdict also goes into how the girls' lives were ruined once the videos became public. It is not just their families being mad at them. Some were supportive of the girls and helped them deal with the trauma. But the most shocking thing to read was how their entire community turned against them. Name calling, threats, vandalism, expulsion from jobs and college activities, blackmail by guys for sex. Girls with younger sisters (12-14 years of age) were also propositioned for sex or asked when they were going to do porn. Even they had to change schools.

This is happening even after so many years. They are scared to go out in public. Even changing cities doesn't work since their names have been outed and people in the new town quickly come to know about the video.

And NONE of this would have happened if they hadn't taken money for sex on camera.

 

[wannable alpha]

And NONE of this would have happened if they hadn't taken money for sex on camera.

It's not that simple. Some of the women did not know it was going to be a porn shoot until they reached the hotel room flying across the country. They were told that it was a general modeling shoot with an option of doing an "adult gig". This made them think that it meant some artistic nudes.

Once in the room they were told it was a porn shoot and there was no other option. If they did not want to do it, their return flight would be cancelled and they would also have to pay for the hotel + incoming flight expenses.

The girls refused but then they were told that it was for DVD in Australia or a private collector. These girls were surrounded by 2-3 men and the equipment was put against the door. One girl tried to flee mid scene and was stopped and thrown on the bed and the scene continued. i.e. rape.

There was certainly a level of coercion involved. Hence the federal sex trafficking charges as well.

 

[MichaelWitcoff]

And NONE of this would have happened if they hadn't taken money for sex on camera.

It's not that simple. Some of the women did not know it was going to be a porn shoot until they reached the hotel room flying across the country. They were told that it was a general modeling shoot with an option of doing an "adult gig". This made them think that it meant some artistic nudes.

Once in the room they were told it was a porn shoot and there was no other option. If they did not want to do it, their return flight would be cancelled and they would also have to pay for the hotel + incoming flight expenses.

The girls refused but then they were told that it was for DVD in Australia or a private collector. These girls were surrounded by 2-3 men and the equipment was put against the door. One girl tried to flee mid scene and was stopped and thrown on the bed and the scene continued. i.e. rape.

There was certainly a level of coercion involved. Hence the federal sex trafficking charges as well.

If that's accurate then I retract some of my earlier cynicism. I dated a woman once who thought she was going to a "photoshoot" and ended up getting pimped out to the guy's friends / clients. Not her fault the first time, though she did continue the "business relationship" of her own free will afterward.

 

[Simeon_Strangelight]

And NONE of this would have happened if they hadn't taken money for sex on camera.

It's not that simple. Some of the women did not know it was going to be a porn shoot until they reached the hotel room flying across the country. They were told that it was a general modeling shoot with an option of doing an "adult gig". This made them think that it meant some artistic nudes.

Once in the room they were told it was a porn shoot and there was no other option. If they did not want to do it, their return flight would be cancelled and they would also have to pay for the hotel + incoming flight expenses.

The girls refused but then they were told that it was for DVD in Australia or a private collector. These girls were surrounded by 2-3 men and the equipment was put against the door. One girl tried to flee mid scene and was stopped and thrown on the bed and the scene continued. i.e. rape.

There was certainly a level of coercion involved. Hence the federal sex trafficking charges as well.

Even without using violence this is definitely coercion - it's tantamount to driving a girl out 100 miles into the Nevada desert at night, then whipping your dick out and saying - either you suck it or you walk while you take her phone. If she refuses, you kick her out and then drive a bit away - see if she reconsiders.

Those buggers had little to risk there even lying to them they thought. They fly a broke girl over into another state, it's late at night and she is tired sitting on the bed in a 5-star-hotel. Then they tell her that it's a porn shoot, not a model shoot, and if she refuses then she has to pay for the flight back and find a hotel late at night - probably most of them being broke anyway. You tell her that if she does it, then no one sees it and she can stay in the hotel until tomorrow noon and has her flight back.

It's only due to the shadiness of the business that this worked so long at all.

As for the main perp fleeing - he is not Chinese, he is not Israeli and he is not a citizen of a Muslim state - those places might keep him safe even with an American warrant out. He can keep the cash if it's in bitcoin, but he will have to change his identity and best never use an international airport after some time. Otherwise he will be arrested some day anyway. He can live for the rest of his days at best somewhere like Thailand on bitcoin and cash. If he doesn't and thinks that he can fly to the US or NZ in 5 yrs, then he is mistaken. Sure - staying as a paranoid millionaire in Thailand beats being in prison and having his money confiscated, but still.... I somehow doubt that he will be disciplined enough to pull it off.