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China is emerging as the biggest box office draw in the world. It will surpass America in the next five years and will combine the North American and European box office a few years after that.
China don't dig faggots (or non-white and Asian leads for that matter)
Same reason Bond won't be anything other than a white man. (Even tho I personally don't care, as long as it isn't a women. Gillian Anderson? pssh gtfo)
SJW bullshit and identity politics will not survive in big budget blockbusters now and certainly not in the near future.
Not when the population/wealth increases in the world are in patriarchal lands when compared to the West.
In fact I have a personal hope that the Chinese box office and emerging studios in China will bring back masculinity and old school Heroes to the big the screen ala the 1980s.
China
China is emerging as the biggest box office draw in the world. It will surpass America in the next five years and will combine the North American and European box office a few years after that.
China don't dig faggots (or non-white and Asian leads for that matter)
Same reason Bond won't be anything other than a white man. (Even tho I personally don't care, as long as it isn't a women. Gillian Anderson? pssh gtfo)
SJW bullshit and identity politics will not survive in big budget blockbusters now and certainly not in the near future.
Not when the population/wealth increases in the world are in patriarchal lands when compared to the West.
In fact I have a personal hope that the Chinese box office and emerging studios in China will bring back masculinity and old school Heroes to the big the screen ala the 1980s.
uncledick said:
I like your optimism, but just as likely we're just going to see more watered-down globalist tropes and nonsensical cutaway scenes pandering to the overseas audience.
None of the top draws to China's box office in the last ten years or so have been John Wayne type movies either, and if Hollywood feels a serious need to customize it's pretty easy to cut a sixty second homoerotic scene from a movie to ship overseas.
uncledick said:
This is true. China is now the biggest box office draw. It's also why I laugh when SJW say we need more diversity in film. The Chinese don't want to watch Asian leads, female leads, diverse leads… They are the market, and they generate the profits.
Hollywood will learn soon enough when film after film tanks.
Its also the #1 news item on Facebook.
So much news today on all kinds of things and the #1 thing to worry about is whether a fictional character in a movie should be gay...or hell dont even worry about it.....just give him a boyfriend whether he wants it or not. Right. Idiots.
Hmmm.....there is a trend here.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/ran...tm_content=facebook&utm_campaign=elsa-actress
So much news today on all kinds of things and the #1 thing to worry about is whether a fictional character in a movie should be gay...or hell dont even worry about it.....just give him a boyfriend whether he wants it or not. Right. Idiots.
Hmmm.....there is a trend here.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/ran...tm_content=facebook&utm_campaign=elsa-actress
Tim in real life
Woodpecker
Whatever happened to "MY JIZZ, MY BIZ"? BIZNATCHES, PLEASE! I cannot fucking believe this Victorian-style thirst is still around.
I read something about Chris Evans and how he wasn't really sure about doing Captain America.
He had some hesitation after Fantastic Four.
I don't want to try and see too much into it - but he wanted it to be something he could be proud of. Didn't want to ride another disaster - partly for his career, but also a little bit of pride.
I can respect someone having a little pride if it makes them want to do a good job. I can't respect pride when it doesn't allow you to learn anything, can't admit you are wrong, or gets people killed.
Where have you been? That was last week.
He had some hesitation after Fantastic Four.
I don't want to try and see too much into it - but he wanted it to be something he could be proud of. Didn't want to ride another disaster - partly for his career, but also a little bit of pride.
I can respect someone having a little pride if it makes them want to do a good job. I can't respect pride when it doesn't allow you to learn anything, can't admit you are wrong, or gets people killed.
Bacchus said:
Where have you been? That was last week.
LeoneVolpe said:
Nah.
You can come back.
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Captainstabbin said:
I can think of several likely reasons why they push to retcon existing characters in preference to demanding original LGBTBBQEIEIO characters in comics.
I suspect those who push for such things sincerely do so as a shortcut to visibility and acceptance for the targeted brand of snowflakery. They recognize, consciously or not, that any new character created with their particular quirk from the beginning will be little more than a token, as it will have no background or persona independent of the identity issues being pushed in the name of "inclusiveness" and "diversity". Worse, the authors/artists would be so constrained in handling the character with the required sensitivity and authenticity while avoiding any stereotypes or the appearance of appropriation that they couldn't possibly make it interesting - it would be transparently 100%-pure Mary Sue. So, not just a token but a risible and boring one, and therefore an embarrassment to the group it was intended to represent and promote a positive image of.
Retconning an existing character exploits the "goodwill" earned from previous work to get around this. You already know the character, so its human shortcomings and tragic flaws and lapses in judgment necessary for an interesting story are individual traits and don't reflect on the victim group it now suddenly represents. And the character can be just as obnoxiously preachy about the message as a token, but the obnoxiousness is tempered by the bookshelf of non-message past work stretching out behind it. Not to mention that that goodwill greases the skids for acceptance in the same way a personal relationship in real life can survive one of the parties "coming out": "Okay, sure, he's gay, but he's still the same Bob I've known all these years." They anticipate a gradual "getting used to it" by the audience after the shock wears off, and are happy to accept this as "acceptance" no matter that it's a counterfeit one.
On the other side, though, are the people pushing this as an expression of spite. As others have stated above, these "activist fans" only seem to go after the superheroes who are moral and masculine (with the possible exception of Spiderman, who strikes me as emo), as an obvious effort to destroy traditional male role models by making a mockery of their morality and masculinity. Some of the spiteful activists probably just enjoy destroying the happiness of those who disagree with or reject them by vandalizing something those people revere, rubbing their noses in things they don't care enough about or would simply rather not see.
But there's also an element of intellectual corruption at work. Just as with propaganda and rallies and such in tyrannical regimes, the point of the exercise is to undermine your integrity by coercing you to play along with the charade that something you know is bad or wrong or false is in fact good and right and true: "Cap has always been teh gay with Bucky". These sorts of people may indeed love the oppressed as much as they claim to, but in the end they hate other people's notions of virtue and integrity even more, and delight in tearing them down. Even if doing so entails hypocritically "shaming" those notions of virtue and integrity by associating them with a cause that they themselves champion as good.
Obviously, the latter goals are things you simply cannot accomplish with original, built-to-spec SJW characters.
The (relative) normalization of homosexuality has made traditional male friendships almost impossible in media and real life.
Bucky and Steve grew up together, fought together and would have died for each other - For the longest time, Steve thought Bucky did die for him. For Steve, it's only natural to go to hell and back for his friend because Bucky would do, has done, the same for him.
It's something that is alien to many today (especially leftists, though perhaps that goes without saying), mostly for two reasons: The shared experiences that forge such bonds have largely disappeared. We no longer build things ourselves, we don't need to hunt or grow our food and even the gentlemen's clubs of days long past have been disappeared by 'progress'.
The second & more insidious reason is that the language has changed around us. That homosexuality is considered 'normal' or 'acceptable' has poisoned the well for men everywhere. Almost anything you could do with a friend can have the undertone of 'was that gay?', even when nothing of the sort was intended or implied on any level by either party. Since for many people now that is the default assumption for two guys doing things together.
This has been on my mind since I recently read this article, and I've probably done a pretty average job of summarizing it but it's definitely worth a read if you've the time. I think I was linked to it from this forum, so some of you have probably read it before.
Bucky and Steve grew up together, fought together and would have died for each other - For the longest time, Steve thought Bucky did die for him. For Steve, it's only natural to go to hell and back for his friend because Bucky would do, has done, the same for him.
It's something that is alien to many today (especially leftists, though perhaps that goes without saying), mostly for two reasons: The shared experiences that forge such bonds have largely disappeared. We no longer build things ourselves, we don't need to hunt or grow our food and even the gentlemen's clubs of days long past have been disappeared by 'progress'.
The second & more insidious reason is that the language has changed around us. That homosexuality is considered 'normal' or 'acceptable' has poisoned the well for men everywhere. Almost anything you could do with a friend can have the undertone of 'was that gay?', even when nothing of the sort was intended or implied on any level by either party. Since for many people now that is the default assumption for two guys doing things together.
This has been on my mind since I recently read this article, and I've probably done a pretty average job of summarizing it but it's definitely worth a read if you've the time. I think I was linked to it from this forum, so some of you have probably read it before.
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You know what it really is? Faggots and all the other sexual deviants and SJWs out there are moist for Chris Evans. They give zero fucks about Captain America. By all accounts Chris Evans is an excellent example of a modern white, masculine, cocksure, hetero male. He's the kind of guy who's had no problems attracting women. The deviants covet him because they can't have him. By demanding that Captain America become gay, it allows their fantasies to become a little closer to reality.
Doubt Cap' will give up Agent 13 anytime soon.
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Hollywood will never just create an original superhero that just happens to be gay. The LGBT crowd has an underlying desire to subvert and pervert, so the creation of a gay icon is not enough for them. They must convert an existing, masculine, upstanding character in order to sow the seeds of doubt in the minds of people who are unsure of themselves that they could be gay.
The natural assumption of a person is to associate heterosexual with good, and Captain America sets a very high moral standard. If someone at his level could be gay, failure to live up to the natural, instinctual standard of good becomes acceptable to impressionable minds. Other posters have articulated the idea that Steve's and Bucky's friendship was once normal for heterosexual men, but that kind of behavior reflexively gets a "no homo" out of most men today. The LBGT agenda is not just to create visibility for homosexuals, but to rebrand everything as gay to create confusion.
Homosexuals rely on conversion to grow their numbers and to introduce novelty into their degenerate sex lives. Simply creating a gay character, no matter how well-written the movie/comic/etc. might be, does not serve that need to convert.
The natural assumption of a person is to associate heterosexual with good, and Captain America sets a very high moral standard. If someone at his level could be gay, failure to live up to the natural, instinctual standard of good becomes acceptable to impressionable minds. Other posters have articulated the idea that Steve's and Bucky's friendship was once normal for heterosexual men, but that kind of behavior reflexively gets a "no homo" out of most men today. The LBGT agenda is not just to create visibility for homosexuals, but to rebrand everything as gay to create confusion.
Homosexuals rely on conversion to grow their numbers and to introduce novelty into their degenerate sex lives. Simply creating a gay character, no matter how well-written the movie/comic/etc. might be, does not serve that need to convert.
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