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<blockquote data-quote="Johnnyvee" data-source="post: 1274962" data-attributes="member: 13195">Yes, I think this is an excellent idea if you can manage it. I`ve tried, but failed to completely quit caffeine as of yet. As to the alleged positive effects of coffee in particular, well I could write at least 50 paragraphs on that subject, from the perspective of a biologist. But Imagine that you did a study with the title; `Crack cocaine is associated with lower a incidence of insulin resistance, T2D and obesity in adults.` That would essentially be true! Have you ever seen an obese junkie? I sure haven`t. You could replace cocaine with cigarettes and get much of the same effect. And you could also, but to a lesser extent replace it with coffee (and moderate alcohol) What I think happens here is that these drugs replace other substances that have various side effects. Since basically everybody in industrial societies are addicts, it`s a question of what is the least damaging addictive substance. If you get your dopamine rush from coffee, that might mean you`re less likely to overeat for example, which could explain the apparent contradiction observed with coffee and insulin. Namely that it raises insulin in healthy adults and T2D patiens, but with long term consumption reduces T2D risk/progression. <a href="https://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/27/12/2990" target="_blank">https://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/27/12/2990</a></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Johnnyvee, post: 1274962, member: 13195"] Yes, I think this is an excellent idea [b]if[/b] you can manage it. I`ve tried, but failed to completely quit caffeine as of yet. As to the alleged positive effects of coffee in particular, well I could write at least 50 paragraphs on that subject, from the perspective of a biologist. But Imagine that you did a study with the title; `Crack cocaine is associated with lower a incidence of insulin resistance, T2D and obesity in adults.` That would essentially be true! Have you ever seen an obese junkie? I sure haven`t. You could replace cocaine with cigarettes and get much of the same effect. And you could also, but to a [u]lesser extent[/u] replace it with coffee (and moderate alcohol) What I think happens here is that these drugs replace other substances that have various side effects. Since basically everybody in industrial societies are addicts, it`s a question of what is the least damaging addictive substance. If you get your dopamine rush from coffee, that might mean you`re less likely to overeat for example, which could explain the apparent contradiction observed with coffee and insulin. Namely that it raises insulin in healthy adults and T2D patiens, but with long term consumption reduces T2D risk/progression. [URL]https://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/27/12/2990[/URL] [/QUOTE]

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