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<blockquote data-quote="Kid Twist" data-source="post: 1274986" data-attributes="member: 10894"><p>First off, let me state that I don't believe anything that creates an addiction, or withdrawal symptoms, is an optimal strategy. Having said that, this thread is typical of our personalities in the red pill world that can go too far if not considered carefully, tending more towards black/white thinking that can cause people to stray from proper thinking overall.</p><p></p><p>Let's get this back actually to the science or physiology of/related to caffeine, and remind people of a few things:</p><p></p><p>1. It is the only "OTC" substance <em><strong>proven </strong></em>to be a ergonomic enhancer, both mental and physical. That is why it is included in every energy drink. If you don't believe this, go ask the military about their people and your conspiracy and get ready for them to laugh at you. Or any manufacturer of those mini bottles with XYZ ... and always of course caffeine within the list. This is known by every researcher in the world, exercise physiology and otherwise.</p><p></p><p>2. Yes, half life is about 6 hours; it can be used responsibly, of course as it is with humans --- it is used among other things and in combination many times, irresponsibly. It is, for all intents and purposes, safe as far as pharmacology is considered.</p><p></p><p>There's not really much more than these two things, biologically.</p><p></p><p>I personally like the taste, I like the motivation it gives me, but I realize that it does diminish your sleep quality, though alcohol crushes your sleep quality in comparison (there is no comparison). I found this when the last few times I abstained for 3-7 days (usually if I get sick), my dreaming is majorly increased, or I remembered all of them. I don't drink coffee after noon, I actually can feel how bad it is for me if I do that. I have zero problems with sleep, if I go to bed when I should, as a result.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Mage, you have good ideas there in your post, but what annoys people when you bring up things like this is that your ideas aren't critically assessed. You point out "Christians" --- and you're right --- but then you also later mention secular people who do the same or worse, which completely nullifies your point. I wonder all the time why being a fatass is acceptable at all regarding standards we hold people to. And I talk about how disgusting of an example a lot of priests or bishops are when they are clearly abusing eating because it is a stealth vice or sin, I do agree there too. But this just shows we all have our weaknesses.</p><p></p><p>By the way, of teas, black tea has the highest amounts of caffeine (green tea less); I always wonder how so many people spout this but are incorrect. Yerba mate (a leaf) has more than both but even it is nowhere near the brain blast coffee has with its caffeine content.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kid Twist, post: 1274986, member: 10894"] First off, let me state that I don't believe anything that creates an addiction, or withdrawal symptoms, is an optimal strategy. Having said that, this thread is typical of our personalities in the red pill world that can go too far if not considered carefully, tending more towards black/white thinking that can cause people to stray from proper thinking overall. Let's get this back actually to the science or physiology of/related to caffeine, and remind people of a few things: 1. It is the only "OTC" substance [i][b]proven [/b][/i]to be a ergonomic enhancer, both mental and physical. That is why it is included in every energy drink. If you don't believe this, go ask the military about their people and your conspiracy and get ready for them to laugh at you. Or any manufacturer of those mini bottles with XYZ ... and always of course caffeine within the list. This is known by every researcher in the world, exercise physiology and otherwise. 2. Yes, half life is about 6 hours; it can be used responsibly, of course as it is with humans --- it is used among other things and in combination many times, irresponsibly. It is, for all intents and purposes, safe as far as pharmacology is considered. There's not really much more than these two things, biologically. I personally like the taste, I like the motivation it gives me, but I realize that it does diminish your sleep quality, though alcohol crushes your sleep quality in comparison (there is no comparison). I found this when the last few times I abstained for 3-7 days (usually if I get sick), my dreaming is majorly increased, or I remembered all of them. I don't drink coffee after noon, I actually can feel how bad it is for me if I do that. I have zero problems with sleep, if I go to bed when I should, as a result. Mage, you have good ideas there in your post, but what annoys people when you bring up things like this is that your ideas aren't critically assessed. You point out "Christians" --- and you're right --- but then you also later mention secular people who do the same or worse, which completely nullifies your point. I wonder all the time why being a fatass is acceptable at all regarding standards we hold people to. And I talk about how disgusting of an example a lot of priests or bishops are when they are clearly abusing eating because it is a stealth vice or sin, I do agree there too. But this just shows we all have our weaknesses. By the way, of teas, black tea has the highest amounts of caffeine (green tea less); I always wonder how so many people spout this but are incorrect. Yerba mate (a leaf) has more than both but even it is nowhere near the brain blast coffee has with its caffeine content. [/QUOTE]
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