Good Samaritan repairs woman's car, she falsely accuses him of sexual assualt
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Horus said:
Back in the old days she was a victim. Now she's a SURVIVOR of sexual assault, even though there was no sex and no assault.
This throws into question whether the people who write these stories have any critical thinking skills whatsoever. The old newspaper policy of "not naming the victim" should not apply if there is no one who was victimized.
She should get the death penalty. Death by gangbang.
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Why did they black out her face and not his??? Shouldn't it be the other way around?!?!?
I love this comment in the comment section...
"The local lifesaving club was collecting money and I asked them what they wanted it for. No joke - but they actually have to pay huge insurance premiums against someone suing them for 'inappropriate sexual contact' whilst SAVING THEIR LIVES. Unbelievable"
"The local lifesaving club was collecting money and I asked them what they wanted it for. No joke - but they actually have to pay huge insurance premiums against someone suing them for 'inappropriate sexual contact' whilst SAVING THEIR LIVES. Unbelievable"
This picture is from the news story, Is that her? Next to the guy? Under the car?
This picture was not in my head when they said a guy helped a teenager with her car.
Could this be considered evidence he didn't even flirt with her?
This whole thing could very easily be revenge for an older man not showing sexual interest in a younger woman which, to some women, is unforgivable.
Alternatively, and not to rehash parables about frogs and scorpions, doesn't it seem like a lot of women today are simply acting out like children in a desperate attempt to get men to stop listening to them and start laying down the law?
Like they are uncomfortable with their unearned freedom and are sabotaging themselves because they don't have the courage or the words to say to the world:
Please stop listening to us. We have no idea what to do with freedom. We want you to take the lead without having to say it. Please. Stop. Listening. To. Us.
This picture was not in my head when they said a guy helped a teenager with her car.
Could this be considered evidence he didn't even flirt with her?
This whole thing could very easily be revenge for an older man not showing sexual interest in a younger woman which, to some women, is unforgivable.
Alternatively, and not to rehash parables about frogs and scorpions, doesn't it seem like a lot of women today are simply acting out like children in a desperate attempt to get men to stop listening to them and start laying down the law?
Like they are uncomfortable with their unearned freedom and are sabotaging themselves because they don't have the courage or the words to say to the world:
Please stop listening to us. We have no idea what to do with freedom. We want you to take the lead without having to say it. Please. Stop. Listening. To. Us.
So young, yet already saddled with a FUPA. Pretty typical for Australia, sadly.
Yeah, this sounds to me like an example of the girl being offended her dumpy pear-shaped body didn't excite the man, and wanting to get back at him. Maybe even a Potiphar's Wife scenario - she makes the move on him, he rejects her, she cries Rape!
Solitaire
Robin
Captainstabbin said:
I'm still catching myself sometimes almost responding when some girl/woman/chick is looking around or calling out for assistance with something. It is especially aggravating when said person has put 0.002 seconds into trying to figure it out themselves. Happens at work constantly - I'm a psych nurse, so surrounded in the hospital ...
It's such a great feeling to simply not react at all. Brings an inner smile every time. The White Knight indoctrination was quite strong during my upbringing. It's taken some effort to overcome.
And now our culture seems to be a runaway train wrt this kind of nonsense. This guy's life is almost ruined? So what if he did proposition her? That warrants jail time? What's the end game here?
Solitaire said:
If you really want to have some fun, when a female asks for help, tell them you are sorry, but you already have a girlfriend.
More fun:
No matter how she reacts, give her the slow clap.
Solitaire said:
It is not just women either. Most of the men(ish) I know are little different.
I tend to be a caring and considerate person, wanting to help. But experience has taught me that 'no good deed goes unpunished', 'nobody appreciates that which they did not earn', 'helplessness is a learned habit', 'give a man a fish....', etc. are all true.
And then there is the imbalance. I used to make time to help others but when I needed something, too bad. So 'no' is the first and only answer to every cry for help.
Sad but the reality is that helping others has become a REALLY bad idea.
Captainstabbin said:
Captainstabbin in action here:
saner said:
At one of my first jobs, it got out that I knew a lot about computers and various software packages. Everybody came to me for help because the IT department would usually take hours if not days to fix anything.
I started telling them I'd look at the problem but, while I'm doing that, they needed to be doing some work for me. That stopped the issue but I was known as the asshole who wouldn't help out, wasn't a team player, etc. I learned to keep my skills private and quickly moved on to another company.
questor70 said:
If so then it is still a win for the enemy because that is what the enemy wants: a divided society where men go their way and women go the other way and every individual goes their own way and is scared of talking to another, there is this deep divide in between all human beings and the government is closer to your soul then a fellow human being.
SlickyBoy
Hummingbird
Mage said:
Great site, thanks for the link - may it list many more, in searchable format.
I also noticed a pattern in most of the pictures of false accusers listed there. They tend to be of less than average beauty, or if they once had above average looks, they are now well past their sell-by date.
Anecdotally, it appears that the false accuser who's in her SMV peak and an HB8 or better in terms of looks is a rare item.
Anyone else notice this?
Captainstabbin said:
Quite.
There was a big thread at The Register Tech blog where people (men) gave their horror stories about helping not just women, but kids. They provided links to real life cases as well as giving personal anedcotes. All with regard to men having their lives ruined (or just their day spoiled) when playing the good samaritan. It was sobering reading.
I will help anyone where I can, but I have to be sure it won't backfire on me. Most of the time you can't tell if it will or not so discretion is the better part of valour.
We live in bizarro world remember, where up is down and wrong is right. Where you aren't allowed to defend yourself in your own home in the case of a home invasion, but you will be required by law to risk your life when a policeman is being stabbed, and if you don't risk your life, you will be imprisoned for failing to act. We are just a hair's width away from that now.
The last couple of times I've helped people I've paid a serious price. Financially and emotionally. It does hurt when people hit out at you and try to fuck you up just for helping them.
Mage said:
Guilty as charged, when you put it like that. You have a point.
But let me put a certain hypothetical scenario to you, which is not so hypothetical.
You jump on a tube train in London after the peak hour. The train is totally empty, except for a very beautiful six year old girl.
You find this odd. Six year old girls shouldn't be travelling alone on a tube train in London.
So you approach, as non-threateningly as you can. Something is not quite right here.
This strikingly beautiful little girl is all smiles and is not threatened at all. She welcomes you with wide open eyes.
"Hi, are you alone? Are you lost? You seem a little young to be travelling by yourself."
'Yes, I lost my mummy and I don't know where she is'
"How did that happen?"
'Don't know...'
Ok, so far so plausible, but in this exact scenario I personally experienced, I started to think it was some kind of setup.
Instinct kicked in and I knew we were a good few minutes between stops, so I walked quickly to each side of the carriage. I was looking for someone that might just appear and say 'eh, where are you taking my girl' - that kind of thing - I didn't know what was going on.
There was not a single soul in the carriage behind us or the carriage in front. This girl was totally vulnerable. I asked her how old she was, as you do. She wasn't English, she was Romanian or Gypsy or something. That led me to think even more this was some kind of ruse.
But no, there was not another human being in sight. The train stopped for a few minutes in the underground as it was want to do between those particular stops coming out from Heathrow.
I dread to think what would have happened to that little girl if some pervert had got his hands on her. She was ripe for the picking. I've had girl friends tell me about being attacked by men on the underground and having to try to poke out their eyes to survive. This little girl would have stood no chance.
But all was well when I came across her path.
My mind was racing by this point. I didn't know what the next move should be. It went a little something like this:
Do I just leave this girl to her fate, or do I get off the train with her and take her to the nearest guard and office? What if there is BTP (British Transport Police) and they spot me? What if it is a set up and the parents or scammers are waiting at the next stop. I still couldn't work out what the game was though. I'm naive.
Maybe I should just get off and walk her to the nearest office all the same, and if I see a female, to tell them: I have just found this little girl alone on the train and I am taking her to safety - if you would like to come with me to make sure she is alright, I would appreciate it.
But still, the whole thing seemed weird. Sure, I wanted to be that white knight, the hero, especially for such a young child, but those spidey senses just wouldn't stop nagging at me.
In the few minutes I had to think while talking to her, I decided in my head what I should do. At the next stop I would tell her to get off and go find a guard and go to the nearest office in the station where the ticket inspectors and CCTV operators hang out. The place you go to pick up your lost property.
I just did not want to risk being seen taking a young child 'to safety' after her parents had alerted the station masters and all eyes were on the CCTV to look out for this little girl.
"I can assure you I am not a pervert, officer, I was merely guiding this young child to safety, not my personal rape van just parked outside"
Good luck with that old story buddy!
My mind was racing. Here I was in a situation where I had to act fast and make the right decision, not just for me but for her as well.
So when the train pulled in to the next stop, I made her get off by herself. I checked the platform and it was totally dead - no people about at all. But that might change at the next corner. It was a chance both she and I would have to make.
She was a bright girl and quite lucid, and seemed to understand when I told her that her parents would be looking for her and she just couldn't stay on the train. If she went to the first 'ticket inspector' she would find, she would be ok. She seemed to understand this and was not put out.
She got off the train and I never saw her again in my life.
I still pray that she was OK. I still pray that I made the right decision.
It was a very bizarre incident. I have no idea how her 'mummy' lost her at such a quiet time of the day. I have no idea if it was actually some kind of setup scenario.
All I knew was a man in his late 30's would have some serious explaining to do if he was escorting a reported lost child to 'safety'.
It all happened so fast.
I still remember her face. She was a very sweet and pretty child with a very trusting nature.
I checked the news that night.
Even then my mind was still racing over the different probabilities of outcome. What if she had met a dark fate? What if I was the last person seen talking to her? The cameras on the platforms, the cameras on the trains? Surely they would vindicate me? Or would they damn me as easily?
I think I made the right decision. For me. For her.
I know that the station she got off on had an office just up the stairs. This was not a 'Warren St.' type meandering and Labyrinth like underworld. Up a small flight of stairs and she would be safe.
If it was a scam or a setup, I still haven't figured out what it could have been. I think that she really did just get lost. Somehow. Fuck knows.
And then part of me wonders about what her fate would have been that evening if she had bumped in to a very different kind of man.
The truth is, I would have had no problem in leading her away with me. She was totally trusting and totally vulnerable. I think I might have mentioned before, but I have a very strange charisma when it comes to young girls. Not young boys. But young girls stare at me, and smile at me. It is strange. They end up hugging me and grabbing on to my legs!
I know what it is now: they can tell the deep love I have for them and the overwhelming need and instinct I have to protect them. They can sense it. Other people have noticed it as well. Women have very sharp instincts when it comes to men. And little girls are sharper again. To an extent.
But none of that would have mattered to that little girl if she had come across the wrong type of man. Predators are good at feigning good intentions and a six year old is easy pickings. Especially her, the sweet child she was.
Some things are best not thought about, but now and again, in those late hours where the dark night of the soul overtakes you...
When that train stopped in the tunnel for five minutes, I was not unaware of the fact of just how vulnerable this girl was. But she was totally oblivious. It just did not enter in to her pretty little head about the 'evils of this world'. I think you know what I am trying to say, so no need to elaborate.
And though I was a good man (and still am), I was still too afraid to really go the extra mile to safety for her, because of the demonisation of all men in our society. And it is ten times worse now. This happened a decade or two back.
Women did this.
Not all men are beasts. Not all men are rapists.
Very few of us are.
But we all get hit with the same stick.
I think if that situation happened today, I would just say 'fuck it' and escort her to safety, consequences be damned. It's never sat right with me just 'abandoning' her like that.
But I sure as fuck wouldn't do that for some dumb bitch by the side of the road who hadn't learned how to change a tyre.
Some things are worth fighting for. Other things just aren't worth the risk.
It's up to each man who ever finds himself in that situation and scenario to act accordingly.
Then to live with the decisions he chose to make.
For better, for worse...
I am happy to be judged by my peers.