Good states to live in the United States

Laner

Hummingbird
Gold Member
I wanted to post here 3 cities (in fairly conservative states) that no one mentions that are worth visiting, since I've been on a big tour of the US this year. I'm a city person, and if there is some place salvageable in the US I'm going to give it consideration.

1) Fort Worth, TX. It's one of the most conservative large cities in the US. If you're a city person like me, you might like it. Laid back. Not like Dallas at all. The crime is low and there is a Republican mayor. There's a good number of museums, and some nice areas with more independent restaurants and coffee shops (7th Street, South side). People are super friendly. And of course, good access to one of the best airports in the US.

2) Tulsa, OK. Oklahoma City is an armpit, but I do like the Tulsa metro a lot. Tulsa delivers an affordable and laid back life with some quirky bars and coffee shops downtown. It's not too corporate, yet there is a significant Christian population and the city is a majority Republican. I think there are some pozzed areas around the university (lots of BLM stuff), but you could easily live in Broken Arrow or someplace in the outskirts and be in an ultra conservative, working class white area and you'll still be able to enjoy the city without being affected by it. But the city itself is good. I enjoyed all the bike lanes and greenery in Tulsa. Overall, it seems like a high quality of life and good cost of living. Not a destination for Californians by any stretch! There are few professional/yuppy jobs here. There's a 10k grant they give remote workers if you move there.

3) Knoxville, TN. I'd say Knoxville reminds me a lot of Tulsa. It's a quirky small college town nobody has a reason to be in unless they are from there. Fairly conservative and working class. Nice downtown area, but good access to nature. Lots of young people here too. Unlike Nashville, Memphis, and Chattanooga, it's not so high crime (people don't realize that about the TN cities).

I did a job in Fort Worth a number of years ago. I remember flying there and thinking too bad the job wasn't in Dallas. Seemed cooler, not sure why. But within a few hours I realized that it was Fort Worth where I should have been excited to see. Everyone I dealt with was awesome. The bar I went to after work was staffed and frequented by beautiful girls, who would go out of their way to welcome me back, their "Canadian". The weather was perfect when I was there, too. It was a bit sprawled, but I found my nice little niche where I could walk around and enjoy the streets.

Good call on Fort Worth.


this is insanity. you're blinded by your bias of growing up in denver and probably also being influenced by spending so much time in boulder over the last decade getting your degrees.


fort collins is cooler than the springs but is smaller and probably lacks the job prospects. cos is just as good, if not better than boulder for proximity to mountain activities (other than living in crested butte or something) but the springs is doing its damndest to poz itself up. denver is literally full, with no housing available, and cos is only an hour south so it's becoming a denver bedroom community. the conservative boomers are what's holding back the flood. once they die off....see ya.


exactly. my man has been spending too much time in the library and lab to notice what he's swimming in


this attitude is the right one and will always serve you well. it's also why the locusts ruin everywhere they move to


this is highly underrated



anyway, i really just wanted to post this video but as i read through the thread, had to chime in on a few comments. @Knight.of.Logos you should honestly stick to an 8-10 hour drive radius from your hometown. don't underestimate how important it is to be close to family, even extended family.

Interesting video. He certainly hit a lot of the right points.

One thing that stood out to me is the family connections for future earning potential. In the west, this is probably a very underrated point; That these small mountain cities do not have boom/bust economies. They move along at a pace that keeps work coming in, but not enough to warrant big expansion. So just showing up to town as a 35 yo single man with no hard skills means certain unemployment. Working remotely changes things somewhat, but then what? What future does this plan visualize?

To some degree this was me. I left my northern rockies oil boom town to travel the world and eventually settled in a big west coast city. Its a 10 hour drive from my family. But it might as well be 100 hours in the winter. I made my way here, making money in a city is not hard, but as this thread attests to, big progressive cities have a very bleak future. My Canadian city might weather the storm a little longer, but I can already feel the anxiety here start to grow.

However, I have decided to stay in the city for the time being. I am not going to sell my place here, but instead find a way to be able to potentially spend 4 months of the year outside the city on some land. Perhaps rent. Perhaps work as a hired hand. Perhaps buy. But in the end I don't think that uprooting my life here and high tailing it to the countryside is a smart move. Staying and fighting for this neighborhood that I have spent almost 2 decades in seems smarter, even as it goes to shit.

Prepare for the worst, but make rational decisions. This is NOT the time to be emotional.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
I was driving across a good chunk of the country over the past week. Appalachian KY stood out to me in a very good way. At least in the area I drove through, which was away from large interstates, was full of salt of the earth type American people. Mask compliance was close to 0% with only staff at chain businesses wearing them and the people I brought it up with had some things to say about the masking stupidity. I also was wearing a leather biker vest with an American flag on it and had no negative reactions to my attire.


One thing that stood out to me is the family connections for future earning potential. In the west, this is probably a very underrated point; That these small mountain cities do not have boom/bust economies. They move along at a pace that keeps work coming in, but not enough to warrant big expansion. So just showing up to town as a 35 yo single man with no hard skills means certain unemployment. Working remotely changes things somewhat, but then what? What future does this plan visualize?

For anyone who can do so or is unemployed it may be worth looking at picking up a trade skill. It's not horribly expensive, there are a lot of ways to do it for free including unemployment training benefits, VA vocational rehab, and other means and if you know how to assess markets you'll find that there are a lot of those rural areas where they're very, very, short handed for competent labor.

Another avenue for office workers are controller and manufacturing software work, which usually means SAP MM. You won't be able to pick a specific location that way

Here is an example role I found. It's an SAP specialist at food manufacturing plant in a rural Midwestern town with a population of under 2,000 people that is an hour away from the closest decent sized city:

The SAP Plant Maintenance Analyst is a hands on expert responsible for SAP ECC PM projects and enhancements. This may include gathering and interpreting business requirements, solution design, working with developers, implementation, and support of process and technology solutions with ECC and other business applications. Job Responsibilities • Perform detailed analysis of complex business process requirements and provide appropriate system solutions; identify, interpret, validate and document customer requirements • Explain business rational for utilizing SAP PM functionalities, identify, evaluate, and propose alternatives software solutions if needed • Facilitate workshops to collect business requirements, identify gaps, issues and work around solutions • Design, customize, configure and testing of PM module • Provide day-to-day production support for PM module • Liaise with business users and other IT teams to troubleshoot, investigate, analyze and solve software and business problems • Document functional specifications, technical specifications, test scripts and test results • Proactively identify and propose business process and/or system enhancements • Work self-directed and independently; may act as subject matter mentor to more junior members and business users • Ability to provide 24x7x365 support Required Education and Experience • Bachelor’s Degree in IT, Business, or a related field • Minimum of 3 years designing and configuring SAP PM modules • Experience with PM module configuration and customization • Experience in preparing training documentation, job aids and conducting super user and end user training


If you don't mind working with what is the most boring piece of software ever created, this role isn't half bad.

In the event of a bad outcome for stability.....you are directly involved in the agriculture supply chain, live in a rural community, and are surrounded by right leaning rural midwestern types all of which are very, very, beneficial to your position during a societal fragmentation.

In the event of a halfway good outcome you have resume experience that will very easily land you a $130k/year salary with a consulting firm or allow you to emigrate to Eastern Europe's growing manufacturing sector with relative ease.
 
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It's pretty good here in the Southern Applachians. Minimal covid fobia here, and I'm not concerned about any antifa bs, since the folks here (me included) just won't tolerate it. It would get shut down promptly if it started. I grew up here but have travelled the world and now I have no desire to leave this place for more than a short trip. My biggest complaint is the summer heat and humidity, which is formidable, especially the older I get. But no place is perfect and the rest of the year is awesome.
 

Monty_Brogan

Woodpecker
Gold Member
It's pretty good here in the Southern Applachians. Minimal covid fobia here, and I'm not concerned about any antifa bs, since the folks here (me included) just won't tolerate it. It would get shut down promptly if it started. I grew up here but have travelled the world and now I have no desire to leave this place for more than a short trip. My biggest complaint is the summer heat and humidity, which is formidable, especially the older I get. But no place is perfect and the rest of the year is awesome.

I’ve been all over, and the heat I felt in WV over the 4th of July was some of the hottest I’ve ever felt. I love to golf but it was too hot, unless I woke up bright and early.
 
Yep, it's not the air temperature as much as the humidity combined with the temp. It gets pretty wicked in July and August. Add some hungry skeeters to the mix and it's really fun.
 
I have found this website to be informative:



You can look at electoral maps of recent elections and see which states vote Democrat and which vote Republican. Not only that, but you can break it down to counties, if you are considering a particular county. It will tell you whether a county voted Democrat or Republican in a recent election, and will tell you the percentage that voted Democrat and the percentage that voted Republican.
 
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Utah, South Carolina, New Hampshire, and Arizona

A transsexual/homosexual Satanist won the Republican primary for sheriff in a county in New Hampshire.

 

Jive Turkey

Sparrow
3) Knoxville, TN. I'd say Knoxville reminds me a lot of Tulsa. It's a quirky small college town nobody has a reason to be in unless they are from there. Fairly conservative and working class. Nice downtown area, but good access to nature. Lots of young people here too. Unlike Nashville, Memphis, and Chattanooga, it's not so high crime (people don't realize that about the TN cities).

Funny to see Knoxville mentioned, I've lived here my whole life. I think it's a great place to live, and people with the RVF mindset would probably enjoy themselves a lot and fit in quite well. Here is a little writeup on Knoxville.

Culture
The first thing that stands out to me is that Knoxville is by far the friendliest city I have ever been to. Cashiers, servers, and even some bouncers are really friendly and chatty. It is basically a local custom that if you lock eyes with someone in public to smile and give a little nod. People are very friendly and extroverted, it is super easy to make acquaintances and develop friendships to the level of work-friend or drinking buddy, but despite living here for my entire life (mid-20s) I "only" have seven really close good friends, and consider myself exceedingly lucky in that regard. I think this is an artifact of southern "politeness" culture. People here are genuinely good natured, but in my experience they're also very whispy. Maybe because it is so easy to get along with people here, that people don't value genuine friendships that much, but it is very easy for the slightest breeze to blow people out of your life. For example, if you change jobs, it is very common that the co-workers you got along so well with will move on in pretty short order.

Gossip is also a really a big problem here. Because you kind of by default have to be polite to everyone, conflicts often never get aired out. I've talked to several people from different parts of the country and they are eternally frustrated by this, which is very understandable. If you can't let small ingressions slide you will probably live with a low level of tensions in your relationships, though this is more common with women I've noticed, but the way conflict is "settled" here, is that it's usually never brought up and if it gets to be too much people just stop talking to each other. In addition, directly calling someone out if you're a guy can lead to a fist-fight. Calling someone who is not your friend an asshole is a pretty large transgression, and basically comes across as an invitation to take things outside. I kind of like that guys here still have that fire in them, but on the other hand it is kind of juvenile, because I feel that southerners, or at least Knoxvillians do have trouble just talking through problems without taking it as a deep attack on the character. Most people here are basically decent, but it is something I think is interesting and worth taking note of. Comparable, to the "Seattle Freeze" mentioned earlier in the thread.

Economy
The economy here is not good. Cost of living is very low, but even then, there is a shortage of good jobs. Median household income is $34,000/year. Median individual income is $23,000/year. If you meet a woman here, there is a 9/10 chance that she is a hairdresser, teacher, server, fast food worker, nurse or unemployed. There just aren't really a lot of "office jobs", especially for how big the city is. A lot of guys work in construction, landscaping (there are a ridiculous amount of landscaping companies here for whatever reason), as truck drivers, or again, are unemployed. I don't meet a lot of welders, electricians or plumbers. I'm guessing it is mostly because those guys will tend to be older, but there isn't much of a union presence, so pay and benefits will not be as good as in other places most likely. There are definitely rich people and rich areas. From my experience, the wealthy people here are doctors, lawyers, higher ups at car dealerships or successful salespeople. Another thing I've noticed (my particular job I deal with a lot of home owners) is that it seems like a lot, maybe the majority of people who own homes here are not Tennessee natives. That may just be my bias, because someone is more likely to stand out if they are from somewhere else, but I think there is definitely a pattern.

The big three employers here for "good jobs" are Pilot Flying J, The University of Tennessee, and Oak Ridge National Lab. If you can get into any of those you will likely have it pretty comfortable, but they are pretty competitive, and I know at least for the UT and ORNL you often have to know someone, and at least at UT a ton of the administrative and maintenance jobs are done by blacks.

All of my friends who got good degrees moved away to different cities to find work, so there isn't much of a "young professional" scene here.

Overall the economy was very much on the upswing until the lockdown, and has bounced back somewhat. I think it was on track to be very good in 10 - 20 years, but as things stand we are very far from from Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville, etc. If you have real skills you can earn a living, but I think earning enough to support a family is very difficult, at least to the level of comfort a lot of people enjoyed when they were growing up. You don't really see a lot of young, married with children families anymore. It is usually the welfare crows that is reproducing, but that is also a national trend.

Dating/Women
Knoxville is a notoriously difficult city to date in! You can google "Knoxville dating" and citydata and reddit threads will come up about how dang hard it is to get a good partner in Knoxville. Almost all of the good girls get snatched up with a dangerous quickness, and young protestants usually get married right after college. Like right after, age 22.5. There is a massive shortage of "economically viable" men here as well, but as I doubt anyone reading this is female, I won't dwell on that issue.

A lot of the women/girls here are fat. Hands down, there are tons of chunkers. You're basically competing for the 25% of girls who aren't overweight with every other guy in the city. The attractive girls know they are a hot commodity and use it to their full advantage. A lot of girls pretend to be Christian/conservative, but that is usually just lip service. The culture of fornication here is just as bad as pretty much anywhere else in the country. I was getting to know a girl recently who asked me my views on sex. I told her I wanted to wait until marriage, and at first she was happy to hear that, but then after a few days wanted to wait until she was with someone she loved. A few days after that she began hinting at when she was with someone in a committed relationship. That was probably just a dangled carrot to try to get some commitment out of me, but is illustrative of the whole mindset. She and I are no longer talking, but on good terms.

Another big gripe that I have is that women here are having their cake and eating it too. They want trad provider males, but they also want to be liberated feminist women. They expect men to pay for absolutely everything, open doors, know how to work on cars, say sir and ma'am to the parents, work like an ox, spoil her, protect her, buy her things, etc. None of these things do I particularly oppose, but then on the flip side, these very same women also want to go out and drink, post slutty pictures on instagram, (but don't her man dare like other girls pictures!), and basically live the cosmopolitan lifestyle. None of the girls know how to cook, clean, or carry out any of the corresponding feminine duties they expect of their men. Another disgusting (in my opinion) trend, is that a lot of men here who do get married work back-breaking jobs with long hours, and their wives have the most pansy-ass fake jobs in the world, like selling candles, being a """""photographer""""", working at a boutique her friend owns, etc. These jobs rarely produce any income for the family, and are basically a fun hobby.

The archetype of the southern gentleman still haunts us, but the sweet loving small town southern girl has finally moved on to the other side. Southern guys simp really hard in their own way, I think basically trying to live up to the positive example set by their own fathers or grandfathers, but the women are trying to live up to the example set by Sex and the City. Ironically, the girls who've treated me with the most respect and decency were liberals from big coastal cities. There are definitely good girls here who are the exception to the rule, but it is difficult to find them.
A lot of girls will tell you they "have bi-polar" (grammar is a little different here too sometimes), but they are really just nasty people. You may have seen this woman freaking out for her husband to take her to the lake. She was from..... none other than Knoxville! I have witnessed this kind of dramatic manipulative behavior first hand from a couple girls, and have heard reports of it from other guys too. I think the woman in this video exemplifies the stereotypical lulu-lemon leach that so many girls here can be.

Church
We skew heavily protestant, but church attendance is very low. Especially among young people. We have a lot of Catholic churches, and two Orthodox churches as well. A big problem with the protestant churches though is that they are basically country clubs. You can also still virtue signal in the south by going to church, so I suspect that a lot of people who go there would be SJWs if they grew up in a different area. Overall church is a mixed bag. You will good Christians there, but it can be difficult to weed them out from pretenders at first.

Recreation
Knoxville is a very fun town if you have friends. Restaurants are not that expensive, we have a couple of good bars, and there is access to the water and mountains everywhere. Tennessee football is also a huge thing. At one point Neyland Stadium was the biggest college stadium in the nation, seating around 110,000 people. We may still be number one, but we always jockey with the University of Michigan and Ohio State for that spot. There is hunting, fishing, and lots of 4WD opportunities if you are into that as well. Lots of people have bonfires as well, which is a great time.

Politics
Knoxville is based and redpilled. People have long been suspicious of the government. The only thing pill people have trouble taking here is the J-pill. Gun ownership is very high. I don't know any households without one. I carry, all my friends carry. If a homeowner sees my piece while I'm at work they usually ask me what I carry and we talk guns for a little bit. People are also very anti-pc here. You can still say fag or nigger in a casual joking way and most guys won't care. They know it's not that serious. Almost everyone has the attitude of "I don't care if you're gay, just don't push it on me". It is the same thing with blacks, no one has a problem being friends with an individual black person, but the agreement is pretty much that black and white values are incompatible. No hard feelings coming from them, but there is a set way of life dear to the people here.

Education
The publics schools are liberal cesspools and so is the University. If you have kids homeschool them or send them to private school. (I recommend Knox Catholic). Don't think that because the normal people here are sane that the globohomo tentacles haven't infected our schools or municipalities.


Hopefully that gives a good overview of what it is like living here. If you have any specific questions PM me or post them here and I can answer them. I would love for more conservatives to move here, because Knoxville is a great place worth fighting for.
 

redbeard

Hummingbird
Moderator
Funny to see Knoxville mentioned, I've lived here my whole life. I think it's a great place to live, and people with the RVF mindset would probably enjoy themselves a lot and fit in quite well. Here is a little writeup on Knoxville.

Culture
The first thing that stands out to me is that Knoxville is by far the friendliest city I have ever been to. Cashiers, servers, and even some bouncers are really friendly and chatty. It is basically a local custom that if you lock eyes with someone in public to smile and give a little nod. People are very friendly and extroverted, it is super easy to make acquaintances and develop friendships to the level of work-friend or drinking buddy, but despite living here for my entire life (mid-20s) I "only" have seven really close good friends, and consider myself exceedingly lucky in that regard. I think this is an artifact of southern "politeness" culture. People here are genuinely good natured, but in my experience they're also very whispy. Maybe because it is so easy to get along with people here, that people don't value genuine friendships that much, but it is very easy for the slightest breeze to blow people out of your life. For example, if you change jobs, it is very common that the co-workers you got along so well with will move on in pretty short order.

Gossip is also a really a big problem here. Because you kind of by default have to be polite to everyone, conflicts often never get aired out. I've talked to several people from different parts of the country and they are eternally frustrated by this, which is very understandable. If you can't let small ingressions slide you will probably live with a low level of tensions in your relationships, though this is more common with women I've noticed, but the way conflict is "settled" here, is that it's usually never brought up and if it gets to be too much people just stop talking to each other. In addition, directly calling someone out if you're a guy can lead to a fist-fight. Calling someone who is not your friend an asshole is a pretty large transgression, and basically comes across as an invitation to take things outside. I kind of like that guys here still have that fire in them, but on the other hand it is kind of juvenile, because I feel that southerners, or at least Knoxvillians do have trouble just talking through problems without taking it as a deep attack on the character. Most people here are basically decent, but it is something I think is interesting and worth taking note of. Comparable, to the "Seattle Freeze" mentioned earlier in the thread.

Economy
The economy here is not good. Cost of living is very low, but even then, there is a shortage of good jobs. Median household income is $34,000/year. Median individual income is $23,000/year. If you meet a woman here, there is a 9/10 chance that she is a hairdresser, teacher, server, fast food worker, nurse or unemployed. There just aren't really a lot of "office jobs", especially for how big the city is. A lot of guys work in construction, landscaping (there are a ridiculous amount of landscaping companies here for whatever reason), as truck drivers, or again, are unemployed. I don't meet a lot of welders, electricians or plumbers. I'm guessing it is mostly because those guys will tend to be older, but there isn't much of a union presence, so pay and benefits will not be as good as in other places most likely. There are definitely rich people and rich areas. From my experience, the wealthy people here are doctors, lawyers, higher ups at car dealerships or successful salespeople. Another thing I've noticed (my particular job I deal with a lot of home owners) is that it seems like a lot, maybe the majority of people who own homes here are not Tennessee natives. That may just be my bias, because someone is more likely to stand out if they are from somewhere else, but I think there is definitely a pattern.

The big three employers here for "good jobs" are Pilot Flying J, The University of Tennessee, and Oak Ridge National Lab. If you can get into any of those you will likely have it pretty comfortable, but they are pretty competitive, and I know at least for the UT and ORNL you often have to know someone, and at least at UT a ton of the administrative and maintenance jobs are done by blacks.

All of my friends who got good degrees moved away to different cities to find work, so there isn't much of a "young professional" scene here.

Overall the economy was very much on the upswing until the lockdown, and has bounced back somewhat. I think it was on track to be very good in 10 - 20 years, but as things stand we are very far from from Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville, etc. If you have real skills you can earn a living, but I think earning enough to support a family is very difficult, at least to the level of comfort a lot of people enjoyed when they were growing up. You don't really see a lot of young, married with children families anymore. It is usually the welfare crows that is reproducing, but that is also a national trend.

Dating/Women
Knoxville is a notoriously difficult city to date in! You can google "Knoxville dating" and citydata and reddit threads will come up about how dang hard it is to get a good partner in Knoxville. Almost all of the good girls get snatched up with a dangerous quickness, and young protestants usually get married right after college. Like right after, age 22.5. There is a massive shortage of "economically viable" men here as well, but as I doubt anyone reading this is female, I won't dwell on that issue.

A lot of the women/girls here are fat. Hands down, there are tons of chunkers. You're basically competing for the 25% of girls who aren't overweight with every other guy in the city. The attractive girls know they are a hot commodity and use it to their full advantage. A lot of girls pretend to be Christian/conservative, but that is usually just lip service. The culture of fornication here is just as bad as pretty much anywhere else in the country. I was getting to know a girl recently who asked me my views on sex. I told her I wanted to wait until marriage, and at first she was happy to hear that, but then after a few days wanted to wait until she was with someone she loved. A few days after that she began hinting at when she was with someone in a committed relationship. That was probably just a dangled carrot to try to get some commitment out of me, but is illustrative of the whole mindset. She and I are no longer talking, but on good terms.

Another big gripe that I have is that women here are having their cake and eating it too. They want trad provider males, but they also want to be liberated feminist women. They expect men to pay for absolutely everything, open doors, know how to work on cars, say sir and ma'am to the parents, work like an ox, spoil her, protect her, buy her things, etc. None of these things do I particularly oppose, but then on the flip side, these very same women also want to go out and drink, post slutty pictures on instagram, (but don't her man dare like other girls pictures!), and basically live the cosmopolitan lifestyle. None of the girls know how to cook, clean, or carry out any of the corresponding feminine duties they expect of their men. Another disgusting (in my opinion) trend, is that a lot of men here who do get married work back-breaking jobs with long hours, and their wives have the most pansy-ass fake jobs in the world, like selling candles, being a """""photographer""""", working at a boutique her friend owns, etc. These jobs rarely produce any income for the family, and are basically a fun hobby.

The archetype of the southern gentleman still haunts us, but the sweet loving small town southern girl has finally moved on to the other side. Southern guys simp really hard in their own way, I think basically trying to live up to the positive example set by their own fathers or grandfathers, but the women are trying to live up to the example set by Sex and the City. Ironically, the girls who've treated me with the most respect and decency were liberals from big coastal cities. There are definitely good girls here who are the exception to the rule, but it is difficult to find them.
A lot of girls will tell you they "have bi-polar" (grammar is a little different here too sometimes), but they are really just nasty people. You may have seen this woman freaking out for her husband to take her to the lake. She was from..... none other than Knoxville! I have witnessed this kind of dramatic manipulative behavior first hand from a couple girls, and have heard reports of it from other guys too. I think the woman in this video exemplifies the stereotypical lulu-lemon leach that so many girls here can be.

Church
We skew heavily protestant, but church attendance is very low. Especially among young people. We have a lot of Catholic churches, and two Orthodox churches as well. A big problem with the protestant churches though is that they are basically country clubs. You can also still virtue signal in the south by going to church, so I suspect that a lot of people who go there would be SJWs if they grew up in a different area. Overall church is a mixed bag. You will good Christians there, but it can be difficult to weed them out from pretenders at first.

Recreation
Knoxville is a very fun town if you have friends. Restaurants are not that expensive, we have a couple of good bars, and there is access to the water and mountains everywhere. Tennessee football is also a huge thing. At one point Neyland Stadium was the biggest college stadium in the nation, seating around 110,000 people. We may still be number one, but we always jockey with the University of Michigan and Ohio State for that spot. There is hunting, fishing, and lots of 4WD opportunities if you are into that as well. Lots of people have bonfires as well, which is a great time.

Politics
Knoxville is based and redpilled. People have long been suspicious of the government. The only thing pill people have trouble taking here is the J-pill. Gun ownership is very high. I don't know any households without one. I carry, all my friends carry. If a homeowner sees my piece while I'm at work they usually ask me what I carry and we talk guns for a little bit. People are also very anti-pc here. You can still say fag or nigger in a casual joking way and most guys won't care. They know it's not that serious. Almost everyone has the attitude of "I don't care if you're gay, just don't push it on me". It is the same thing with blacks, no one has a problem being friends with an individual black person, but the agreement is pretty much that black and white values are incompatible. No hard feelings coming from them, but there is a set way of life dear to the people here.

Education
The publics schools are liberal cesspools and so is the University. If you have kids homeschool them or send them to private school. (I recommend Knox Catholic). Don't think that because the normal people here are sane that the globohomo tentacles haven't infected our schools or municipalities.


Hopefully that gives a good overview of what it is like living here. If you have any specific questions PM me or post them here and I can answer them. I would love for more conservatives to move here, because Knoxville is a great place worth fighting for.
Good share. Your experience in Nashville reflects a lot of what I saw in Louisiana. Women expecting a southern gentleman, but behaving like New York skanks.
 
Good share. Your experience in Nashville reflects a lot of what I saw in Louisiana. Women expecting a southern gentleman, but behaving like New York skanks.
It's the same in Northern Alabama too. The Huntsville area, the Birmingham area, & Scottsboro area are all like that as well. Dating is a chore here just like anywhere else
 

Pendleton

Pelican
Funny to see Knoxville mentioned, I've lived here my whole life. I think it's a great place to live, and people with the RVF mindset would probably enjoy themselves a lot and fit in quite well. Here is a little writeup on Knoxville.

Culture
The first thing that stands out to me is that Knoxville is by far the friendliest city I have ever been to. Cashiers, servers, and even some bouncers are really friendly and chatty. It is basically a local custom that if you lock eyes with someone in public to smile and give a little nod. People are very friendly and extroverted, it is super easy to make acquaintances and develop friendships to the level of work-friend or drinking buddy, but despite living here for my entire life (mid-20s) I "only" have seven really close good friends, and consider myself exceedingly lucky in that regard. I think this is an artifact of southern "politeness" culture. People here are genuinely good natured, but in my experience they're also very whispy. Maybe because it is so easy to get along with people here, that people don't value genuine friendships that much, but it is very easy for the slightest breeze to blow people out of your life. For example, if you change jobs, it is very common that the co-workers you got along so well with will move on in pretty short order.

Gossip is also a really a big problem here. Because you kind of by default have to be polite to everyone, conflicts often never get aired out. I've talked to several people from different parts of the country and they are eternally frustrated by this, which is very understandable. If you can't let small ingressions slide you will probably live with a low level of tensions in your relationships, though this is more common with women I've noticed, but the way conflict is "settled" here, is that it's usually never brought up and if it gets to be too much people just stop talking to each other. In addition, directly calling someone out if you're a guy can lead to a fist-fight. Calling someone who is not your friend an asshole is a pretty large transgression, and basically comes across as an invitation to take things outside. I kind of like that guys here still have that fire in them, but on the other hand it is kind of juvenile, because I feel that southerners, or at least Knoxvillians do have trouble just talking through problems without taking it as a deep attack on the character. Most people here are basically decent, but it is something I think is interesting and worth taking note of. Comparable, to the "Seattle Freeze" mentioned earlier in the thread.

Economy
The economy here is not good. Cost of living is very low, but even then, there is a shortage of good jobs. Median household income is $34,000/year. Median individual income is $23,000/year. If you meet a woman here, there is a 9/10 chance that she is a hairdresser, teacher, server, fast food worker, nurse or unemployed. There just aren't really a lot of "office jobs", especially for how big the city is. A lot of guys work in construction, landscaping (there are a ridiculous amount of landscaping companies here for whatever reason), as truck drivers, or again, are unemployed. I don't meet a lot of welders, electricians or plumbers. I'm guessing it is mostly because those guys will tend to be older, but there isn't much of a union presence, so pay and benefits will not be as good as in other places most likely. There are definitely rich people and rich areas. From my experience, the wealthy people here are doctors, lawyers, higher ups at car dealerships or successful salespeople. Another thing I've noticed (my particular job I deal with a lot of home owners) is that it seems like a lot, maybe the majority of people who own homes here are not Tennessee natives. That may just be my bias, because someone is more likely to stand out if they are from somewhere else, but I think there is definitely a pattern.

The big three employers here for "good jobs" are Pilot Flying J, The University of Tennessee, and Oak Ridge National Lab. If you can get into any of those you will likely have it pretty comfortable, but they are pretty competitive, and I know at least for the UT and ORNL you often have to know someone, and at least at UT a ton of the administrative and maintenance jobs are done by blacks.

All of my friends who got good degrees moved away to different cities to find work, so there isn't much of a "young professional" scene here.

Overall the economy was very much on the upswing until the lockdown, and has bounced back somewhat. I think it was on track to be very good in 10 - 20 years, but as things stand we are very far from from Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville, etc. If you have real skills you can earn a living, but I think earning enough to support a family is very difficult, at least to the level of comfort a lot of people enjoyed when they were growing up. You don't really see a lot of young, married with children families anymore. It is usually the welfare crows that is reproducing, but that is also a national trend.

Dating/Women
Knoxville is a notoriously difficult city to date in! You can google "Knoxville dating" and citydata and reddit threads will come up about how dang hard it is to get a good partner in Knoxville. Almost all of the good girls get snatched up with a dangerous quickness, and young protestants usually get married right after college. Like right after, age 22.5. There is a massive shortage of "economically viable" men here as well, but as I doubt anyone reading this is female, I won't dwell on that issue.

A lot of the women/girls here are fat. Hands down, there are tons of chunkers. You're basically competing for the 25% of girls who aren't overweight with every other guy in the city. The attractive girls know they are a hot commodity and use it to their full advantage. A lot of girls pretend to be Christian/conservative, but that is usually just lip service. The culture of fornication here is just as bad as pretty much anywhere else in the country. I was getting to know a girl recently who asked me my views on sex. I told her I wanted to wait until marriage, and at first she was happy to hear that, but then after a few days wanted to wait until she was with someone she loved. A few days after that she began hinting at when she was with someone in a committed relationship. That was probably just a dangled carrot to try to get some commitment out of me, but is illustrative of the whole mindset. She and I are no longer talking, but on good terms.

Another big gripe that I have is that women here are having their cake and eating it too. They want trad provider males, but they also want to be liberated feminist women. They expect men to pay for absolutely everything, open doors, know how to work on cars, say sir and ma'am to the parents, work like an ox, spoil her, protect her, buy her things, etc. None of these things do I particularly oppose, but then on the flip side, these very same women also want to go out and drink, post slutty pictures on instagram, (but don't her man dare like other girls pictures!), and basically live the cosmopolitan lifestyle. None of the girls know how to cook, clean, or carry out any of the corresponding feminine duties they expect of their men. Another disgusting (in my opinion) trend, is that a lot of men here who do get married work back-breaking jobs with long hours, and their wives have the most pansy-ass fake jobs in the world, like selling candles, being a """""photographer""""", working at a boutique her friend owns, etc. These jobs rarely produce any income for the family, and are basically a fun hobby.

The archetype of the southern gentleman still haunts us, but the sweet loving small town southern girl has finally moved on to the other side. Southern guys simp really hard in their own way, I think basically trying to live up to the positive example set by their own fathers or grandfathers, but the women are trying to live up to the example set by Sex and the City. Ironically, the girls who've treated me with the most respect and decency were liberals from big coastal cities. There are definitely good girls here who are the exception to the rule, but it is difficult to find them.
A lot of girls will tell you they "have bi-polar" (grammar is a little different here too sometimes), but they are really just nasty people. You may have seen this woman freaking out for her husband to take her to the lake. She was from..... none other than Knoxville! I have witnessed this kind of dramatic manipulative behavior first hand from a couple girls, and have heard reports of it from other guys too. I think the woman in this video exemplifies the stereotypical lulu-lemon leach that so many girls here can be.

Church
We skew heavily protestant, but church attendance is very low. Especially among young people. We have a lot of Catholic churches, and two Orthodox churches as well. A big problem with the protestant churches though is that they are basically country clubs. You can also still virtue signal in the south by going to church, so I suspect that a lot of people who go there would be SJWs if they grew up in a different area. Overall church is a mixed bag. You will good Christians there, but it can be difficult to weed them out from pretenders at first.

Recreation
Knoxville is a very fun town if you have friends. Restaurants are not that expensive, we have a couple of good bars, and there is access to the water and mountains everywhere. Tennessee football is also a huge thing. At one point Neyland Stadium was the biggest college stadium in the nation, seating around 110,000 people. We may still be number one, but we always jockey with the University of Michigan and Ohio State for that spot. There is hunting, fishing, and lots of 4WD opportunities if you are into that as well. Lots of people have bonfires as well, which is a great time.

Politics
Knoxville is based and redpilled. People have long been suspicious of the government. The only thing pill people have trouble taking here is the J-pill. Gun ownership is very high. I don't know any households without one. I carry, all my friends carry. If a homeowner sees my piece while I'm at work they usually ask me what I carry and we talk guns for a little bit. People are also very anti-pc here. You can still say fag or nigger in a casual joking way and most guys won't care. They know it's not that serious. Almost everyone has the attitude of "I don't care if you're gay, just don't push it on me". It is the same thing with blacks, no one has a problem being friends with an individual black person, but the agreement is pretty much that black and white values are incompatible. No hard feelings coming from them, but there is a set way of life dear to the people here.

Education
The publics schools are liberal cesspools and so is the University. If you have kids homeschool them or send them to private school. (I recommend Knox Catholic). Don't think that because the normal people here are sane that the globohomo tentacles haven't infected our schools or municipalities.


Hopefully that gives a good overview of what it is like living here. If you have any specific questions PM me or post them here and I can answer them. I would love for more conservatives to move here, because Knoxville is a great place worth fighting for.
I spent a fair bit of time in Knoxville and agree that - for a US city - it is a nice place. I don't know if I would necessarily give such a positive assessment of the political situation. Maybe it was because I was spending most of my time in the Old North and University areas, but the hipster vibe was very strong (although not anywhere near as suffocating as Nashville). It seemed that every church downtown had a rainbow flag and/or refugees welcome sign. They also had a massive pink hat demonstration while I was there. But the presence of a large university is always going to bring a certain undesirable element. Still, one of the few cities in the US where I would consider living if I ever returned to the US and didn't go fully rural.
 

Jive Turkey

Sparrow
I spent a fair bit of time in Knoxville and agree that - for a US city - it is a nice place. I don't know if I would necessarily give such a positive assessment of the political situation. Maybe it was because I was spending most of my time in the Old North and University areas, but the hipster vibe was very strong (although not anywhere near as suffocating as Nashville). It seemed that every church downtown had a rainbow flag and/or refugees welcome sign. They also had a massive pink hat demonstration while I was there. But the presence of a large university is always going to bring a certain undesirable element. Still, one of the few cities in the US where I would consider living if I ever returned to the US and didn't go fully rural.
Yea, downtown/old city you're definitely getting the brunt of the pozz. A lot of the people who live there are transplants. In fact, come to think of it, I don't know anyone I grew up with who lives downtown or in the old city, unless it was during school for student housing. Most of those pozzed morons are from out of state, and unfortunately, they are the ones who more often "get involved" with the community.
 

FullThrottleTX

Woodpecker
So is Nashville a mini New York with also many universities to boot? Or did that happen already 5 years ago?
No. Nashville has no culture whatsoever except the country music culture and "hot chicken". Which may be fine for some of you, but it's extremely hard to compare it to NYC. I take offense to that idea as a former New Yorker.

Problem with Nashville is all the Californians moving there, it's going to be the next Austin, which is another overrated city.
Also, it's not that interesting of a city unless you're really really into country music. Nice people though, but if you're an outsider it's not going to work as well.

re: relocation, FullThrottleTX is going to be FullThrottleFL soon.
 

FullThrottleTX

Woodpecker
Yea, downtown/old city you're definitely getting the brunt of the pozz. A lot of the people who live there are transplants. In fact, come to think of it, I don't know anyone I grew up with who lives downtown or in the old city, unless it was during school for student housing. Most of those pozzed morons are from out of state, and unfortunately, they are the ones who more often "get involved" with the community.
The main issue with Knoxville is the distance from a decent airport. It's kind of isolated.
One man's poz is another's moderately liberal college town. I'm from the Northeast, Knoxville doesn't scare me.
 
How is Alaska? Any thoughts?

It is a massive sized state with a small population density, very remote too.

The nature and the outdoors are absolutely stunning.

There's probably a lot of downsides besides just the cold weather, maybe I'm just seeing Alaska through rose colored glasses.
 

Blade Runner

Pelican
No. Nashville has no culture whatsoever except the country music culture and "hot chicken". Which may be fine for some of you, but it's extremely hard to compare it to NYC. I take offense to that idea as a former New Yorker.

Problem with Nashville is all the Californians moving there, it's going to be the next Austin, which is another overrated city.
Also, it's not that interesting of a city unless you're really really into country music. Nice people though, but if you're an outsider it's not going to work as well.

re: relocation, FullThrottleTX is going to be FullThrottleFL soon.
You missed the point entirely. Of course it has culture. Take all the offense you want, NY is an amalgam consumerist 24-7 economic hub (used to be) with many amenities but also many issues. My focus is that many outsiders are coming in, or transients to "make it". Oh yeah, sounds just like ... you guessed it, New York. Except not as loud, rude or as bad an accent, currently.
 
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