I wanted to post here 3 cities (in fairly conservative states) that no one mentions that are worth visiting, since I've been on a big tour of the US this year. I'm a city person, and if there is some place salvageable in the US I'm going to give it consideration.
1) Fort Worth, TX. It's one of the most conservative large cities in the US. If you're a city person like me, you might like it. Laid back. Not like Dallas at all. The crime is low and there is a Republican mayor. There's a good number of museums, and some nice areas with more independent restaurants and coffee shops (7th Street, South side). People are super friendly. And of course, good access to one of the best airports in the US.
2) Tulsa, OK. Oklahoma City is an armpit, but I do like the Tulsa metro a lot. Tulsa delivers an affordable and laid back life with some quirky bars and coffee shops downtown. It's not too corporate, yet there is a significant Christian population and the city is a majority Republican. I think there are some pozzed areas around the university (lots of BLM stuff), but you could easily live in Broken Arrow or someplace in the outskirts and be in an ultra conservative, working class white area and you'll still be able to enjoy the city without being affected by it. But the city itself is good. I enjoyed all the bike lanes and greenery in Tulsa. Overall, it seems like a high quality of life and good cost of living. Not a destination for Californians by any stretch! There are few professional/yuppy jobs here. There's a 10k grant they give remote workers if you move there.
3) Knoxville, TN. I'd say Knoxville reminds me a lot of Tulsa. It's a quirky small college town nobody has a reason to be in unless they are from there. Fairly conservative and working class. Nice downtown area, but good access to nature. Lots of young people here too. Unlike Nashville, Memphis, and Chattanooga, it's not so high crime (people don't realize that about the TN cities).
I did a job in Fort Worth a number of years ago. I remember flying there and thinking too bad the job wasn't in Dallas. Seemed cooler, not sure why. But within a few hours I realized that it was Fort Worth where I should have been excited to see. Everyone I dealt with was awesome. The bar I went to after work was staffed and frequented by beautiful girls, who would go out of their way to welcome me back, their "Canadian". The weather was perfect when I was there, too. It was a bit sprawled, but I found my nice little niche where I could walk around and enjoy the streets.
Good call on Fort Worth.
this is insanity. you're blinded by your bias of growing up in denver and probably also being influenced by spending so much time in boulder over the last decade getting your degrees.
fort collins is cooler than the springs but is smaller and probably lacks the job prospects. cos is just as good, if not better than boulder for proximity to mountain activities (other than living in crested butte or something) but the springs is doing its damndest to poz itself up. denver is literally full, with no housing available, and cos is only an hour south so it's becoming a denver bedroom community. the conservative boomers are what's holding back the flood. once they die off....see ya.
exactly. my man has been spending too much time in the library and lab to notice what he's swimming in
this attitude is the right one and will always serve you well. it's also why the locusts ruin everywhere they move to
this is highly underrated
anyway, i really just wanted to post this video but as i read through the thread, had to chime in on a few comments. @Knight.of.Logos you should honestly stick to an 8-10 hour drive radius from your hometown. don't underestimate how important it is to be close to family, even extended family.
Interesting video. He certainly hit a lot of the right points.
One thing that stood out to me is the family connections for future earning potential. In the west, this is probably a very underrated point; That these small mountain cities do not have boom/bust economies. They move along at a pace that keeps work coming in, but not enough to warrant big expansion. So just showing up to town as a 35 yo single man with no hard skills means certain unemployment. Working remotely changes things somewhat, but then what? What future does this plan visualize?
To some degree this was me. I left my northern rockies oil boom town to travel the world and eventually settled in a big west coast city. Its a 10 hour drive from my family. But it might as well be 100 hours in the winter. I made my way here, making money in a city is not hard, but as this thread attests to, big progressive cities have a very bleak future. My Canadian city might weather the storm a little longer, but I can already feel the anxiety here start to grow.
However, I have decided to stay in the city for the time being. I am not going to sell my place here, but instead find a way to be able to potentially spend 4 months of the year outside the city on some land. Perhaps rent. Perhaps work as a hired hand. Perhaps buy. But in the end I don't think that uprooting my life here and high tailing it to the countryside is a smart move. Staying and fighting for this neighborhood that I have spent almost 2 decades in seems smarter, even as it goes to shit.
Prepare for the worst, but make rational decisions. This is NOT the time to be emotional.