You wouldn't believe how this country's changed...
Let's watch the sun come up in another town
Try our luck a little further down
I am trying to decide where to move to and weighing criteria:
a. strong 2nd amendment protection - we know Biden is coming for guns.
b. local or independent economy - granted none are truly independent but the more small local farms for example, the better.
c. low population to land ratio.
d. some 'culture' or arts access. I know this 'blues' things a bit, but we need reminders of Civilization and high arts.It could just be seasonal. Many urban symphonies for example, have summer retreats.
e. demographics. Let's just say at "unvibrant" as possible low crime rate, high trust culture.
f. Good ecology/open land.
g. Mountains - traditionally when a people are under siege this is were the people survive. Afghanistan, Spain when it was invaded by Muslims, and well, the US in a decade or so, very possibly
h. good water supply - water shortage /quality is going to be a big issue in the future.
i. Christian population - as 'orthodox' as possible - Mormons are not Christian, and Christian Zionists are heretics. Honestly I don't have a fetish about Protestant, Catholic or Orthodox - I believe you can find good in all of them - and hersey in all - granted mainline protestants are pretty much a dumpster fire but there are some trad Lutherans and Anglicans out there.
j. Cooler climate. I do think things are literally getting hotter whatever the cause
I would not dismiss Mormons out of han
Individually they are honest, nice, but as a group I believe they are inherently subversive and hostile towards the histroric American nation. They were literally outcasts and still resent it.They may not be Christian but being Christian does not automatically make one a good person
Perhaps, that you know of, but you certainly haven't been favored.I've never been discriminated against as a non-mormon.
Yes, as a Mormon nation, don't want to live thereAnd when those winds blow towards our inevitable Balkanization (I would bet on Texas being the first to pull the succession trigger) they may come out of it in the best shape of the lot.
As a resident of a small town in east Tennessee, I regret to report that wokeness is everywhere, even in the brightest-red areas of Republican-majority states. My town is home to a small, 200-year-old, Presbyterian-affiliated liberal arts college that appears to be an island of sanity in higher education. But it’s not, and neither is the rest of the town.
When we relocated here from Austin, my wife and I imagined the school was comparable to Hillsdale College, except nestled in the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains. My wife and I quickly learned the reality is otherwise when a supposedly faith-based lecture we attended on campus was devoted to the teachings of Karl Marx rather than Jesus Christ.
I have multiple family members (and their families) living in Virginia. They all moved there from where I live in a very progressive/globalist state, and the idea for them was looking for lower taxes, lower cost of living in general, and to be able to have a more classic, family-oriented, working class suburban dream type situation like they had (at least an illusion of) when we were all kids.I haven't gone through the entire thread yet but I'm looking to move soon and I got three states in mind:
2. North Carolina
3. South Carolina (Charleston Area Most Likely)
This is the crux of what most Americans are looking for, and is increasingly difficult to find. The marketed dream of 50s America is enticing, yet ever more elusory. It's clear that in this post-modernist phase, where every Joe Shmoe and his kid has smartphone, it's impossible to revert to the stage where society was high-trust, low-tech, and all-around pleasant. Demographical changes and technological "advances" have destroyed this model of living, and it's clear that there is no going back. It will be difficult if not impossible for most Americans to accept their reality, for it is not what was marketed to them.I have multiple family members (and their families) living in Virginia. They all moved there from where I live in a very progressive/globalist state, and the idea for them was looking for lower taxes, lower cost of living in general, and to be able to have a more classic, family-oriented, working class suburban dream type situation like they had (at least an illusion of) when we were all kids.
They describe just about everywhere in Virginia as essentially a beltway suburb, now. Even if a whole city/neighborhood/whatever is full of regular people, the local laws are nonetheless DC-style woke bureaucracy nightmare and the culture suffers as a result.
Keep in mind, too, that these are fundamentally liberal people talking. It'd be one thing for a LITERAL NAZI like me to worry about DC/cosmo bullshit spreading like a virus, but these are regular schlubs who are broadly progressive and, like I said, would kinda just like to have the illusion of the 90s back and be left alone, hardly extreme reactionaries or anything. They're concerned and exhausted by this.
For what it's worth....
Is there a list somewhere of towns/cities that have rejected mask mandates in the states that don't have a state-wide requirement? Rejecting or mandating masks is a good litmus test for choosing a place to live.
Definitely not Virginia. Governor and both houses of the legislature have flipped Socialist. Removed all of the statues, give ANTIFA things a pass, but ban protests by Trumpers.I haven't gone through the entire thread yet but I'm looking to move soon and I got three states in mind:
2. North Carolina
3. South Carolina (Charleston Area Most Likely)
Yes I really appreciated your input in this thread. My wife is Vietnamese and it sounds like we are both looking at very similar places here.You may have seen what I have written on this thread already, but some of your criteria are the same as mine.
1. Anything in the PNW and Rockies are pretty good for 2A. Of course I am assuming you want something rural or small town.
2. Tax wise WY and WA are good, with OR and MT having no sales tax. I find OR to be a pretty cheap place overall compared to other regions.
3. There is pretty much no crime in the small towns of the PNW and Rockies. It can change though depending on the town, of course. High native pop or seasonal workers can skew this trend to be pretty high. But you would likely avoid these towns anyway.
4. For growing, you can't beat WA and OR.
5. Outside of cities, the PNW region is probably 95% white. Natives and a growing Latino pop in some places can make up a decent percentage.
6. You live in nature here. Its all around you, pretty much wherever you go.
7. My wife is Japanese and her family is mostly in Japan so when we explore for land, she is looking for things like food and flights. Food is going to be tough for us as we really like the north eastern Washington and north west Idaho areas. Coeur d'Alene has some great spots and some Asian groceries, and is much more livable than Spokane. North of there is Sandpoint which is pretty touristy and is comfortable for Asians. I have been watching Priest Lake area go nearly 100% California in the past years with homes in the $10m range now. Its mind blowing, but there is something to be said about living where the super rich are pouring into. They think Priest Lake is a big secret, and to some extent it is, but only to their liberal friends down south. I really like the Pend Orielle region for good land.