Google internal memo on gender gap triggers everyone

[kazz]

My current place of work is down with the PC big time, an the women all being uni educated or current students just see it all as normal. It involves some moving a lifting and Manuel work at times, its funny how I am the only one that notices that it is always a male staff member picked for that, the girls moan oh so heavy etc etc. the other day two female staff members had to lift and move a reasonably awkward sort of heavy table that we lift all the time and would not think to ask for help. The females would take twice as long to do the same job.

The girls are fine doing some of the work to, but its is just insanity to pretend that all is the same. We are not nor could ever possibly be equal, we are just different.

Women will only be interested in something because they have to be for a job, male interests extend much more than this, as do women's in certain areas, women arent going to be into tech any more than they are into cars or hunting, sure some are because they have brothers or father taught them etc. But in general they are not.

 

[Enoch]

Any woman who has ever been to the gym should know that there are fundamental differences between the sexes. On a typical day at my gym the MOST fit woman, if she even dares to use the free weights, cannot replicate the set of the LEAST fit man.

Most women will actually admit to this, but then REFUSE to take it a step further and admit that gender differences manifest themselves in non-physical ways as well.

 

[kavi]

It's not a question of whether women are equal or not. The question is does Google have the moral authority to tell it's employees that women are equal to men as technologists and that the industry/society is biased against women. The answer is no. This is no different to Google telling it's employees a certain religion is wrong, or certain cultural or societal values are wrong.

"At Google, we’re regularly told that implicit (unconscious) and explicit biases are holding women back in tech and leadership."

If Google wants to tell it's employees to hire more women, it can do so. If it wants to force it's employees to believe women are being held back due to cultural biases then that is not acceptable, as it can cause cognitive dissonance, and therefore, stress, to thoughtful people.

 

[Leonard D Neubache]

I haven't worked in female dominated fields for a while now but I used to have a lot of fun with it when I did.

I have a sort of a knack for shitlording right on the edge of provability when I'm in person, so when women would talk about female equality I would strike up my best Willy Wonka style meme face and do the whole "tell me more" routine.

Believe me when I say, these morons thrive on locking horns knowing full well that the entire apparatus of the state will white-knight for them and crush anyone who's stupid enough call them out on their bullshit, but one of the few ways to really really get under their skin and make them question their little religion is to just sit there smugly and force them outline the whole stupid concept in detail while providing that niggling but uncertain sense that you think they're a fucking idiot.

For them, their usual spiel either gets total submission (ego rush) or almost immediately someone disagrees and these totalitarian harpies get to go full-retard on them with impunity (ego rush).

But if you subtly undermine their sense of righteousness without providing them with a solid excuse to go apeshit at you then they're forced to actually make their case at length, which in short order begins to sound as ridiculous to them as it does to us.

Eventually they'll be confused that their little sermon has left them feeling oddly hollow and drained. At that point you can get up, flash them a huckster's smile and say "y'know, I just can't wait to see how it all works out."

 

[Blaster]

SJWs always project: http://www.unz.com/isteve/another-r...ifesto-is-this-paranoid-projection-or-a-plan/

Apparently, using logical arguments to question infiltration and domination of SJW thought police is tantamount to infiltration of white supremacists.

 

[kosko]

Does anyone out there want to talk about age discrimination at places like Google? I am 46 years old and have in this god forsaken business for 19 years. I have a 135 IQ and got a 790 on the SAT in math. I am willing to bet you guys anything that I could never get a job there.

Based on this, I wouldn't be surprised at all if there is sexism there. I work in this industry. I know that most of the managers in this business are fucking dickheads, especially the ones at techie companies.

I am not saying there will ever be lots of women in this field. Most women would rather do jobs that involve working with people than working with ones and zeroes.

Lots of people do talk not about this. The topic of the blatant ageism in Tech where trailblazers and forefathers, who self taught and read crappy books in the library to learn programming, are left to rot on the sidelines. Tech today views old folks as a threat, that will instill too.much com.on sense and discipline and essentially end the "party" for many of these reformed needs and autistics who are now the cool kids after growing up be runny nose'd losers.

Once you hit age 40, if you're not in the "club" they view oubas a fossil. Many articles about how when older folks do get on to Tech companies they get treated odd and unfair and many times flash with younger folks inability to communicate and the pervasive passive aggressive style of interaction. Meanwhile, senior manager and execs are barley 30 years old and the old timers can notice critical issues a mile away but there experience is ignored and not valued. It is all completely backwards from how it should be. Old timers have a war chest of knowledge and young people should seek the mentorship and advice from what old people can offer. Why old timers in tech are not brought it, at minimum, as esteemed consultants blows my mind quite frankly.

Typically, these older voices are quiet as they are with families and obligations, maybe they are still involved in Tech in some related capacity but msny are not and are wasting away decades of knowledge and not using it to its full capacity.

 

[kavi]

Well, yes, too many tech companies have ping-pong tables in the office. Very adolescent..

 

[kosko]

I haven't worked in female dominated fields for a while now but I used to have a lot of fun with it when I did.

I have a sort of a knack for shitlording right on the edge of provability when I'm in person, so when women would talk about female equality I would strike up my best Willy Wonka style meme face and do the whole "tell me more" routine.

Believe me when I say, these morons thrive on locking horns knowing full well that the entire apparatus of the state will white-knight for them and crush anyone who's stupid enough call them out on their bullshit, but one of the few ways to really really get under their skin and make them question their little religion is to just sit there smugly and force them outline the whole stupid concept in detail while providing that niggling but uncertain sense that you think they're a fucking idiot.

For them, their usual spiel either gets total submission (ego rush) or almost immediately someone disagrees and these totalitarian harpies get to go full-retard on them with impunity (ego rush).

But if you subtly undermine their sense of righteousness without providing them with a solid excuse to go apeshit at you then they're forced to actually make their case at length, which in short order begins to sound as ridiculous to them as it does to us.

Eventually they'll be confused that their little sermon has left them feeling oddly hollow and drained. At that point you can get up, flash them a huckster's smile and say "y'know, I just can't wait to see how it all works out."

Yea, always. Once women get past the talking points when they actually have to map out and explain how their utopia works they can never do it.

"Chirrrppp Chirrrppp... We need more women on Boards, more women Execs... Chirrrppp"

Then you ask how that will come about, how is a Board created etc. They won't have a clue. All those solutions involve the Govt intervening, versus action from women themselves.

"Chirrrppp we need laws to make Broads 50% women .. Chirp"

Okay, so, woman dominated boards would have to be 50% men, the biggest female reproductive health Corp, should then have 50% men in the board.

"Chirrrppp... We no, that wouldn't be right Chirrrppp"

But it would be the law now so we have no choice.

 

[budoslavic]

Free Speech Platform Gab Wants To Hire Google’s Anti-PC Manifesto Author

Gab.ai, the famously free-speech friendly social media platform, has extended a job offer to the Google staffer currently facing a backlash for writing an internal memo criticizing political correctness at the company.

The memo, entitled “PC Considered Harmful,” criticized Google for maintaining an atmosphere of political groupthink, in which employees with viewpoints that challenge leftist narratives are forced to keep their mouths shut for fear of losing their jobs. He also criticized Google for ignoring the latest research on gender differences and their interplay with the lack of women in STEM jobs.

With the employees career under attack by SJWs inside and outside Google, the CEO of Gab.ai has now offered the still-unnamed staffer a job in the event that he is forced out of Google.



In a comment to Breitbart News, Gab CEO Andrew Torba said:

Gab supports the free and open expression of all ideas. What this document and the reaction to it prove is that Silicon Valley exists in a bubble world where Wrong Think is not permitted.

They preach tolerance and yet are intolerant of any conservatives ideas. They praise diversity and yet shun conservatives out of their workplace. They applaud the bravery of folks who speak out when it aligns with their own far-left agenda, but scorn a conservative who dares to stand up for what they believe in.

The Ideological Echo Chamber has now been exposed for the world to see. We plan to continue to magnify this message and the voices of others who are brave enough to risk their job to take a stand against the cultural Marxism and far-left status quo hypocrisy of Silicon Valley.

More screenshot images of Liberal Googlers' meltdown. They sure are mad as hell! :lol:

Damn proud that someone wrote an anti-diversity memo to trigger his fellow co-workers!

 

[budoslavic]

Angry SJWs are not pleased over the memo.

 

[KrisGLWorldwide]

I have no public opinion on the actual content of this memo, because I want to focus on what I consider to be a more pressing issue.

How the hell did this guy, who is supposed to be a GOOGLE CODER, have the time to write all this? Only thing I can think of is he was frustrated because there were too many women in his division, and he blamed some lack of productivity on them. In which case, he'd have a much easier time focusing on those individuals' performance individually.

Google letting this leak is ridiculously bad business as well. They are truly taking over, because they are now leading the social discussion as well as the "digital revolution." LOL they co-opted talk-to-type programs, business listings, digital advertising, and now they are challenging Vice and preparing to eat Breitbart as well. Bow down to your new lord and master. Hail Google.

If I was the boss, I'd tell all these idiots to get back to work so that when I searched for "ways to get laid," I wouldn't end up with websites on Sealy Posturepedic fricking mattresses. Hey stupids, the autocorrect is still crap. FIX THAT.

 

[Jetset]

Looks to me like Joel Becker has put it in writing that he's stolen two days of company time to go be moody and is now openly insubordinate.

This is almost as stupid as publishing the manifesto in the first place.

 

[TooFineAPoint]

Amazing how many tough guys (and "gals") work at Google, from their responses about wanting to punch, attack, beat up, silence, etc the memo writer.

 

[GreenHills]

Looks to me like Joel Becker has put it in writing that he's stolen two days of company time to go be moody and is now openly insubordinate.

He spent two days being angry. I spent two days being entertained. It's all good in the end.

opcorn2:

 

[Jetset]

Burn the building to the ground?

Ooo, that's an HR meeting and some anger management counseling.

 

[John Michael Kane]

Google SJW response: This guy is a bigot! Let's fire him, punch him and blacklist and censor him. That will show him how to be inclusive!

 

[Delta]

Reading through this thing more carefully, I can see how the guy thought it was a good idea to send. Notice all the disclaimers about how people must still be treated as individuals, about how racism and sexism are still legitimate issues, etc., as well as the equivalencies he draws between left-wing and right-wing biases. All in all, the essay is very carefully measured to be inoffensive to anyone who actually takes the time to read and understand every point. So the guy thinks to himself "If I fully explain where I'm coming from, people will see that I'm just a rational truth-seeker rather and not some kind of raving bigot."

Where he goes wrong is in assuming that SJWs themselves are rational truth-seekers. In other words, he gives his colleagues too much credit, believing that those ideologically opposed to him are still mature enough to make a good-faith effort to comprehend and rationally discuss a mildly taboo point of view. And frankly, while I would never believe such a thing about women's studies majors, I could've easily made the same mistake about Google engineers.

This goes to show that even the best and brightest SJWs cannot be reasoned with like adults, which is a bit surprising.

 

[scorpion]

SJW logic:

- There is no God and all that exists in the universe is material.
- Evolution explains the existence of all living organisms.

BUT

- Despite evolution over countless millennia that has resulted in obvious and indisputable physical differences, all human races have EXACTLY THE SAME brains. Despite being physical organs of the body, brains are exempt from evolutionary pressures. You bigot.
- Despite men and women having a laundry list of physical differences a mile long, men and women have EXACTLY THE SAME brains. Evolution shaped male and female bodies for drastically different purposes, and yet ENTIRELY IGNORED THE BRAIN, the most important organ of the body.

This is literally what these people believe. It's outright cognitive dissonance. The same people who will mock creationists, up, down and sideways, will swear to their dying breath that evolution had no impact on the human brain. They are forced to hold conflicting ideas in their head at the same time, because if they admit defeat on either point their entire edifice crumbles to dust. In other words, these people must quite literally make themselves insane in order to adhere to their ideology. This is why there is no arguing with them. They can't be convinced by logic because their position is inherently illogical. These people believe that human beings evolved from rocks but at the same time that human brains are not subject to evolutionary pressure and thus differentiation. What the fuck do you even say to that? This is literally the starting point of their entire worldview, and it makes no fucking sense at all. There is nothing there. The entire thing is a giant stinking mound of bullshit from square one, which is why these people never even begin to argue facts and just complain about hurt feels. But their feelings aren't really hurt. What's hurt is their brains - they don't like the feeling of cognitive dissonance they suffer when confronted with the irreconcilable "logic" of their belief system.

 

[Highpool]

Why are we seeing this memo, and why are we seeing Google's reaction to it? Who put all this on the internet for the public to see, anyone know?

ETA: Vice says 8 Google employees tweeted about it, then an anonymous Google employee contacted them directly to give them the full internal memo and talk about everything that happened.

I'd bet money that James Damore is that anonymous Google employee.

Imagine a timeline where Damore wrote that memo, circulated it, got ostracized by Google for it but the whole thing was kept quiet. He still gets blacklisted from the SJW tech industry but no one who might be sympathetic to him gets to hear his story. Why would he risk rocking the boat like that?

People say he was misguided and don't know what he was getting himself into.

I say he realized that his clock was punched at google and devised this whole thing as an exit strategy. Shiv Google until they reveal the most toxic aspect of their internal culture, then shine a spotlight on it and viral it on social media. And do it all while writing in a tone that reads as acceptable and conciliatory to normies.

Speculation, but I'd be shocked if I were wrong about any of it.

Everyone knows how violently defensive SJWs are of their beliefs, most of all the people who work with them day in and day out. How could anyone think someone wrote a memo like that and expected a reaction different from what we got?

 

[John Michael Kane]

Someone inside Google was so offended that they leaked it to the press.