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<blockquote data-quote="JayJuanGee" data-source="post: 390257" data-attributes="member: 5330">Finally IIMT you are making some sense.. and I am not trying to rag on you... but we are getting closer and yes, this is not obama or some republican that is causing these shut down talking points or the underlying financial dynamics.. these are wealthy people stealing from the US people.. and their shutting down the govt is part of the staging of theatrics and acting as if the US is broke when we are not.&nbsp; Anyhow, you and I are not so far apart if people talk like real people&nbsp; about these various issues and reason rather than talking through fox news or the tea party funder talking-points.Certainly also you and I can agree that we do not want to be treated like greece, spain, portugal or italy... and in essence these analogies to treat our debt like household debt does not apply to govt debt and especially US govt dept b/c of our unique lucky situation of having the dollar standard ...&nbsp;&nbsp; In this regard,&nbsp; trying to force us into austerity measures is something that was caused by wealthy people taking trillions of dollars from the treasury and the fec and then acting like we do not have money for social programs.. and many Americans see through that baloney, even though from time to time it can be very confusing for us to keep our eyes on the ever moving ball.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JayJuanGee, post: 390257, member: 5330"] Finally IIMT you are making some sense.. and I am not trying to rag on you... but we are getting closer and yes, this is not obama or some republican that is causing these shut down talking points or the underlying financial dynamics.. these are wealthy people stealing from the US people.. and their shutting down the govt is part of the staging of theatrics and acting as if the US is broke when we are not. Anyhow, you and I are not so far apart if people talk like real people about these various issues and reason rather than talking through fox news or the tea party funder talking-points. Certainly also you and I can agree that we do not want to be treated like greece, spain, portugal or italy... and in essence these analogies to treat our debt like household debt does not apply to govt debt and especially US govt dept b/c of our unique lucky situation of having the dollar standard ... In this regard, trying to force us into austerity measures is something that was caused by wealthy people taking trillions of dollars from the treasury and the fec and then acting like we do not have money for social programs.. and many Americans see through that baloney, even though from time to time it can be very confusing for us to keep our eyes on the ever moving ball. [/QUOTE]

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