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<blockquote data-quote="The Beast1" data-source="post: 1565746" data-attributes="member: 4882"><p>I saw you edited the 2nd half of your post to include this and I wanted to reply to it without having to redo what I wrote before.</p><p></p><p>I've trying to figure out my faith since 2013 when I was a broken soul destroyed from pick up. The baptists picked me up and "fixed" me but only temporarily. My spirit was left wanting more.</p><p></p><p>I went back to the Lutherans which was my childhood church where I spent most of my time in the choir. I found my place, temporarily. Really I just liked singing classical spiritual music. Then work sent me abroad. I still found decent Lutheran churches but sadly this high church tradition is dying in American Lutheran churches.</p><p></p><p>Praise music isn't enough and I'm not about to go back to the Catholicism after years of hearing how the Papacy is the seat of the antichrist.</p><p></p><p>There's a ROCOR priest who was a former Lutheran. His name escapes me at the moment but he's often posted here. He said ," Lutheranism is about as close to orthodoxy as you can get." I can concur with that. The motions are all there but it feels incomplete and missing something.</p><p></p><p>Why was I seeking out old 100 year old Lutheran churches with beautiful stained glass? Are these not icons?</p><p></p><p>I recently prayed to theotokos for the first time to help guide me to a more stable job so I could better support my family after seeing the thread about why we venerate Mary. I found one. I believe.</p><p></p><p>There's a thread floating around where I describe both my wife and I saw a black mass of something in front of us in the middle of the night. Shortly there after, she miscarried. I hung an icon I had purchased as a souvenir during our trip to Jerusalem of the last supper above my bed and we haven't seen anything since.</p><p></p><p>Clearly this mere image of Christ and his disciples has power to keep away bad spirits. Should I not venerate it for keeping us safe while we sleep? It's clearly doing something!</p><p></p><p>Then after a long hiatus from the forum, I stumble on some of your blog writings and I'm blown away. In such a sort time the power of Christ's salvation through Orthodoxy has quickly turned you into a shining beacon of hope while I've been meandering and half assedly doing my own motions. Clearly you're onto something.</p><p></p><p>Then I discover this great book: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Augsburg-Constantinople-Correspondence-Theologians-Confession/dp/0916586820" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Augsburg-Constantinople-Correspondence-Theologians-Confession/dp/0916586820</a></p><p></p><p>To which I learned that Marty Luther and Philipp Melanchthon had esteemed to create a church that was indistinguishable and in communion with the church of the east. The only reason it didn't come to be was because they died before they could reply to Patriarch Jeramiah leaving the replies to their less than capable understudies.</p><p></p><p>Clearly the founders of the Lutheran reformation wanted to be one with the true church of the east. Ok, I'm sold. </p><p></p><p>My new church's patron saint famously fasted from his mother's breast on Wednesdays and Fridays while an infant. Does this sound absurd? Heck no, that's the power of Christ's grace in action even in the very young. That's not dogma, that's <strong>fact</strong>.</p><p></p><p>The best part about relearning the bible was having those old misinterpretations be cut down through the strength of those more rooted than I am. Trust me, I've seen demons and been in the hell hole.</p><p></p><p>But you'll have to forgive me because I have two (soon to be 3) others I have to weigh in also during our inquiry which is why I am seeking the guidance of an in-person priest. Through God's grace, the Greek Orthodox church I found has been exactly what we are looking for.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Beast1, post: 1565746, member: 4882"] I saw you edited the 2nd half of your post to include this and I wanted to reply to it without having to redo what I wrote before. I've trying to figure out my faith since 2013 when I was a broken soul destroyed from pick up. The baptists picked me up and "fixed" me but only temporarily. My spirit was left wanting more. I went back to the Lutherans which was my childhood church where I spent most of my time in the choir. I found my place, temporarily. Really I just liked singing classical spiritual music. Then work sent me abroad. I still found decent Lutheran churches but sadly this high church tradition is dying in American Lutheran churches. Praise music isn't enough and I'm not about to go back to the Catholicism after years of hearing how the Papacy is the seat of the antichrist. There's a ROCOR priest who was a former Lutheran. His name escapes me at the moment but he's often posted here. He said ," Lutheranism is about as close to orthodoxy as you can get." I can concur with that. The motions are all there but it feels incomplete and missing something. Why was I seeking out old 100 year old Lutheran churches with beautiful stained glass? Are these not icons? I recently prayed to theotokos for the first time to help guide me to a more stable job so I could better support my family after seeing the thread about why we venerate Mary. I found one. I believe. There's a thread floating around where I describe both my wife and I saw a black mass of something in front of us in the middle of the night. Shortly there after, she miscarried. I hung an icon I had purchased as a souvenir during our trip to Jerusalem of the last supper above my bed and we haven't seen anything since. Clearly this mere image of Christ and his disciples has power to keep away bad spirits. Should I not venerate it for keeping us safe while we sleep? It's clearly doing something! Then after a long hiatus from the forum, I stumble on some of your blog writings and I'm blown away. In such a sort time the power of Christ's salvation through Orthodoxy has quickly turned you into a shining beacon of hope while I've been meandering and half assedly doing my own motions. Clearly you're onto something. Then I discover this great book: [URL]https://www.amazon.com/Augsburg-Constantinople-Correspondence-Theologians-Confession/dp/0916586820[/URL] To which I learned that Marty Luther and Philipp Melanchthon had esteemed to create a church that was indistinguishable and in communion with the church of the east. The only reason it didn't come to be was because they died before they could reply to Patriarch Jeramiah leaving the replies to their less than capable understudies. Clearly the founders of the Lutheran reformation wanted to be one with the true church of the east. Ok, I'm sold. My new church's patron saint famously fasted from his mother's breast on Wednesdays and Fridays while an infant. Does this sound absurd? Heck no, that's the power of Christ's grace in action even in the very young. That's not dogma, that's [B]fact[/B]. The best part about relearning the bible was having those old misinterpretations be cut down through the strength of those more rooted than I am. Trust me, I've seen demons and been in the hell hole. But you'll have to forgive me because I have two (soon to be 3) others I have to weigh in also during our inquiry which is why I am seeking the guidance of an in-person priest. Through God's grace, the Greek Orthodox church I found has been exactly what we are looking for. [/QUOTE]
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