Handing someone the red pill

[zombiejimmorrison]

The Hero's Journey is a good way to analyze whether or not you can help someone. After all, The Matrix adhered pretty strictly to the 12 stages of the journey.

The first five stages are:

1. Ordinary World

This is where the Hero's exists before his present story begins, oblivious of the adventures to come. It's his safe place. His everyday life where we learn crucial details about our Hero, his true nature, capabilities and outlook on life. This anchors the Hero as a human, just like you and me, and makes it easier for us to identify with him and hence later, empathize with his plight.

2. Call To Adventure

The Hero's adventure begins when he receives a call to action, such as a direct threat to his safety, his family, his way of life or to the peace of the community in which he lives. It may not be as dramatic as a gunshot, but simply a phone call or conversation but whatever the call is, and however it manifests itself, it ultimately disrupts the comfort of the Hero's Ordinary World and presents a challenge or quest that must be undertaken.

3. Refusal Of The Call

Although the Hero may be eager to accept the quest, at this stage he will have fears that need overcoming. Second thoughts or even deep personal doubts as to whether or not he is up to the challenge. When this happens, the Hero will refuse the call and as a result may suffer somehow. The problem he faces may seem to much to handle and the comfort of home far more attractive than the perilous road ahead. This would also be our own response and once again helps us bond further with the reluctant Hero.

4. Meeting The Mentor

At this crucial turning point where the Hero desperately needs guidance he meets a mentor figure who gives him something he needs. He could be given an object of great importance, insight into the dilemma he faces, wise advice, practical training or even self-confidence. Whatever the mentor provides the Hero with it serves to dispel his doubts and fears and give him the strength and courage to begin his quest.

5. Crossing The Threshold

The Hero is now ready to act upon his call to adventure and truly begin his quest, whether it be physical, spiritual or emotional. He may go willingly or he may be pushed, but either way he finally crosses the threshold between the world he is familiar with and that which he is not. It may be leaving home for the first time in his life or just doing something he has always been scared to do. However the threshold presents itself, this action signifies the Hero's commitment

http://www.movieoutline.com/article...ic-structure-of-joseph-campbell-monomyth.html

If a man is still in the first stage and buys into the conventional view of the world, it's hopeless to try to help him. I know, I've tried. If he's in the second and third stages you can plant little seeds but expect resistance and a long time before they bear fruit , if they ever do. He has to be ready for a radical break, even if he doesn't know it, and has to be receptive and seeking. He has to know something is wrong with the world, as Morpheus pointed out to Neo. Only then can the mentor come in and offer him the Red Pill.

This trope actually makes a lot of sense, I can even see my own story. You have to be somewhat in a hopeless position to change. I was approaching 22 still a virgin, game was like oxygen and the red pill was life blood.

 

[HawkWrites]

You really have to be careful here, speakeasy. On one hand you have the guys who are willing to receive advice since nothing else has worked and they are ready to change; on the other hand you have the guys who are convinced that their view of the world that doesn't match with reality is the correct one and will fight to protect it.

Anyone who knows me knows I'm not a proponent of advertising red-pill concepts but I do make exceptions. Currently I'm working through RP concepts with my US Air Force officer buddy and trying to help his brother out who's poised to get massively fucked-over. Occasionally I discuss RP stuff at work with another guy who I've been mentoring and trying to pull him out of the hole he's dug.

It's really touch-and-go and you have to gauge whether the person you're talking to is willing to receive your advice.

 

[bojangles]

I believe you've got to be careful and start of easy, first instances would be show him your conquests, maybe take him out for a free drinks and get him talking to women (even if it involves you engaging the group and leading)

"see how easy that was! You had a lot of fun, I could tell"

Then move him onto Roissy - pre-2009, tell him to have a read of all those articles and stories - It may seem like garbage or too far out of the ordinary for him but remind him of your little evening out and say look its real.

Finally move him onto Rollo, who'll unplug him but then you'll have to live through the different stages of red pill epiphany which can destroy a man.

It's a hard task but I trust you can do it, it'll be a slow process with patience required and a lot telling off (like he's a child), I only say this because this is exactly what I had to do with MattC who had a similar situation to your friend. (probably more dire)

 

[OnlyMarryInTajikistan]

My acceptance of these things was incredibly slow. I'm sure it was for most of you.

There were plenty of times where I dabbled for months trying to deny a reality that I later accepted. I remember like yesterday, when in my early 20s I spent a lot of time thinking that sluts were capable of love, I had accepted that women in the West were all whores, but somehow I could get them into a satisfying human relationship. I spent about a year with that weather in my head, the cognitive dissonance and internal battles, until for some reason I was just waiting for a plane at the airport and everything clicked. I came to the conclusion that they weren't good for that, and my standard strategy with them has been the pump-n-dump for over a decade.

These things need to be digested extremely slowly. PUAs realize them over time because they deal with this reality head on, consistently. But most men are not capable of it. You are in your reality and you think you can simply transfer it to him, but you forget how painful and tedious your own transition was.