Have any of you given up on women?

Maddox

Kingfisher
Protestant
...And as we've talked about, this culture even does its best to not make 20 year old girls available to high value men. Does it absolutely cockblock them in every case? No. But it's very, very rare unlike in sane places in the world that still exist, and in a traditional setting like that which most of world history employed (older man, younger woman).

I'd like to know the reason behind the media shaming girls who go for older men when they seem to have no problem with turning them all into harlots. You'd think the Left would be against this type of shaming. But turn on your TV and you'll see other women making fun of their "daddy issues."
 

Parmesan

Kingfisher
Other Christian
I'd like to know the reason behind the media shaming girls who go for older men when they seem to have no problem with turning them all into harlots. You'd think the Left would be against this type of shaming. But turn on your TV and you'll see other women making fun of their "daddy issues."
The black pill is that women in general are out to actively sabotage and deceive their sexual competition (which I tend to believe). They want to leave young women used and abused, while steering them away from older men, who older women virulently resent being lured by younger women.
 

Alexander_English

 
Banned
Protestant
My justification for not trying to get my wife back, but remaining permanently single and celibate instead:

"But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace. For how do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?" 1 Cor 7:15-16

"I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery.” Matthew 19:9

I would also point out, "marriage" as it exists today, as an elaborate, very expensive ceremony geared toward signing an extremely biased and one-sided contract with your State Government. This obviously does not exist in the Bible. In fact marriage ceremonies are not mentioned in the Bible at all. Wedding feasts are mentioned, but no marriage ceremonies. I am not sure if the Orthodox require marriage ceremonies, but I assume so, and I'm not arguing with that because I don't know enough about sacraments. But I am confident when Jesus spoke the following, He was referring simply to intercourse, which in Biblical times was equivalent to marriage. Therefore, a man should strive to have only one sexual partner in life, and if this fails, should dedicate his life to other service. This is highly legalistic reasoning and usually not practical in today's environment, I am just trying to clarify what I think is the meaning of this text, and what is the perfect will of God for us.

And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful to divorce one's wife for any cause?” He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate. Matthew 19:3-6

Christian reasons to "give up on women" and focus on God instead:

To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain single, as I am. 1 Cor 7:8

So, brothers, in whatever condition each was called, there let him remain with God. 1 Cor 7:24

I think that in view of the present distress it is good for a person to remain as he is. Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be free. Are you free from a wife? Do not seek a wife. But if you do marry, you have not sinned, and if a betrothed woman marries, she has not sinned. Yet those who marry will have worldly troubles, and I would spare you that. 1 Cor 7:26-27

I want you to be free from anxieties. The unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord, how to please the Lord. But the married man is anxious about worldly things, how to please his wife, and his interests are divided." 1 Cor 7:32-34
 

Maddox

Kingfisher
Protestant
The black pill is that women in general are out to actively sabotage and deceive their sexual competition (which I tend to believe). They want to leave young women used and abused, while steering them away from older men, who older women virulently resent being lured by younger women.

True, but this was always the case. And yet many younger women still dated older men up until recently. Something else has caused this stigma to develop which is making it hard to attract the attention of young females these days.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
I'd like to know the reason behind the media shaming girls who go for older men when they seem to have no problem with turning them all into harlots. You'd think the Left would be against this type of shaming. But turn on your TV and you'll see other women making fun of their "daddy issues."
"The media" is owned by 4 multi-billionaire companies who operate at the behest of open borders globalist billionaire elites who want the western way of life to be replaced by globalism. One of their main objectives is to destroy the family unit and the easiest way to do that is just like the snake going to Eve with the apple and not to Adam. Women are the vessel through which evil can enter easier as they are easier to manipulate.

If you find a woman, do your best to ween her off of main stream programming. Everything coming out of the main stream, commercials, commentary, etc. is all poison for healthy families.
 

Parmesan

Kingfisher
Other Christian
True, but this was always the case. And yet many younger women still dated older men up until recently. Something else has caused this stigma to develop which is making it hard to attract the attention of young females these days.
What evidence is there that women aren’t dating older men as much now vs the past? From what I’ve gathered, dating apps were actually giving 30+ year old men greater access to young women.
 

TheFinalEpic

Pelican
Catholic
Gold Member
The realization that I've come to is that you will have to take a woman out of this world and into your own world. You will not likely run into a woman that has all the "right" traits in our society, the programming is far too strong from education, media, etc.

What you must look for is potential. A woman who is open and impressionable to the worldview you have established, God, and to family.

Most women are effectively mirrors. What you put out is what you get back, and those that are unwilling to mirror will filter themselves out. It will also come to a point where you have to understand that a woman will show you at face value who she is through her actions.

Understand that to give up on women is to give up on yourself, for your propagation and continuation demands it.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
The realization that I've come to is that you will have to take a woman out of this world and into your own world. You will not likely run into a woman that has all the "right" traits in our society, the programming is far too strong from education, media, etc.

What you must look for is potential. A woman who is open and impressionable to the worldview you have established, God, and to family.

Most women are effectively mirrors. What you put out is what you get back, and those that are unwilling to mirror will filter themselves out. It will also come to a point where you have to understand that a woman will show you at face value who she is through her actions.

Understand that to give up on women is to give up on yourself, for your propagation and continuation demands it.
Excellent post. In today's evil world you have to build your own isolated world, as much as you can, and then bring a woman into it.

This is far easier said than done. But if you try to live in evil clown world and hope your wife will avoid the temptations in front of her, you are very likely to be disappointed.
 

TheFinalEpic

Pelican
Catholic
Gold Member
Excellent post. In today's evil world you have to build your own isolated world, as much as you can, and then bring a woman into it.

This is far easier said than done. But if you try to live in evil clown world and hope your wife will avoid the temptations in front of her, you are very likely to be disappointed.
Removing her from social media (as well as yourself), cutting the cord on television programs, and instilling a habit of reading, cooking at home, and stating your positive opinions on family, children, and self-sufficiency are great steps.
 

darknavigator

Robin
Catholic
True, but this was always the case. And yet many younger women still dated older men up until recently. Something else has caused this stigma to develop which is making it hard to attract the attention of young females these days.

Blame the 'youth culture' which developed in America and Britain in the nineteen sixties. Outside of the Anglosphere women have no problem with significant age gaps.
 

darknavigator

Robin
Catholic
I live in a village in the south east of England. Puritan heartlands. I’ve never witnessed love of any kind amongst the locals. Only drunken Peep Show degeneracy. Everything is flecked with the sh*t of ‘banter’, beer and porn. A revolting country. As Peter Hitchens said, England is sinking, get out now.

That's because England is a post-Christian / neo-pagan society. As Alastair Campbell said "We don't do God". All of Europe is in the same situation.
 

Papaya

Peacock
Gold Member
In story telling parlance...A man is consciously or unconsciously the hero of his own journey. He should avoid women who are competing for the position as ultimately they become anathema...hence villain

A woman should not serve as mentor to a man either as she will lose respect, attraction and ultimately be villain again.

The ideal woman for a man is a reflective & complementary character that is vested and helpful in her hero's journey

Edit: A part of a man's journey is to become worthy of being followed
 
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Parmesan

Kingfisher
Other Christian
Removing her from social media (as well as yourself), cutting the cord on television programs, and instilling a habit of reading, cooking at home, and stating your positive opinions on family, children, and self-sufficiency are great steps.
At that point, you might as well look into joining the Amish or some other traditional culture. Unless you are a complete Chad, on the level of a known pro-athlete or something like that, a modern, western influenced woman isn’t going to sacrifice that much to you. You will have to dig the depths of the lower classes in the rural FSU and maybe parts of Asia/South America to find anyone not fully corrupted by smartphones and western media. Unfortunately, I think most men will be better off looking for someone that’s open to those sort of things, but not necessarily throwing out her smartphone and deleting social media. Would she do it for Chad Chaderson, star quarterback of the local NFL franchise? Of course. Will she do it for your average high beta provider with a respectable condo and late model German sport sedan? Doubtful.
 

TheFinalEpic

Pelican
Catholic
Gold Member
At that point, you might as well look into joining the Amish or some other traditional culture. Unless you are a complete Chad, on the level of a known pro-athlete or something like that, a modern, western influenced woman isn’t going to sacrifice that much to you. You will have to dig the depths of the lower classes in the rural FSU and maybe parts of Asia/South America to find anyone not fully corrupted by smartphones and western media. Unfortunately, I think most men will be better off looking for someone that’s open to those sort of things, but not necessarily throwing out her smartphone and deleting social media. Would she do it for Chad Chaderson, star quarterback of the local NFL franchise? Of course. Will she do it for your average high beta provider with a respectable condo and late model German sport sedan? Doubtful.
Find a woman that loves you.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
At that point, you might as well look into joining the Amish or some other traditional culture. Unless you are a complete Chad, on the level of a known pro-athlete or something like that, a modern, western influenced woman isn’t going to sacrifice that much to you. You will have to dig the depths of the lower classes in the rural FSU and maybe parts of Asia/South America to find anyone not fully corrupted by smartphones and western media. Unfortunately, I think most men will be better off looking for someone that’s open to those sort of things, but not necessarily throwing out her smartphone and deleting social media. Would she do it for Chad Chaderson, star quarterback of the local NFL franchise? Of course. Will she do it for your average high beta provider with a respectable condo and late model German sport sedan? Doubtful.
Yea, it is bad out there. I feel I am often a bridge between the Boomers and the Zoomers. Not just because I am halfway between them in age but also because I have remained single and informed and understand truly the hell the Zoomers are living through. I lived through much of it myself, just not as much struggle with finding employment opportunities v. today, which is way worse for young men as well.

It isn't about being a multi-millionaire celebrity. In fact most of those guys have more problems than all of us for many obvious reasons (fame going to their heads, drugs, easy come/easy go, women seeking them just for their own benefits, etc.).

It is about building yourself up first. Find out what career/money making opportunity excites you. And really hone in on that. Make yourself an expert at something you enjoy AND something that will afford a middle class income. Become more confident through this process. Work on yourself personally, physically, spiritually, etc. Make yourself a confident rock that women cannot help to to notice. Women can read when a man is confident and when he is not. I believe more young women are realizing the "career first" mentality is a trap and they want out if they can find a way out.

Once you are your own man, in your own world with your own healthy social circles, then you bring a woman into that fold. Building up this world is far easier said than done. It might take a decade or longer. But it appears to be the only way to deal with clown world and the distractions women have put in front of them by our hostile elite.
 

Papaya

Peacock
Gold Member
At that point, you might as well look into joining the Amish or some other traditional culture. Unless you are a complete Chad, on the level of a known pro-athlete or something like that, a modern, western influenced woman isn’t going to sacrifice that much to you. You will have to dig the depths of the lower classes in the rural FSU and maybe parts of Asia/South America to find anyone not fully corrupted by smartphones and western media. Unfortunately, I think most men will be better off looking for someone that’s open to those sort of things, but not necessarily throwing out her smartphone and deleting social media. Would she do it for Chad Chaderson, star quarterback of the local NFL franchise? Of course. Will she do it for your average high beta provider with a respectable condo and late model German sport sedan? Doubtful.
^ Youre defeated before you've even played


Part of the deep rot that infects western civilization is the galactic level irony that everything should be easy
 

Maddox

Kingfisher
Protestant
What evidence is there that women aren’t dating older men as much now vs the past? From what I’ve gathered, dating apps were actually giving 30+ year old men greater access to young women.

I'm just going off my own experience here, but I never see older men out with younger women. And younger women are hesitant to even be seen talking to an older man like me.

I've also noticed that not only do younger women put down younger men on their dating profile as their ideal match, but that even middle-aged women now seem to want to date men their own age or younger. This is something you never saw in the past as women would think it was "icky" to date a man younger than them. Now you see it in films and of course real life which reflects art.

It's like the Globalists just want women of all ages dating men under 40 while starving off older men.
 

Blade Runner

Hummingbird
Orthodox
What evidence is there that women aren’t dating older men as much now vs the past? From what I’ve gathered, dating apps were actually giving 30+ year old men greater access to young women.
We aren't talking about "dating". We are talking about serious relationships and in particular, marriage. Admittedly, I don't have the statistics on it but I wouldn't hesitate to bet big money that there are nowhere near the % of any given (decent size) age-gap marriages as in the past. Not even close with intervals of 10-20, broken down however anyone would like (which is fairly arbitrary). One thing that is probably true is that 40+ year gaps are likely the same, but those are essentially meaningless since they are so rare and biologically so ridiculous that they obviously are money marriages in a way unlike any others.
 
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