Have any of you given up on women?

[Road2Damascus]

This guy knows exactly how I feel when it's Friday/Saturday night and I'm sitting alone in my apartment while other men are out on dates with girls or doing things with their wives. He perfectly sums up what it means to be middle-aged and single with no prospects on the horizon.

Had to shut it off after a few minutes, his self-loathing was too much. His basic assumption is incorrect because there are many people in marriages and relationships that are deeply unhappy. You can feel totally alone in a marriage. He seems fooled by social media too where everyone is posting their best selves. The only 3 date thing online is strange as well.

To me the video seems like an attempt to start tapping into the lonely men market, but regardless he has options, leave the west for a bit and make a radical change, change his attitude and beliefs, find God. It's not going to be easy, but making videos on how he's dateless is not addressing the root problems. He needs to do the heavy lifting to figure that out. If he took the video time and practiced his social skills and emotionally connecting with others it would have been a better use of time.

 

[It_is_my_time]

This guy knows exactly how I feel when it's Friday/Saturday night and I'm sitting alone in my apartment while other men are out on dates with girls or doing things with their wives. He perfectly sums up what it means to be middle-aged and single with no prospects on the horizon.

I am just a year older than this guy and I can relate to where he is coming from. Hell, I have never even had a GF before, so he has done more than me. But if I got a chance to talk to him, I would say...

Hey, we were sold a bill of lies. I too thought if I got a college degree, I would make a nice income, have job security, find a good woman, get married, have kids, live happily ever after, etc, etc. But obviously that is not the case. Our married friends are likely under tremendous stress, between job downsizing, increased expenses, evil influences attacking their children, a lack of future for their children, it ain't all roses on the other side either.

So, do we cry about it, or do we make our deceased forefathers proud and say "okay, I didn't start this fight, but I sure as hell will not lay down and let this evil continue"? I take the option of not laying down. So, I found a weekend job that has been a lot of fun. I work 7 days a week, because it gives me something to do. I don't waste money on all the nice furniture I see in your house, I save every penny and invest it. Because the only happiness comes, not from another person, but being free from a job to be who you want to be. And when you become who you want to be, free from a job, free from other's expectations, then you can look for a woman to fit into that world. As long as you are working a job, in a country that hates you, you will constantly be looking over your shoulder and never be the person you want to be, and a woman will not be able to give that to you. In fact, she can only make this situation worse.

 

[Blade Runner]

To me the video seems like an attempt to start tapping into the lonely men market, but regardless he has options, leave the west for a bit and make a radical change, change his attitude and beliefs, find God.

This is what my first reaction was as well. Regardless of how honest it is, it is (whatever people think of this, I don't care) feminine. You can talk to really good friends for a short while about disappointments, but as a man, the venting stuff and weakness doesn't do you or them much good. There's a reason us men don't want to hear that shit from women, either.

At this point, I can tell everyone here that you just have to be ok with it and thank God for all things. Once you are past early 30s in life (in the west) in the west you'll get no social connections and if you are old school and traditional, no one will do anything to hook you up, if anything, they'll subvert your attempts at age gap. For me, even nice or quality girls that are old just don't seem to be worth it at all. If I were 55-60 maybe I would hang out with them, but I'll do that if and when that time hits. For now, it's just best to keep up with your family and try to get to places outside of the country. If that can't happen, let's just be content to help people in these end times scenarios (whether real or perceived), because as many have said, there are millions of people who also wish they were single, tons more will see bad things happen to their children in the next 10 years, etc. Be careful what you wish for. Whether it was my fault or it was just this era, glory to God for all things.

 

[Maddox]

Interesting theory by this guy who says that romance was invented by poor Frenchmen who couldn't compete with other men who possessed more resources.

 

[Steady Hands]

Interesting theory by this guy who says that romance was invented by poor Frenchmen who couldn't compete with other men who possessed more resources.

Thanks for sharing. This guy's channel is excellent.







P.S. This thread title sucks.

 

[infowarrior1]

This is also why Men are giving up on women:

Woman sues her ex for a $200K salary for housewife duties and WINS!​

 

[infowarrior1]

This is what my first reaction was as well. Regardless of how honest it is, it is (whatever people think of this, I don't care) feminine. You can talk to really good friends for a short while about disappointments, but as a man, the venting stuff and weakness doesn't do you or them much good. There's a reason us men don't want to hear that shit from women, either.

At this point, I can tell everyone here that you just have to be ok with it and thank God for all things. Once you are past early 30s in life (in the west) in the west you'll get no social connections and if you are old school and traditional, no one will do anything to hook you up, if anything, they'll subvert your attempts at age gap. For me, even nice or quality girls that are old just don't seem to be worth it at all. If I were 55-60 maybe I would hang out with them, but I'll do that if and when that time hits. For now, it's just best to keep up with your family and try to get to places outside of the country. If that can't happen, let's just be content to help people in these end times scenarios (whether real or perceived), because as many have said, there are millions of people who also wish they were single, tons more will see bad things happen to their children in the next 10 years, etc. Be careful what you wish for. Whether it was my fault or it was just this era, glory to God for all things.Pra

Pray for a change in the West or at least a Righteous Remnant will exit out of the current day Babylon.

 

[Feyoder]

What that's insane....he's not a bad looking guy either. He needs to go out more and be social. He's not a bad looking dude

This guy's problem is 100% non-physical of course.

 

[gegeroy]

I'm 26 and most girls I come across are all about their degrees and want nothing to do with being a woman. They want to travel and it seems they don't trust men or just want to party, live for the world. They truly in my opinion want money and darn if I had the money that'd be cool, even then though would they be loyal or just want the sex and dip when it gets uncomfortable? Not many women in my church to choose from in the suburbs either of Pennsylvania.

I've been trying to give up on women for a minute now, bc it's a painful process and it seems to only be making anxiety worse, but I crave it so badly that it's something I can't escape. I don't know what to do.

 

[Viktor Zeegelaar]

I'm 26 and most girls I come across are all about their degrees and want nothing to do with being a woman. They want to travel and it seems they don't trust men or just want to party, live for the world. They truly in my opinion want money and darn if I had the money that'd be cool, even then though would they be loyal or just want the sex and dip when it gets uncomfortable? Not many women in my church to choose from in the suburbs either of Pennsylvania.

I've been trying to give up on women for a minute now, bc it's a painful process and it seems to only be making anxiety worse, but I crave it so badly that it's something I can't escape. I don't know what to do.

Welcome to the real world bro. You're still young, having to grow into this realization that the world you live in is so messed up that it's virtually impossible to find a woman of the same calibre which would've been virtually 100% of women in any given time in any period of world history in any part of the world in any culture of the world in any context of the world. Just take some time to let it sink in, study where the system is messed up exactly so that you don't step in a minefield and calibrate accordingly. Given your age you certainly don't have to make hasty decisions so use the time to first and foremost educate yourself so that you can make sensible decisions with situational awareness and mental fortitude.

 

[Blade Runner]

The truth is, and the problem, is that if you play odds (one always should) the only opportunities are overseas. The ROI is so low, and the costs so high, I don't even know what age/sweet spot is possible anymore in the west. Young guys don't have wisdom or loot. Old guys have those but are considered to old and age gaps are almost impossible. It's literally a dumb trap. If you can somehow get overseas to a decent spot, you'll see at least that other places, while maybe not perfect, certainly aren't the matrix like the west. It's totally awful. Want black pill?

I know several 40 year old men who aren't ugly, have huge net worth and career success, and are over 6 feet tall. Not only can they not even find a girl who is a 7, at this point they'd have to work so much to keep her, none of it is worth it. Overseas these same men would receive the treatment that girls demand here (but give nothing in return) and the girls are actually 20 over there ... clown world indeed

Escape the matrix, if you can

 

[Maddox]

I like how these women totally BS each other. They are never honest; not even with themselves. At least the fat girl has some self-awareness.

 

[JCSteel]

I spent the better part of the last few months on various dating apps, such as Bumble, Tinder, Upward, and Eharmony. My desire was to meet a good woman although I don't feel ready for marriage; I want companionship with an intelligent, attractive, and funny woman with morals. I talked to a ton of women, and I met a handful. I'm an American and I tend to attract women from other countries, especially Africans, but I'm just not into most foreign accents. I live in a very liberal, secular part of the U.S. too, so there are so many women near me that I have to filter out. Rather than focus on them I'm focused on how to improve myself, but I feel so isolated. Man wasn't meant to be alone but "bad company corrupts good manners", so it's confusing. There are two reasons I don't want to go back on the dating apps, besides the sexual temptations and pornographic images: one, I keep rejecting most women, two, I need to get my life together: I want a new job, new hobbies, and stronger convictions and faith in Christ. But until I get more going on I'll be tempted to go back.

 

[Maddox]

...I need to get my life together: I want a new job, new hobbies, and stronger convictions and faith in Christ. But until I get more going on I'll be tempted to go back.

One reason that I am skittish about getting back into dating is that I feel like I don't have enough to talk about, especially to secular women. My "social life" consists of going to Bible study groups twice a week and once in a while hanging out with men from that group to get a coffee. At my age, it's hard to get to know other people outside of a study group, and unfortunately, the men in the study group are all married and spend most of their free time with their wives.

Meanwhile, the secular women out in the world who I come into contact with are having all of these "experiences." They go to ballgames, parties, and weddings, along with traveling to other countries with their friends. In short, they have a lot more to talk about and make me look boring in comparison. I'm worried that I'd have nothing to say to these women on a date and they'd see that I'm just a guy who leads a boring life.

It's easy to tell someone, "Well...go get a hobby." But that doesn't solve the problem because you're out there doing this activity alone. Even if I hired an instructor to teach me golf or tennis, that won't fix anything because my only interaction would be with the instructor. The problem is that it's too difficult to meet other people these days that you actually want to get to know. Everyone is closed off. And yes...there are Meetup groups, but they are for the lowest social rung of people on the planet. I've tried these. Believe me, I've tried.

So basically, the only way to solve the problem of not having anything to talk about on a date is to either have a girlfriend to do things with (catch-22) or somehow be let into the circle of another group where you are constantly doing things with those people that you actually like. I should get this from the church groups, but I'd estimate 90% of those people are married, and married people rarely have time to spend with their single friends.

 

[JCSteel]

Maddox, I hear you completely, and I've heard women tell me the same thing; they go to a good church but there are no opportunities to meet eligible partners there.

Meanwhile, the secular women out in the world who I come into contact with are having all of these "experiences." They go to ballgames, parties, and weddings, along with traveling to other countries with their friends. In short, they have a lot more to talk about and make me look boring in comparison. I'm worried that I'd have nothing to say to these women on a date and they'd see that I'm just a guy who leads a boring life.

I actually had a friend tell me that I don't have enough going in my life, that I didn't have enough interests or sense of adventure. I think having your priorities centered on God and attending your church activities is a good thing and one that can be made interesting in conversation. But it is hard meeting people who are doing so many things that you're not. Women seem obsessed with travel these days while I haven't been on an airplane since 1996.

The problem is that it's too difficult to meet other people these days that you actually want to get to know. Everyone is closed off.

This.

And yes...there are Meetup groups, but they are for the lowest social rung of people on the planet. I've tried these. Believe me, I've tried.

Me too. I tried several meetup groups throughout my 30's, hiking groups, singles groups, general socializing groups; I'm afraid to say your observation isn't inaccurate.

 

[Blade Runner]

I spent the better part of the last few months on various dating apps, such as Bumble, Tinder, Upward, and Eharmony. My desire was to meet a good woman although I don't feel ready for marriage; I want companionship with an intelligent, attractive, and funny woman with morals. I talked to a ton of women, and I met a handful. I'm an American and I tend to attract women from other countries, especially Africans, but I'm just not into most foreign accents. I live in a very liberal, secular part of the U.S. too, so there are so many women near me that I have to filter out. Rather than focus on them I'm focused on how to improve myself, but I feel so isolated. Man wasn't meant to be alone but "bad company corrupts good manners", so it's confusing. There are two reasons I don't want to go back on the dating apps, besides the sexual temptations and pornographic images: one, I keep rejecting most women, two, I need to get my life together: I want a new job, new hobbies, and stronger convictions and faith in Christ. But until I get more going on I'll be tempted to go back.

Great Menander reference ... St. Paul knew the ancient plays too

 

[Blade Runner]

So basically, the only way to solve the problem of not having anything to talk about on a date is to either have a girlfriend to do things with (catch-22) or somehow be let into the circle of another group where you are constantly doing things with those people that you actually like. I should get this from the church groups, but I'd estimate 90% of those people are married, and married people rarely have time to spend with their single friends.

Society in the west is broken down socially/culturally, pretty close to the maximum. Men didn't really ever have that many similar interests with women, that's why men used to hang with men and women/women, even when married. Let's face it, women aren't all that interesting. Or at least, they aren't interested in the same things men are. Why? They're indifferent to things that don't directly affect them, or that they can see affect them (which is the issue). Unfortunately, the ones that are interesting are typically not good looking - we've talked about why that is so (good looking women don't need to be interesting, as it turns out lol).

The church stuff is pozzed, even for orthodox at this point in the west, sadly. Why? It's a reflection of the society, even though it shouldn't be. That is, the people while in church and in their profession of faith (likely) don't necessarily confirm to the society, but they do in every other way. If you doubt this, try telling a random mom at an orthodox church that her daughter should be married by age 23, for example.

When women don't seek marriage because they don't need to, or think they don't need to, it means everyone is left waiting around in their 30s (and 40s) when social things barely exist anymore (if they ever did), and women aren't attractive anymore. It's just how it is if women don't seek marriage at young ages. The historical context of clown world is that they used to get married at 14-18. Ha, think about that for a second, and you'll stop wondering why the world "progresses" to clownier and clownier, if economy is good.

 

[JCSteel]

Great Menander reference ... St. Paul knew the ancient plays too

Thanks.

 

[Viktor Zeegelaar]

I like how these women totally BS each other. They are never honest; not even with themselves. At least the fat girl has some self-awareness.

Yeah it's nauseating. Makes you realize that it's the men who truly care about the community and society at large. But that's what it is, women are solipsistic and focus on the survival of them and their children. If all else has to perish for that to manifest than that is so. That's also partly why they don't care to destroy the man they've been with for decades, it's all about them and what they can gather before the resources dry up. The not telling the truth also is to avoid conflict, cause women are physically too weak to defend themselves in conflict. Hence they just answer what's socially acceptable. Dreadful for a child by the way to never hear the truth, that explains why many children in single mother households grow up to be completely confused and not rooted in reality: they never have heard honest feedback, so they keep continuing bad behavior with all dreadful consequences as result.

 

[Douglas Quaid]

And yes...there are Meetup groups, but they are for the lowest social rung of people on the planet. I've tried these. Believe me, I've tried.

I'm glad you said this. People have suggested this to me, but the groups are usually people I don't want to hang out with. Same for trying to meet women with dating apps or at bars (very low quality).

The best way I'm learning right now is to not think about it so much and let it happen naturally. Focus on your life (good exercise, sleep, food, hobbies, not being stressed out) and going about your day. This will greatly increase confidence/contentment and women will notice. I like to go to coffee shops and ski a lot, so this is usually where I meet women. It also helps to know the staff at these coffee shops, and some of the other regulars that go there because women can hear you talking and they will put themselves in a position for you to introduce yourself. Or when I'm skiing sometimes I will talk to people on the lift or in the lodge.

Also if you're confident about living a "boring" life, some women might really like it. Partying is boring, the type of traveling these women are doing is boring, their careers are boring and they are trying way too hard to look exciting.

The best thing about golf, skiing, mountain/road biking, kayaking, hiking, etc. is you can do them by yourself and be completely content, or do them with other people that are worth hanging out with. And women usually really enjoy those hobbies too so it's a good way to ask them to hang out.