Have any of you given up on women?

[kazz]

^^ It was in your head because to much time in the internet? Use forums and information to learn is good but you HAVE to go out into the real world with an open mind, look at the negativity of this thread, imagine you took this all on board, dont let random people comments on the internet make you jaded, go to the dog park, even if you dont have a dog, go to the supermarket chat to the person at the check out, you will see that people are just people good parts and bad parts

Be careful you dont end up like a hateful feminist, just on the other side of the scale.

 

[third_eldest]

It was in your head because to much time in the internet?

Mainly because I played too many video games. I decided in 2021 I'd quit video games and start doing things in real life because that's what people who aren't losers do. I also stopped fearing rejection and pursuing girls that didn't want me because I know I'm top tier and its their loss if they don't see me as a good potential partner. Started going to a local college and careers bible study and got a date after getting to know people there for a month. Other dates lined up as well.

 

[La Águila Negra]

Aside from the topic at hand this may actually the most succinct battle cry for Christian conservatives I have come across. I'm going to use that one out there...

Comments by !!!???!!! (no 1) and MusicForThePiano (no 2)

I cope with societal decline by actively rejecting society. There is a strong connection between the micro and the macro. What are some reasons for societal decline? Promiscuity, debt, pornography, mindless media consumption, lack of education, obesity, atomization. There are ore, but lets just take those as an example. So I just do my best to do the opposite. I don't hook up, I am debt free, I don't consume pornography, mainstream tv/movies/music, I educate myself, I exercise, I do what I can to make abiding human connections. It feels like I am giving a middle finger to all the forces that wish ill upon me. Try it, make your existence an act of rebellion.

I think the offensive should be adopted. This "conserve" attitude is a recoil, a defensive and exposed position. It's what got us into this hairy mess with identity politics and all the other assorted bullshit. I live in a bubble I guess, of my own reality. But it is an anti-bolshevik bubble, and wherever I am, there is no bolshevism, and nothing that stems from bolshevism. No groid worship, no semitic preferences, no self-hatred, no ratting on my neighbors, don't talk to women unless they are in the way of something I need to get done, no apologies, and no lying, cheating, or stealing, unless it is to a bolshevik or a servant thereof. What there is, is decency, respect of my parents despite how different I am from them, daily prayers, and focusing on God's mission, which he has for all of us. I have many flaws, but find me one human without such traits and I will acquiesce to their moral highness.

The right mindset and framework to live your life is that of one who is not affected by this modern (aka satanic) world, which is no easy feat. I am not a luddite, but I spread my anti-tech message to most people because it is against nature to have something so invading to even act as a sort of net over our lives. I suppose I will stop posting here one day, when I feel my sentiments are shared by a larger majority, if so.

Powerful. Words to live by.

 

[Timbuktube]

Why do you think this is? I was under the impression that the go-girl culture of the West had not yet tainted those women south of the border.

1. Social media has infected every country on earth. Women’s personalities are a confused combo of thinking of themselves as super high value but deep down knowing they’re worthless consumer slaves addicted to their phones.
2. Pretty much every girls is devoted to school and work. That comes first so no real time for a proper relationship. Yet I still need to travel to them and support them financially.
3 Obesity. 80% fat. Other 20% skinny fat.
4 Feminism BLM Blue Wave etc. Many are radicalized even if they think they are not.
5 USA has no value to them anymore. They’d rather stay in Mexico. Me too.
6. Broken homes. Broken people. No role modeling from mom or dad. Clueless how to behave. Like movie characters. They say dumb things like “Sorry not sorry” because they’re so poorly raised they can’t make a meaningful apology. Nor do they want to.

And so on. It’s a lost cause in my opinion. You can get lucky and find love here. But you’d have to be willing to take too much abuse to stay in a relationship or marriage. Unless you’re desperate I guess. I’d rather kill myself than date most Latinas.

I did date one girl in a non-popular Brazil city that seemed marriage material. I wish I’d been more attracted to her. Or it was a surf city with golf.

-Salinger. Yes I had to watch midnight express in college before my first study abroad program lol.

-Kingfisher. Great minds think alike. Sounds like we’ve had a similar experience, too.

-OP. Great you did Christian thing. I really wish I could believe in God. At this point I might fake it. The whole no sex thing really screws me up too. I don’t even understands the point of dating without it. But I guess that’s because it was my reward for enduring so much bad behavior?

I talk to a Christian woman at the cafe I patronize in Mexico. Told her what a hard time I have trying to date women here. They have such little respect for men.

Her attitude was basically that everything is the mans fault, always. She thought I was poor and that was a problem. She found out I was rich and that was a problem.

She said I had no job that’s bad. I had already given her my book which she ignored. I showed her my investments. Nothing made her take me seriously.

She kept saying “No I don’t mean that!” And coming up with things I should be doing. I wasn’t doing that and it was my problem and fault.

She said I had to get up early every morning and do something. I do I surf. No not that.

You have to stay busy the whole day. I do I write, invest, jog to gym, golcourse.
No not that!

I joked should I start a business? Like a cafe? She said yes that’s what I mean. I pointed out that would be illegal given my immigration status. Besides I make more online.

Then she said I had to volunteer. I told her I do every week at the turtle refuge.

She finally wore herself out coming up with negs about my life. Then prayed for me with her arm shaking.

The Christian women seem just as selfish and negative. There’s no more protective veil around them. Don’t delude yourself.

She herself has messaged me asking for help with things. I take the time to help her. Then she doesn’t bother saying thank you. No manners. Huge red flag.

I do apologize if my posts are negative. There’s positive sides to dating in Latin America but I don’t think that needs much attention or discussion.

 

[The 1 Duke]

Yeah, I gave up, after my second wife. Then I got married again.

Me too after wife 3 and then #4. Last 2 were supposed to be Christians. NOT.
Tough to be a shift worker, the women do not like to sleep alone.

 

[The 1 Duke]

I disagree. Yes, marriage isn't necessary for salvation. But, God did make the woman to be a help-meet for the man, not is the sense that she is a literal servant, but one who completes the man. The man was created by God to be a teacher, a protector and provider. He teaches, protects and provides for women, ordinarily. Man finds the fullness of his masculinity in his relation to women.

Most Christian ladies have forgotten who was created, for who. Rebelling against all male influences whether it be Father, Husband or Our Father in Heaven. Just another sign of the times.

 

[GWYW2015]

Casual sex is great, how can I give up on that?

Sorry, I mistakenly gave you a Like for your comment when I was trying reply to it. Now I see it disappeared so I don't know what is going on with that. I do not agree with your sentiment because the Bible says God will judge fornicators and adulterers. If someone has forsaken that lifestyle then there is God's forgiveness and no judgement. The same grace applies to homosexuality. God is gracious but will not be mocked.

I suffered through 30 years of unwanted singleness and all that goes with it before marrying at 53. I didn't want to wait and wait only to give in.

And casual sex is NOT great. That is a deception. It fulfills no one and the motive is wrong. Married sex is the only safe place that God actually warns us not to avoid when we are married. We must have sex...in marriage...for the other person. That is a completely different dynamic than casual sex.

Casual sex is a mirage and you must give up on that, and not because I said to, because God commands you to. Most of us will suffer that way. It is better to be married.

 

[third_eldest]

Casual sex is great, how can I give up on that?

It's an oxymoron in and of it self, there is nothing "casual" about sex. It's quite literally the most intimate thing you can do with a person.

"Casual" sex is a Jewish lie designed to destroy relations between the sexes and the family unit, because the family the bastion of protection against totalitarianism.

Given things you've said in other posts, I'm inclined to think you are a troll.

 

[kel]

 

[Blade Runner]

He's right about a lot, but only for people who don't know what meaning is, or what God is doing. That doesn't mean we don't still make mistakes, though.

No one remembers great grandfather X, mostly. If Carl got married, he'd still be forgotten, let's be frank. A lot of men were born as boomers. Most in history don't mate. It's not exactly news; the issue is that Carl had every chance in the world to do whatever he wanted. Whether right or wrong, there is one judge.

Also at 20:00:

"balanced out by feminine traits"

I don't see those very often. That's why I have to make a move.

 

[scenicway]

I think Carl is a bit extreme. Guy was a loser. Some valid points though.

 

[kel]

Very extreme, but becoming more common, to be honest. It's easier now than ever to live like that, to tell yourself that Twitter is real life and counts as social life/community. With the lockdown that kind of lifestyle is being essentially mandated for many people who didn't form a solid circle before.

I think a lot of millennials and zoomers will end up living like Carl, except in a hive city. The worst of all worlds.

 

[Grow Bag]

Whats actually better? Anal or missionary sex? What are your experiences?

my, what a persistent imp you are. I think the forum needs a few imp proof hoops to jump through.

 

[lairofdionysus]

I'm 23. Had a girlfriend last year who I met through a friend, but dropped her before I made my move overseas. She was "actively Muslim" , but also completely degenerate, always seeking fornication and easy-dopamine activities (Netflix, etc). She was more feminine than any Anglo woman I've ever known, but that doesn't really say much. Heavily into rap music and "Muslim female independence", I found her to be a bad influence. Soon I would dread having to stay over her place, as she was a net drain on my energy and a risk to my spirit.

Before that, I was not actively seeking a woman. Most females in NYC are a hot mess and suffer from at least one mental illness, in addition to delusion. The "pandemic" hysteria just widened the quality gap considerably. The majority of women were not worth my time, let alone a glance, and that was before they muzzled up. With a mask on they only evoke my disdain.

Until I meet a woman who is as feminine and submissive the Japanese exes I've had, I am abstaining from giving females any of my attentive energy. This is the bar I have set for the next woman. Until then, I will be volcel, focusing on getting closer to God and improving my lot in life.

Great points. In fact, you would think if women were really all that bothered with hiding their identities or beauty from Men (in the desire to attract Men), that they would have more of a disdain for masking and be even more bothered by it and to increase courtship with Men during these times. But they have in fact done the opposite. Not only have women been far more willing to mask up, but they have had total indifference towards Men. The thing is women only take interest, for the most part, in getting the attention of Men, and they rely through digital means of that. Only women who are genuinely attracted to and eager to have Men for who he is and what he looks like, who have the interest to be attractive to him, would remain unmasked and be super bothered by what's going on. But yeah Corona Karens are abound EVERYWHERE.

People who are not bothered by being masked up lack compassion and you have to question how they could possibly go on like this not being bothered by re-breathing in their own breath, burps and sneezes all day long, etc. It tells a lot about the girls.

Also glad you were able to oversee about the "femininity" aspect. A girl can be feminine, traditional, can cook and clean, but what is it all worth if she lacks depth of character and no personality or anything that shows her longing and appreciation of you!? Men can be very quick to ignore all these things, and even the most so-called "conservative / traditional" girls these days are constantly attached to technology. The more people are attached to technology, the less they can have genuine time for people in real life or can be properly social. The more people are involved with technology, the more antisocial traits they will exhibit.

 

[Stadtaffe]

I normally keep away from this thread as the title is too black pilled, as well as most of the content. I gave up on the anglosphere but definitely not on women from continental Europe. Not yet at least. Just can't see what is so terrible about them. Yes most of them are at least slightly affected by the social programming of our times, and some of them are a write-off. That being said, I feel the need to reply to a few things:

OP or anyone feeling this: go to Asia. It will solve your problem.

Good to know, Asia comes recommended as having something so different to the West. Good to know it's there, if one day Europe becomes too bothersome.

Relationships and dating in the West are some of the most complicated in the world.

You might be onto something here.

Serial dating really messes up our timelines. If you don’t marry someone by collegish age, you’re setting yourself up for out of sync timelines when you keep dating as a working adult.

Unfortunately I have managed to get a bit out of sync exactly as you describe, and put it down also to the condom / pill aspect of serial dating. Generally the women have been more brainwashed than me. Still, I'm not in a particularly bad place now.

Asia is definitely something to try. I was 53 when I married my wife in the Philippines after a whirlwind 54-day VLDR. While I wish it hadn't taken me so long to find someone, I did and we are happily married.

That's good to hear, it is probably also hot all year round there which is better than a long, extreme Winter.

 

[GWYW2015]

I normally keep away from this thread as the title is too black pilled, as well as most of the content. I gave up on the anglosphere but definitely not on women from continental Europe. Not yet at least. Just can't see what is so terrible about them. Yes most of them are at least slightly affected by the social programming of our times, and some of them are a write-off. That being said, I feel the need to reply to a few things:

Good to know, Asia comes recommended as having something so different to the West. Good to know it's there, if one day Europe becomes too bothersome.

You might be onto something here.

Unfortunately I have managed to get a bit out of sync exactly as you describe, and put it down also to the condom / pill aspect of serial dating. Generally the women have been more brainwashed than me. Still, I'm not in a particularly bad place now.

That's good to hear, it is probably also hot all year round there which is better than a long, extreme Winter.

March through June is bad, otherwise it is bearable, especially since it gets dark before 6 pm.

 

[Stadtaffe]

That's right I have heard that in the tropics, there is no twilight, the sun goes out like a light switch. Would be interesting to experience.

 

[lairofdionysus]

One thing I've noticed is that there are more men than women in the Millennial generation. Between 1991 and 2001, there was an average of ~80,000 more boys born than girls in the US every single year. If you're a young man who feels like you live in a sausage fest it's because you probably do. https://www.infoplease.com/us/population/births-sex-and-sex-ratio

I haven't given up on women yet, but I agree with you guys that dating in the modern world is discouraging. Personally, I'm the type that "burns with passion," so I'm doing what I can to become a good father if and when I can make that happen. I also have made my share of mistakes in the past, so while I don't want to set myself up for divorce or cuckoldry, I won't hold out for a virgin.

Yes and isn't it interesting how this fact has been kept out and suppressed except for if you purposely look for these statistics on population levels for Millennial girls? We are always bombarded with being told how there are so much more women than Men in the population, but this takes into the account of the entire Female population, and the numbers that make women 51% in the US and in many other countries are a result of the Elderly women who are usually widowed and sometimes living in a nursing home or assisted housing.

The thing is, birth of girls are in regular decline overall, however I have been unable to find specific reasons for this, and could it include more women aborting fetuses if they know that the gender will come out female!? I have no clue but am curious.

Could there also be some factor of more young girls committing suicide which is contributing to this increasing trend? Because they do say suicide is on the rise now with particularly middle aged women and very young girls.

Indeed, we do live in a gigantic sausage fest, and it makes much more sense when you think about it because how do so Many girls have so many Men constantly lined up?

Keep in mind though that if you are even willing to get with a girl who has had 1 sexual partner, she will have less than a 50% chance of being able to pair bond with you. She may even still be very likely to be sleeping with the original partner behind your back. Once she's had 2 partners or more, the stats get even way worse with her inability to pair bond.

 

[GWYW2015]

That's right I have heard that in the tropics, there is no twilight, the sun goes out like a light switch. Would be interesting to experience.

Yes, once the sun goes down, it's not bad.

 

[DeusLuxMeaEst]

I didn't watch the whole video but the Carl guy made several mistakes. Porn addiction, going broke, etc.

It's easy to fall into that trap without faith. At this point I can only put my faith in God to find a wife. At the same time I look at myself and with God's help figure out how to move forward. What I do know is that there are behaviors and habits that I have that make it hard. Mainly in having access to faithful and godly women in my area. Unfortunately many women who are interested I'd never date.

I do believe for most men, the most natural state is to be married and have a family.