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<blockquote data-quote="Elipe" data-source="post: 1515482" data-attributes="member: 17998"><p>What do you think women did before they were permitted to work in a masculine capacity or go to college? Most women were expected to marry. The few outliers would have been shuttled into a monastery or otherwise religious life path. The expectation for men was likewise that they would become providers for a woman and build a family off of that. Again, unless they were outliers in some form.</p><p></p><p>Why are you pretending that history before the 1920s didn't exist? And why are you pretending that a healthy society doesn't have any inherent self-interest in promoting marriage and preparing young men and women for propagating the next generation?</p><p></p><p>Assurance, as we use the word, doesn't mean something like arranged marriage. It means that society tells us: do X and you'll likely get Y. So men do X and a certain, high percentage of men who do X get Y. In this case, X is a prescribed life-path and Y is a stable marriage with children.</p><p></p><p>But we live in a society that is doing its best to destroy that relationship between following society's prescriptions and bearing the next generation. That is what we mean when we say there is no more assurance. Society's prescriptions no longer reflect an effective method for entering the reproductive pool.</p><p></p><p>The PUAsphere understood this. They understood that the sexual dynamics of Western society now resembles that of something more like jungle law than a well-ordered civilization. So men started imitating jungle men, and found success whereas generations of men before them were not placed under a similar sexual pressure to behave like jungle men. If you're familiar with how baby boomers seem completely lost on advising the younger generations on courting women, then you'd understand.</p><p></p><p>The PUAsphere may not have been righteous, but you can't deny that they learned something fundamental that was being intentionally suppressed or hidden.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elipe, post: 1515482, member: 17998"] What do you think women did before they were permitted to work in a masculine capacity or go to college? Most women were expected to marry. The few outliers would have been shuttled into a monastery or otherwise religious life path. The expectation for men was likewise that they would become providers for a woman and build a family off of that. Again, unless they were outliers in some form. Why are you pretending that history before the 1920s didn't exist? And why are you pretending that a healthy society doesn't have any inherent self-interest in promoting marriage and preparing young men and women for propagating the next generation? Assurance, as we use the word, doesn't mean something like arranged marriage. It means that society tells us: do X and you'll likely get Y. So men do X and a certain, high percentage of men who do X get Y. In this case, X is a prescribed life-path and Y is a stable marriage with children. But we live in a society that is doing its best to destroy that relationship between following society's prescriptions and bearing the next generation. That is what we mean when we say there is no more assurance. Society's prescriptions no longer reflect an effective method for entering the reproductive pool. The PUAsphere understood this. They understood that the sexual dynamics of Western society now resembles that of something more like jungle law than a well-ordered civilization. So men started imitating jungle men, and found success whereas generations of men before them were not placed under a similar sexual pressure to behave like jungle men. If you're familiar with how baby boomers seem completely lost on advising the younger generations on courting women, then you'd understand. The PUAsphere may not have been righteous, but you can't deny that they learned something fundamental that was being intentionally suppressed or hidden. [/QUOTE]
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