Health treatments and prevention for Coronavirus

[aeroektar]

RE: Health remedies and prevention for Coronavirus / flu

I used to do oil pulling with coconut oil and a few drops of oil of oregano. Oil of oregano is an extremely strong anti viral. You want this one. It's also very effective topically for things like cold sores. I don't know if it's good to injest this stuff regularly.

 

[Tail Gunner]

RE: Health remedies and prevention for Coronavirus / flu

I don't know if it's good to injest this stuff regularly.

Oregano oil is powerful. I typically use it in cycles, like echinacea. You can use it for a month, then wait a few months and use it again for a month. You can use it for two weeks and then stop for two weeks. You can also use it in a cycle with two or three other herbs and supplements to get rid of a candida overgrowth.

 

[aeroektar]

RE: Health remedies and prevention for Coronavirus / flu

We have stressed Vitamin C in this thread, but there are dozens of other herbs and supplements that act as immune boosters and anti-virals.

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-74749-post-2066694.html?highlight=nebulizer#pid2066694

Yes, it's important to take a multi pronged approach. I haven't begun taking vitamin C yet, but I've been doing a few other things daily to consume lots of natural anti-virals and antioxidants.

Green tea with fresh lemon/lime juice and raw dark honey.

Rice cooked with organic turmeric and crushed garlic.

Oatmeal with cinnamon, blueberries and dark chocolate.

Apple cider vinegar (disgusting, I just pour it in my mouth then chase it with water).

For anyone with a weakened immune system, it's a good time to consume some (unpasturized) sauerkraut, kimchi, or kombucha, all of which are available at every grocery store these days and definitely places like Wholefoods and Trader Joes. The gut microbiome makes up around 75% of the immune system and these things will repopulate your gut much faster then any over priced supplement, not to mention deliver high concentrations of additional vitamins, nutrients and antioxidants.

 

[Cuchulainn2016]

RE: Health remedies and prevention for Coronavirus / flu

I wonder what all those experts here are talking about when vit c is anti-bacterial and ph-levels in food is usually not what destroys your teeth. Since sugary drinks and food has the effect of forming compounds that stick to your teeth and then those compounds feeding on bacteria that destroy your teeth, then this is contrary to the anti-bacterial vitamin C which explains why people who take it for years in higher doses rather have stronger than weaker teeth.

Regarding pH:
Colgate must be lying:
https://www.colgate.com/en-us/oral-...al-health/how-acidic-drinks-affect-teeth-1115

Also, note that it includes a paragraph about sugar-free soda with a pH of 3.0 (ascorbic acid has a pH of 2.0):

Studies have indicated diet soda isn't any more tooth-friendly than regular soda. Although it is sugar-free, it's still overwhelming to your enamel if you drink it regularly. Even surprisingly small quantities of soda can damage your teeth; as little as one glass per day has been linked to damage, according to National Institutes of Health (NIH).

Dentists must be lying:
https://www.citydental.co.nz/customer-stories/simon-acid-damage-with-vitamin-c/

So you are correct but the above two are in on the conspiracy?

The estalibishment attacked vitamin C in doses beyond 200mg for years and years. The claims and supposed studies are out there - saying that it damages your liver, causes ulcers, damages kidneys - and does not work at all.

Again, there's no conspiracy here. And we are talking specifically about tooth enamel - not liver, ulcers kidneys or gums.

It's not that ph-level below a state does not impact teeth to some degree, I just think that the effect is tiny or negligent or multi-dosers or MDs in the field wold have noticed it. That the sugar-pill-vit-c mixture does it is clear.

If you mean negligible - then no, not quite. Here you acknowledge that each effect is 'tiny' - which is in a way correct; now you need to realise that each of these 'tiny' injuries to the enamel caused by the direct pH2.0 ascrobic acid exposure accumulates and you now have a dental health problem.


And yes, some doctors have noticed it - they're called dentists.
https://www.citydental.co.nz/customer-stories/simon-acid-damage-with-vitamin-c/

Repeat direct exposure of enamel to a demineralising agent such as ascorbic acid in the mouth will result in dental erosion.

I've been on high doses for 4 days and my teeth feel like they are dental office clean, also no bleeding gums when flossing.

Vitamin C, via the bloodstream, promotes collagen growth and is excellent for the skin and gums. Highly recommended.

Your enamel on the other hand may feel dental office clean because it's been directly exposed to ascorbic acid, stripping away a minute layer of surface enamel. Now your enamel feels clean but is just that 'tiny' bit thinner each time - eventually, you’re going to run out of layers to strip off and will begin exposing dentin in places. So consume it in high quantities but don't let it come into direct contact with your tooth enamel (even a straw will help... to a degree. Buffered is best).

Maybe im wrong, but did Simeon (or someone else) not say they just took a spoonful of the powder, and they washed that down with some water?

Would that not bypass your teeth, meaning there was no worries about decay caused by the acidity?

 

[Tail Gunner]

RE: Health remedies and prevention for Coronavirus / flu

Maybe im wrong, but did Simeon (or someone else) not say they just took a spoonful of the powder, and they washed that down with some water?

Would that not bypass your teeth, meaning there was no worries about decay caused by the acidity?

Yes, I do not see the point of this debate. You can take tablets, caplets, powder, crystals, etc. -- and simply swallow them.

 

[Nineteen84]

RE: Health remedies and prevention for Coronavirus / flu

^^ Cuchulainn2016, we were discussing the use of vitamin C powder which you mix with water as per the instructions.

TailGunner, sorry you are not understanding the point. Sure you can do whatever you like but swallowing powdered or crystallized ascorbic acid mixed with water will erode the enamel of your teeth.

You mention caplets. Out of all the methods you mentioned, caplets are probably the safest as the vitamin c is not released until its in the stomach (with the shell being digested by stomach acid).

The ascorbic acid powder really messed with my teeth!! I’m guessing the baking soda will solve that problem?

How are you getting it on your teeth? Place a teaspoon of C-crystals in an ounce of water, mix a bit, pour it into the back of your throat, and swallow. About 95% goes down. Immediately follow up with a few swigs of water to get the rest down. I use NOW brand Vitamin C crystals (not powder).

Maybe the powder acts differently?

Again, as I said it will get on your teeth if you take it according to the manufacturers instructions. If you are frequently megadosing it can damage your enamel. Buffered method is a good solution.

Be my guest to brush and bathe your teeth in ascorbic acid if it pleases you - but don't complain when it wrecks your teeth. For everyone else, they can use the knowledge to adjust their consumption method and thus protect their dental health.

 

[Cuchulainn2016]

RE: Health remedies and prevention for Coronavirus / flu

Maybe im wrong, but did Simeon (or someone else) not say they just took a spoonful of the powder, and they washed that down with some water?

Would that not bypass your teeth, meaning there was no worries about decay caused by the acidity?

Yes, I do not see the point of this debate. You can take tablets, caplets, powder, crystals, etc. -- and simply swallow them.

Good, cause my vitamin powder arrives tomorrow!

 

[M3B]

RE: Health remedies and prevention for Coronavirus / flu

Just use a straw to drink?

 

[Nineteen84]

RE: Health remedies and prevention for Coronavirus / flu

^ Yes, if you care about your enamel then anything that reduces exposure helps - use a straw, take in encapsulated form, or use a buffered solution (best imo).

I'm going to make some higher concentration liposomal C - vitamin C solubility is 330 g/L so you can achieve WAY higher concentrations than the commercial versions provide.

 

[roberto]

RE: Health remedies and prevention for Coronavirus / flu

^ Yes, if you care about your enamel then anything that reduces exposure helps - use a straw, take in encapsulated form, or use a buffered solution (best imo).

I'm going to make some higher concentration liposomal C - vitamin C solubility is 330 g/L so you can achieve WAY higher concentrations than the commercial versions provide.

Sounds interesting- datesheet please?

 

[just a human]

RE: Health remedies and prevention for Coronavirus / flu

It looks like Zinc can help.
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[Mountaineer]

RE: Health remedies and prevention for Coronavirus / flu

Yes, I've seen that too. You need chloroquine for the zinc to work inside the cells though. I think it's worth trying to convince your doctor to give you prescription for it as a last resort in a deteriorating case especially when the hospitals get overloaded.

 

[Tail Gunner]

RE: Health remedies and prevention for Coronavirus / flu

Yes, I've seen that too. You need chloroquine for the zinc to work inside the cells though. I think it's worth trying to convince your doctor to give you prescription for it as a last resort in a deteriorating case especially when the hospitals get overloaded.

You might want to examine the side effects of chloroquine before doing so:

https://www.drugs.com/sfx/chloroquine-side-effects.html


The average prescription drug has over 300 side effects (many of which are unseen, but still present). I will stick with natural immune boosters.

 

[Guriko]

RE: Health remedies and prevention for Coronavirus / flu

The Chinese are now actively recommending vitamin C as a treatment option for Coronavirus related pneumonia.

Worth a read.

http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n16.shtml

 

[Simeon_Strangelight]

RE: Health remedies and prevention for Coronavirus / flu

Shanghai Government Officially Recommends Vitamin C for COVID-19
by Andrew W. Saul
(OMNS Mar 3, 2020) The government of Shanghai, China has announced its official recommendation that COVID-19 should be treated with high amounts of intravenous vitamin C. (1) Dosage recommendations vary with severity of illness, from 50 to 200 milligrams per kilogram body weight per day to as much as 200 mg/kg/day.

These dosages are approximately 4,000 to 16,000 mg for an adult, administered by IV. This specific method of administration is important, says intravenous therapy expert Atsuo Yanagisawa, MD, PhD, because vitamin C's effect is at least ten times more powerful by IV than if taken orally. Dr. Yanagisawa is president of the Tokyo-based Japanese College of Intravenous Therapy. He says, "Intravenous vitamin C is a safe, effective, and broad-spectrum antiviral."

Richard Z. Cheng, MD, PhD, a Chinese-American specialist physician, has been working closely with medical and governmental authorities throughout China. He has been instrumental in facilitating at least three Chinese clinical IV vitamin C studies now underway. Dr. Cheng is presently in Shanghai continuing his efforts to encourage still more Chinese hospitals to implement vitamin C therapy incorporating high oral doses as well as C by IV.

Dr. Cheng and Dr. Yanagisawa both recommend oral vitamin C for prevention of COVID-19 infection.

An official statement from Xi'an Jiaotong University Second Hospital (2) reads:

"On the afternoon of February 20, 2020, another 4 patients with severe new coronaviral pneumonia recovered from the C10 West Ward of Tongji Hospital. In the past 8 patients have been discharged from hospital. . . [H]igh-dose vitamin C achieved good results in clinical applications. We believe that for patients with severe neonatal pneumonia and critically ill patients, vitamin C treatment should be initiated as soon as possible after admission. . .[E]arly application of large doses of vitamin C can have a strong antioxidant effect, reduce inflammatory responses, and improve endothelial function. . . Numerous studies have shown that the dose of vitamin C has a lot to do with the effect of treatment. . . [H]gh-dose vitamin C can not only improve antiviral levels, but more importantly, can prevent and treat acute lung injury (ALI) and acute respiratory distress (ARDS)."

It's one university hospital.

The funny thing is that I talked with my mother today and she mentioned something I did not know about. When she gave birth it was common back then FOR MOST WOMEN TO RECEIVE VITAMIN C INFUSIONS. Most women were weak after giving birth and back then in that hospital they gave vitamin C infusions on the order of the head nurse! She did not even have to ask a doctor. Supposedly this treatment spread all throughout the 60s and 70s quickly, before it got stamped out by the establishment in the 80s and 90s. Only a few hospitals kept doing it and even less doctors and nurses remembered.

Unfortunately medicine is under full control of the for profit and for depopulation corporations. Even back in the 1970s leading MD scientists said that the science of medicine has to detach itself from the pharma and medical industry or no real progress will be achieved.

And Vit C is even what I would call a good low-tech method. It's essentially on the stage of the 1940s when humanity began to be able to create that vitamin and could have quickly found about certain applications. Never mind about possibly even better high-tech methods that cannot be patented either - healing via frequences, nuking of pathogens with specified frequences that impact only that pathogen etc. All of that won't be progressed because you cannot patent frequencies.

Ah well - at least we have the low tech vit c.

 

[fiasco360]

RE: Health remedies and prevention for Coronavirus / flu

I think i may have reached the diarrhea point of vitamin C. I’ve taken about 12-15g today.

 

[Tail Gunner]

RE: Health remedies and prevention for Coronavirus / flu

Unfortunately medicine is under full control of the for profit and for depopulation corporations. Even back in the 1970s leading MD scientists said that the science of medicine has to detach itself from the pharma and medical industry or no real progress will be achieved.

Back in the 1930's through the 1950's they also gave you an anti-fungal whenever you took antibiotics. It was simply common sense that if you killed all bacteria in the gut, both good and bad, then opportunistic fungi would take over. Now, so-called modern medicine never provides anti-fungals with antibiotics, which explains the explosion of candida overgrowth in the country. It is absolutely insane.

I will never again take an antibiotic, except under life-threatening conditions. I expressly tell doctors this fact before any invasive technique: "You need to be extra careful here, because I am not taking an antibiotic."
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A good article on studies regarding hand-washing, disinfectants, and masks:

https://lifespa.com/wash-hands-mask...469fb008a606acc0558ed5d4c28cbfab114022b1ec50d
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A new video, which I have not yet had the time to watch (but this guy knows his stuff), on the use of ozone against the coronavirus:



https://trulyheal.com/surviving-the-coronavirus-with-ozone/

 

[Dr. Howard]

RE: Health remedies and prevention for Coronavirus / flu

I think i may have reached the diarrhea point of vitamin C. I’ve taken about 12-15g today.

Thank you for sacrificing your lower intestines for the sake of the rest of us.

 

[Simeon_Strangelight]

RE: Health remedies and prevention for Coronavirus / flu

I think i may have reached the diarrhea point of vitamin C. I’ve taken about 12-15g today.

Thank you for sacrificing your lower intestines for the sake of the rest of us.

There is no damage to be feared. 12000mg while healthy is already a lot.

I took over 100.000mg while on a cold - felt good, had watery diarrhea - non-painful. It wasn't even dehydrating. It was more important to me that I didn't feel very sick.

Calibrating that while travelling once was more tricky. I got sick once and there was a scene in a restaurant bathroom - I am not proud of it, but it happens. Best is to stay at home while you take it, because the exact necessary dose is hard to put down to the exact gram.

 

[Tail Gunner]

RE: Health remedies and prevention for Coronavirus / flu

I got sick once and there was a scene in a restaurant bathroom - I am not proud of it, but it happens. Best is to stay at home while you take it, because the exact necessary dose is hard to put down to the exact gram.

If I were you, I would not be proud of it either. Simeon using a restaurant bathroom:

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