Heartiste deplatformed?

[bucky]

Yeah - he may open up shop somewhere else this time, but sooner or later they are going to shut all wrong-thinkers down.

They may not care that much about Heartiste and do an Andrew Anglin on him with global deplatforming, but one day it will come since they cannot let those "opinion-leaders" stand.

As Leonard said above: "You don't silence people you intend to live peacefully with. You do it to muffle their screams."

 

[081287]

Sucks that his content is gone. Roissy is the reason I know of Roosh, and recently I'd been re-reading his posts from a decade ago. Thankfully his site seems to have been well catalogued by the Internet Archive.

 

[Renzy]

On one of the other threads, a poster predicted that we will see some sort of civil unrest within the next 20 years. I personally don't think it's going to be that far away. I think the 2020s are going to be a pivotal decade in the West. I see 2021 and 2025 as being potential flash points in the US. If we make it to 2030 without some sort of major pushback from the right, and tech censorship has not been reigned in, then I think the potential for civil unrest will actually decrease after that, because conservatives will be too atomized by then. They will be self-censoring by that point. Come 2030, there will be conservative *individuals*, rather than conservative groups/movements.

Words and ideas are what help coalesce a movement around a common cause. It's why 200 years after it was written, kids learn about Thomas Paine's Common Sense in their history classes. It's going to be kind of hard to rally people to push back against the left, when the thought leaders of your movement have all been de-platformed and have no way to communicate their ideas anymore. You don't have to be a soothsayer to see that economic sanctions are the kill shot they are going to use against the right - remove your ability to accept payments, remove your ability to make money by tarnishing your reputation so that nobody will hire you ever again. In short, go after your livelihood.

 

[Days of Broken Arrows]

^^^^

I don't think the white majority is going to riot over being deplatformed, shut down, or thrown off things like PayPal. Whites generally don't engage in "unrest." In fact, this was the subject of The Clash's first-ever single, "White Riot," way back in 1977.

The power that the majority has is financial more than physical. And when people stop buying things, places go out of business. There is a reason "Get woke, go broke" became a saying. It works.

We need to stop using things like PayPal, WordPress, etc. Here is why that works. Most Americans don't know to save to money. They spend what they earn. This is reflected in their businesses. As such, even a relatively small drop in cash flow can totally f*ck up a company.

On another thread, I told the story of how I was buying some old records on Discogs.com and the seller "required" PayPay. I told him "no," but I was good for a check. He said "Fine, but to get your purchase, I have to wait for it to clear." That took two days.

In other words, he wanted the money more than he actually cared about his beloved PayPal. If more people did this, PayPay would feel the pinch. Then when layoffs start, the morale drops, and the company really hits the skids.

Most of this sh*t is unnecessary anyway. People did mail order sales long before PayPal, using checks or money orders and P.O. boxes. People exchanged info on the Web before WordPress (back when we had Usenet). People did not always have cable TV, smart phones, Alexa, or even Google/YouTube.

And if you do need something -- like you want to watch a video -- go to Vimeo or DailyMotion. Or find a torrent. For books, there are libraries. No one needs Amazon's moronic Kindle. For that matter, no one needs their deliveries. Stores still sell most things.

Before anyone says "But that's not a cure-all," I'm not saying it is. But I'm saying it can (and already has) harmed companies who engage in the sort of thing we're discussing here. People need to do more of this.

 

[Hypno]

Wasn't Trump supposed to fix this?

3D chess, bro. Honk Honk

 

[Hypno]

WalMart has free 2 day shipping or shipping to your local store. Advantage is that its not owned by the NSA.

 

[CynicalContrarian]

Should have thought of this earlier.

Wordpress are definitely some heartless sods...

 

[bucky]

Wasn't Trump supposed to fix this?

3D chess, bro. Honk Honk

Wasn't it supposed to be 4D...or something. I guess it doesn't matter.

 

[rpg]

Should have thought of this earlier.

Wordpress are definitely some heartless sods...

He knew it was coming a long time ago. It will be up again soon.

 

[Renzy]

^^^^

I don't think the white majority is going to riot over being deplatformed, shut down, or thrown off things like PayPal. Whites generally don't engage in "unrest." In fact, this was the subject of The Clash's first-ever single, "White Riot," way back in 1977.

My point isn't that whites are going to riot over PayPal. It's that the costs of being a conservative in this country are going to become steeper and steeper while the infrastructure necessary to sustain (or start) a movement becomes less accessible to anyone the Left disapproves of.

Also, what makes you think they are going to stop with PayPal? What's to stop them from shutting off your credit cards, your ATM Card, and contacting your bank to let them know you've been donating to "hate movements" like the NRA?

There was some poster on another thread whining about how some people on here were extreme. Well here's what the Left sounded like when I was in college:



That's a Democrat. Slick Willy kinda sounds *extreme*, like literally hitler with all that talk about deporting the illegals, putting more guards on the border and heartlessly denying them their welfare bennys.

If people on here think today's acceptable conservative views won't be tomorrow's "hate speech" I think ya'll are mistaken. I watch old videos like that sometimes because I really wonder, is it me who's changed or did everything just shift underneath me. You could be a regular guy in 1995 with regular guy views and 25 years later if you haven't completely flipped your views on marriage, immigration, gays, you're now a racist Nazi bigot who deserves to be hit with bike locks and now apparently, to have your finances targeted too.

 

[Corinth Arkadin]

Don't forget that his last post was in support of Roosh, telling Heartiste readers to attend Roosh's lecture if they got a chance.

Then he was gone.

Got a cached copy or something? Missed his last few days.

He was promoting a lot of Roosh as of late, but what with the above poaster above pointed out about the j00s it may have been the perfect storm.

 

[Richard Turpin]

I don't get why it took so long. They could have literally stuck a pin in any random post of his and found their excuse to ban it. Damn shame as it was funny and educational. Definitely escalating things politically just a tad though recently.

 

[debeguiled]

People see themselves living through F having previously been at E and think "those bastards are coming for G next".

What would we do if we all simply accepted that the ultimate goal of these people was Z?

I get so tired of repeating it but I'm never going to stop.

These are the same people that slaughtered a hundred million "class enemies" last century. Not just the men, but the women and children too. That might just seem like a big number but to lend it some perspective it's enough corpses that if you placed them head to foot they would make a line long enough to circle the earth and then some. The monsters responsible for this were operating in the East then. Now they're operating right here in the West telling you to your face that they intend to take everything from you and end you if you have the audacity to resist.

Again, not just the men but the women and children too.

Just like before.

You don't silence people you intend to live peacefully with. You do it to muffle their screams.

I am monitoring you.

 

[dfw1]

heartiste.wordpress.com/ is saved and available at: https://archive.org/index.php

 

[BBinger]

You set up a decent website? Better make sure its in a foreign land and one which isn't subject to US/EU powers. Better avoid using major payment processors because they will shut you down whilst you're at it.

WTF. I mentioned upthread I am doing hosting for this. Other people try this as well.

It isn't like the internet stops at the border "wall" or anything.

Bitcoin exists. What payment processor? Customers send me bitcoin, I convert it to the local payment tokens as needed, I rent a rack with an internet connection, and the magic of economy happens.

Yes, doing this takes money. It takes money when Silicon Valley cucks give it away for free. Doing things and building things takes more effort than signing up for a SV freebie, or you have to pay someone else to do the work.

It's like game. If you don't put in the work you get stuck with warpigs or the incel existence. If you don't put in the work on the internet, you get "surprised" when the faceless cuck platform kills your site and the address people used to get to your site.

Work with people. Build the future. Fight the fight.

I never said to not try but you're missing the point I made. They are the monopoly power, meaning they have the governments ear and unless that changes anytime soon your foreign hosting could be subject to all sorts of threats.

This next bit is based on possible future scenarios so take it with a bit of salt.

How would a small country or a country outside the juristiction of the major powers cope if in future they are forced to comply or face consequences?

Would that country really give a damn if bribed or threatened? What about ISPs? VPNs can be overcome so its not a completely flawless work around.

Remember the ISIS beheading video of that western journo? They scrubbed the internet of it and threatened every hosting site they could with closure and in several cases they got that wish. Others moved to other friendlier hosts.

The same happened to the NZ shooting.

Now these are one off events so what will they do to shut down a movement of people who are a threat to their status quo?

And Bitcoin can be shut down overnight if the banks willed it. You're at their mercy with this stuff regardless of how anonymous it is.

Bitcoin can be shut down, but can banks start putting stops on checks if they don't like who you're paying?

My guess is that they can't, but that the Feds could, in fact, seize your bank account if they count doing certain types of overseas business as "suspicious activity." It would probably be pretty easy for them to redefine hosting a blog overseas as engaging in some sort of "terror" -- just like they redefined prostitution as "trafficking."

But that said, the groups that I mentioned earlier in the thread -- whores and johns -- so far have not seen Fed harassment when it came to moving their online operations overseas. The USA Sex Guide now has an "nl" suffix and seems to be doing fine.

A while back I read a book called "The Renegade History Of The United States." One of the points it made was that a lot of the freedoms we take for granted were forged by outsiders like whores and gangsters fighting for justice.

If the manosphere wants to remain, we may have to follow the lead of those who were taken offline by FOSTA/SESTA. Or...someone might have to buy a ship, park it in international waters, and host blogs illicitly, like the old Pirate Radio stations did in 1960s England.

It is too late for anyone to be shutting down Bitcoin. Yes, the price can be messed with to an extent. No, it can't be completely shut down. The genie is out of the bottle. As far as private communications and strong assertions of identity go, GPG/PGP are still the best tools available and they work.

Anyways, a ship in international waters is an awful place to make a datacenter. The latency on satellite connections to the internet is awful.

US law is not world law (Getting out of the US/EU "common law" insanity and in to a civil law jurisdiction is quite a relief). Not all banks are US/EU banks. The world outside the Anglophone insanity zone offers more than just more feminine women, it offers sanity in many other ways as well.

Social media also is not the only way to talk to people online. IRC still works. I do customer service out of the channel #pizarro on the Freenode IRC network.

The tools for a free as in liberty Internet exist, for people willing to learn and use them. The problem is the amount of noise pushing free as in dumpster diving for trash "platforms" and traps like Facebook, Wordpress.com, livejournal, Twitter, Tumblr, Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Tor (US DoD operation, stop selling it as salvation and making drug markets there people), Gab, email, etc.

Irc still exists. Sure there's a but of a learning curve, but it is more cultural than technical. GPG exists. Bitcoin exists. The tools to be a man on the internet exist, and a working knowledge of these tools is the minimum bar to meet to be a man who works, independently, on the internet.

Less dependence on freebies and more standing up to do.

 

[UnW]

This was apparantley the meat of his last post before getting banned

 

[Goldin Boy]

With the increase of political posts, I don't think anyone should be surprised by this.

While I don't agree with his political and racial views, I still read them without getting triggered or upset. Bar none his site was best game resource I've ever read...anytime I had a sticking point I could type it in the search box and find 10 posts about it. Never had an instance in the 6 years I've been reading the blog in which I applied his advice and it didn't work.

Hope he had the prescience to back-up his entire site.

 

[Corinth Arkadin]

We should be all grabbing the pitchforks and torches (yes I know, me first).

This illegal shit will get out of hand. First Daily Stormer then RoK getting shut down, (for "hate speech". Hate speech is FREE SPEECH), now CH. Soon they will zero in on this forum and more.

An attack on one of us is an attack on ALL of us. WE are being silenced, not just the creators of the sites. We, as posters, are likewise being shut up. And that should piss us all off.

 

[Slam]

Things have escalated.

We all know this. We all saw what happened. We all know what Heartiste wrote about.

At the risk of LARPing, I post this here because everyone including CH knows the stakes.

 

[puckerman]

Does Heartiste post here? Does anyone know him?

I notice that Wordpress has several different pricing brackets. You can use it for free and pay for other versions of it. Was Heartiste using the free part? Or was he paying for it?

This has been the problem with "free Internet" since the days of NetZero. If the service is free, you are NOT a customer. You are a simply a user, and it's probable that you are being used just as much as you are using the service. A business is much more likely to treat people like customers if they are paying for the service.

If you have a blog or something else, get on a site that you have to pay for. They are less likely to get rid of you if you are a paying customer.