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<blockquote data-quote="Fortis" data-source="post: 693480" data-attributes="member: 7235">I'm not against it. I'm not paying these guys to be nice. I'm paying them money to be awesome musicians. If a guy is feeling himself because he's good I'm all for it. Humility is a good value, but I do think a lot of guys just use it as an excuse to underachieve and be pussies. All that said, I have yet to meet Wooten or Abasi, so I can't actually say any of that is true. If a metal guitarist is able to draw in crowds on his name alone, that is a really wonderful thing.Making it in metal takes pro-management skills, raw talent and a pair of brassy balls. These labels don't play around and have taken bands down with debt. What makes it even worse is that the genre is glutted with a lot of talentless hacks, so it's so hard to be heard. I knew this one band that stole another bands entire album and put it on their Soundcloud as though it were their own. It's a grimy genre if you're not really about it.One of my favorite bands from about 10 years ago !T.O.O.H.! Originally broke up because Eachache (I think) records debt raped them when they were young and inexperienced in the music industry. I'm sure a ton of other bands I liked went that route as well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fortis, post: 693480, member: 7235"] I'm not against it. I'm not paying these guys to be nice. I'm paying them money to be awesome musicians. If a guy is feeling himself because he's good I'm all for it. Humility is a good value, but I do think a lot of guys just use it as an excuse to underachieve and be pussies. All that said, I have yet to meet Wooten or Abasi, so I can't actually say any of that is true. If a metal guitarist is able to draw in crowds on his name alone, that is a really wonderful thing.Making it in metal takes pro-management skills, raw talent and a pair of brassy balls. These labels don't play around and have taken bands down with debt. What makes it even worse is that the genre is glutted with a lot of talentless hacks, so it's so hard to be heard. I knew this one band that stole another bands entire album and put it on their Soundcloud as though it were their own. It's a grimy genre if you're not really about it. One of my favorite bands from about 10 years ago !T.O.O.H.! Originally broke up because Eachache (I think) records debt raped them when they were young and inexperienced in the music industry. I'm sure a ton of other bands I liked went that route as well. [/QUOTE]

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