Help! Best friend's younger brother about to marry a Lindy West-sized fattie.

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Christian McQueen

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"it's for purely psychological reasons, as in he and his wife "are not really talking to each other"

^True. Hence the Girlfriend Experiment Escorts.

"sweetie you're a knockout 10, but let's talk about my week"

To each their own.

It's actually great there's schlubs like that because it's less players in the field competing.
 

Tuthmosis

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The only way to get in his head is to get him alone, put him around hotter girls, and get him talking about his thirst. Then segue into the don't-you-think-you-can-do-better topic when he's exposed his deep secret desires. I'm sure I could pull this off, especially with someone else's relative where I got nothing to lose.

But my money's in this case is on this:

 

Vacancier Permanent

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Sorry to hear about your buddy OP. IMO, what I would do is this:
If I really cared about him and he was a real friend, then I would gather 1-2 other equally good friends and bring the guy (I would pay for all his expenses while there) with us to a vacation for 2-3 weeks to either the DR or Asia. Alone. Just to spend some time as bros one last time before he gets hitched. Prior to the trip, no mention whatsoever of him making a mistake by marrying this hog, just be cool and chill. However, once in the DR/Asia, getting him bombarded by sweet, sexy, THIN, FEMININE women that would make his head explode. The kind that he could only dream about. Which isn't too hard in these places as they are crawling with them.

If you go to the DR, ask El Mech to hop there and join you guys. If the guy doesn't want to do anything with the girls there, have El Mech pimp slap him the good old fashioned way and talk some sense to him.

Seriously, get your friend to a pussy paradise for a vacation, show him what's available out there and what he can do if he simply pulled his head out of his ass. If the guy is normal and not screwed up there, he will dump her ass faster than you can imagine.

Good luck and report how this pans out.
 

DetlefMourning

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Where are his other friends and family members? Do they think it is normal to marry a fattie?

His parents are divorced. He still lives with his dad. His dad wants him out of the house, and marrying him off accomplishes this task just fine. Also, while he himself is super skinny, his dad is morbidly obese and is a former gastric bypass recipient. He probably looks at his future daughter in law and sees a super skinny woman.
 

Beyond Borders

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I honestly can't believe people are recommending bringing this up to the kid. I wonder how many guys who say that have managed to make sure all their buddies, brothers and other male associates marry dimepieces? :dodgy:

Leave him alone and let him marry his fatty. People have been fucking, marrying, and impregnating fatties for as long as they've existed - there just tend to be a lot more of them these days in the American population.

Not everyone wants to or has what it takes to be a player. If this kid is thinking marriage already, you missed your opportunity to help him evolve (well, until he gets divorced). Let it go and chalk it up as more for you.

I know a lot of men who have fat wives or girlfriends, and most of them would sock me in my fucking mouth if I told them their girl was fat and so they shouldn't be with her.

Most men don't have game. That's just life. You really get nowhere pushing your lifestyle on everybody else. The kid doesn't look like a scrapper, so you probably don't have to worry about getting your teeth knocked out, but it could cost a friendship. Even his brother - don't think a man won't choose his woman over a brother in a situation like this.

And for what? Because you don't want him fucking or marrying a hog? Who gives a shit...

As for coming at it sideways and being the random guy talking him out of it at a party, I'll tell you what'll happen - should you even get that far. You'll sit there bullshitting with him over beers all night, him agreeing with everything you've said about the possibiities for a man in today's world and maybe even getting charged up and excited about breaking it off with her, backing out of the marriage, and getting his life back.

Then in the morning...guess what?

He'll pretend the conversation never even happened.

And will run right back to his boring, underachieving excuse for a life.

The only difference is he'll never be able to look you in the eye quite the same again because he'll know that you know he settled for his heffer of a wife simply because he didn't have the balls to ever move past that boozed up confidence.

Why embarrass the dude like that? Honestly, man, it's just not worth it. His brother is pipe-dreaming.

Live and let live.
 

Tuthmosis

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Beyond Borders said:
He'll pretend the conversation never even happened.

And will run right back to his boring, underachieving excuse for a life.

Case closed.

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Timoteo

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The only advice I can see being helpful to him is to discourage him from getting her pregnant quickly. Since he isn't making much money, you can use that as the reason for waiting on starting a family. Tell him to work on his career, and to try to establish some financial security. Hopefully during that period, he'll have met and interacted with more women, and temptation will cause him to cheat on the fat wife and make it more and more difficult for him to go home to her. That way he can divorce her without it costing him too much (I'm assuming she works too, so they can part ways with pretty much what they came in with).
 

cardguy

 
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The problem isn't Fat Acceptance.

Or being thirsty.

Or being a chubby chaser.

The problem is "love".

The biggest trap that beta males fall into is the 'love trap'.

All pop culture is geared towards trying to convince men to find the one unique quality in a chick which makes her different, special and irreplaceable. In the same way chicks can convince themselves their horoscope is true - guys can convince themeselves they have found something unique in the girl they are seeing.

Some guys don't fall for this bullshit. But many do. Particularly the more intelligent guys.

Some things are so stupid than only intelligent people can find a way of convincing themselves it is true.

And the "love" bullshit is one of them.

This guy knows his chick is not a looker. But - in his mind - he is bonding with his chick on a higher plane which more stupid guys can not understand. And everytime he listens to music or watches TV or a film - he gets positive feedback that he is making the right decision and that he is experiencing life on a higher level than the rest of us.

But it is a delusion.

The joke is on him. But he doesn't realise it yet.

One day he will. And it will be the most expensive lesson of his life.
 

Parlay44

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I don't know ...I like the feeling of being in love. It's partly psychological and it's partly chemical, pheromones or whatnot. But it's a good feeling. Love combined with blowing a fat load inside a girl is the ultimate high. And people chase that high just like any other drug addiction. And just like drugs it's never as good as the first time you experience it. The only bad part is losing yourself into the other person. You have to kind of lose yourself and not lose yourself at the same time. It's hard to understand unless you've been there. I've had my :heart: broken many times.

Was that beta?
 

cardguy

 
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Is being in love beta? I was going to start a thread with that exact title.

It is a serious question. But I felt the title of the thread would be too provocative. And it would sound like a parody/trolling thread.

So - it may be better to just touch on the subject here instead.

Personally - I think being in love is beta. Sorry - I know that comment will get me alot of hate. But seriously. You are a guy. You are not 'in love'. You just think you are.

The system is playing you. Love didn't even exist as a concept 500 years ago.

And just because you think you feel it doesn't make it true. You are being hypnotised by society into thinking that way.

There are guys who think they were abducted by aliens or saw a ghost. Does it make it real just because they say so?

The easiest person to fool is yourself. I'm a trained magician and see this every time I perform.

Love is not real. And I think accepting that is the only way to be truly alpha.

You think you love a chick. Well what about the 20 other guys she banged before you? Why didn't they fall in love with her? It is because they saw her for what she is.

Nothing unique. Nothing special. And the same as the other 4 billion chicks walking the earth.

 

The Lizard of Oz

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cardguy said:
The system is playing you. Love didn't even exist as a concept 500 years ago.

Song of Solomon Chapter 2:

1 I am the rose of Sharon, and the lily of the valleys.

2 As the lily among thorns, so is my love among the daughters.

3 As the apple tree among the trees of the wood, so is my beloved among the sons. I sat down under his shadow with great delight, and his fruit was sweet to my taste.

4 He brought me to the banqueting house, and his banner over me was love.

5 Stay me with flagons, comfort me with apples: for I am sick of love.

6 His left hand is under my head, and his right hand doth embrace me.

7 I charge you, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, by the roes, and by the hinds of the field, that ye stir not up, nor awake my love, till he please.

8 The voice of my beloved! behold, he cometh leaping upon the mountains, skipping upon the hills.

9 My beloved is like a roe or a young hart: behold, he standeth behind our wall, he looketh forth at the windows, shewing himself through the lattice.

10 My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away.

11 For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone;

12 The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land;

13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away.

14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely.

15 Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes.

16 My beloved is mine, and I am his: he feedeth among the lilies.

17 Until the day break, and the shadows flee away, turn, my beloved, and be thou like a roe or a young hart upon the mountains of Bether.
 

cardguy

 
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Love did exist as a concept 500 years ago.

Marrying for love didn't.

I withdraw my remark. I confused marriage with love.

I stand by everything else I wrote.
 

Parlay44

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cardguy said:
Love did exist as a concept 500 years ago.

Marrying for love didn't.

I withdraw my remark. I confused marriage with love.

I stand by everything else I wrote.

I can't imagine marrying for any other reason but love.
Call me a romantic.
 

cardguy

 
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Romantic love is the new religion of our age.

People don't give a fuck if you don't believe in God. But they tend to freak out if you say you don't believe in love.

I think fewer and fewer people will start to believe in love. Thanks to internet dating. It is much harder to think somebody is unique when you have a thousand better options the click of a button away.

In the future - I can see religion returning to prominence in the UK. Since people need meaning in their lives. And when the 'love bubble' pops - they will return to God.
 

The Lizard of Oz

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cardguy,

I think your remark is about more than just marriage. It is about erotic love in the sense of "being in love". I take your remark seriously.

I agree with you that erotic love is greatly overvalued as an ideal and has been for a long time.

I also agree that this ideal has been invoked too often to blind men to the nature of women, and to make fools and white-knights of them.

Nevertheless, erotic love is real. It exists and it can have great and even terrible power. It may be unwise to wish for it and more unwise to follow it, but its hold on men and women cannot be denied. It is not something that was invented 500 years ago or 1000 years ago, and it is not merely the figment of an ideology.

There is no need to overvalue passionate love, and it is in any case something that does not happen very often -- which is fine. But neither is it something to be denied. It is just one of the facts of life.
 

Bushido

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cardguy said:
In the future - I can see religion returning to prominence in the UK. Since people need meaning in their lives. Ane when the 'love bubble' pops - they will return to God.

You mean Allah? :laugh:
 

cardguy

 
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Well - I think you can make yourself immune to love.

If you don't believe in it - then you will never experience it. I will bet a million pounds that I will never fall in love. I can see through it.

It isn't just something that happens. And that is out of your control. It is something that you consciously and subconsciously open yourself up to.

So there is always an element of delusion involved.
 

Timoteo

Crow
It's been said that the first marriage is for love, but any subsequent marriages are for other reasons. Now, there's no telling what people marry that first time for - sometimes it's love, sometimes it's for more practical reasons. Now, many go for the "starter" marriage - one they'll stay in for a couple of years or so, then divorce. They're usually childless marriages which one or both go into but aren't fully committed, and bail out early. Now, a woman might pick a good candidate, get him to commit because she wants a couple of kids and a nice place to live, then file for divorce 10 years in once she's sure she's secured a great settlement.

Arranged marriages have always been about certain qualities OTHER than love, with the hope that love would come later.
 
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