Heph's daily journey away from 30-something NEETdom

NEETbux should be turned into Entrepreneurbux.

Think of your neetbux as your way to get whats yours out of a system which mainly exist to exploit men like you and give to feminists and soyboys who despise you.

Neetbuxxing is your little rebellion against soycialist society.

Why feel bad about it?

Fill your day with a full range of the leisurely idle man's endevours:

Casually stroll and take in nature or architecture
Feel soul growing as result
Have a chat with fellow human beans
Become familiar with your own ego and being
Read a classic book, study the philosophy of your ancestors
Listen to music or practice an instrument
Exercise your body 1-1.5 hours a day
Get a nice haircut from a fellow tax evading barber (Indian/Pakistanis are decent)
Grow your beard cause no need to signal being a little boy to placate corporate society
Learn to dress because you have so much time and no longer have to wear the emasculating office uniform

In between make sure to drop at least 3-5 hours a day working on your startup business. Make the bugpeople pay for your seed capital. Oh yeah, make sure to earn some shekels on the side, doing odd jobs, outside the tax man.

Last, but no least, go out with friends or alone and bang wagecucks girlfriend with your new found easy confidence. Nothing says important man, like being completely idle, while still cultured and physically fit. Embrace your Neet born poverty and understand what you have to offer women outside superficial bugman status. I was never as successful with women as one summer spent as a couch crashing confident NEET.

And to all the wagies reading along.

Tick Tock Tick Tock wagie

Another day another dollar
 

Hephaestus

Sparrow
flanders said:
In that case, posting here is all fine and dandy for accountability, but making a website and blogging on the side (daily if possible) about your python journey and linking everything with github would be something you want to look into. It does not have to be much.

That's an excellent idea, and something I am planning to do once I've got beyond the 'hello world' stage.

I've run/marketed websites in the past, so I think I'll be able to get something like this up and running, especially if I find an angle to draw people to it. Anyway, I'll hit that problem when I reach it.

nomadbrah said:
Good post. I am more than grateful that 21st century Australia has a lot to offer even its poorest citizens.

The last week was terrible, but I still managed to
Casually stroll and take in nature or architecture. Done! Felt better
Feel soul growing as result
Have a chat with fellow human beans Done! I'm making an effort to connect with others
Become familiar with your own ego and being I've been doing a lot of reflecting
Read a classic book, study the philosophy of your ancestors Does /his/ count?
Listen to music or practice an instrument Listen yes, play no.
Exercise your body 1-1.5 hours a day I went to the gym with a mate 6 times this week.
Get a nice haircut from a fellow tax evading barber. Done, I was feeling down over a girl, so I had a haircut for "change"
Grow your beard cause no need to signal being a little boy to placate corporate society. Stubble suits my face better, but I get your point.
Learn to dress because you have so much time and no longer have to wear the emasculating office uniform I'm very well dressed for my budget, yay charity shops

It's getting late, and I'll go into everything else tomorrow, but thank you all for your posts.
 

Hephaestus

Sparrow
Log #22

Wasn't 100% energy wise, so I spent today preparing for tomorrow.
I tidied up my space digital and physical.

I've deleted all my games and browsers, and many files from the past.

I reread a self-improvement book called "How to Fail at Almost Everything and Still Win Big". I've read it twice before, but it's good for an extra push out of a slump.

Besides the mandatory stuff about visualisations, it makes some very good points about how different skills synergise, the right surroundings, communication and how to sustain a good mood. It's well worth reading, even if you aren't a fan of Scott Adam's other work.

I was super depressed yesterday. Basically I have a very strong prolactin response to any kind of orgasm. This has added complications to relationships, though certain legal Indian herbs help mitigate this. When I'm single, I usually abstain completely as one time gets me lethagic and 'away', three times and I'm instantly back to the worst of my depression.
To clarify, when I say internet addiction, the vast majority of it isn't porn, though I am keeping my windows and doors open to pre-empt any bad habits forming.
 

Hephaestus

Sparrow
I managed to break my motherboard last month.

Broken PCI slots apparently. I returned it under warranty, but the replacement still has issues.

It worked for a short while, but now it no longer works, all because I got greedy and reinserted my graphics card. Without a PC, I had no means of physically removing the wifi, so I found it hard to keep focused.
 

flanders

Robin
Most laptops have discrete wireless cards built into them that can be physically removed with a screwdriver. I only know this because I've replaced more than a handful of broken wifi cards. You can (1) permanently pull the wifi card from the motherboard and (2) use a removable USB wireless dongle (they cost about 5-10 dollars) for any necessary downloads or updates if you must have productivity.

Wifi cards in laptops that cannot be removed can always be disabled through the windows control panel. Linux probably can do it without a problem as well.

If your only goal is to learn python you can just buy a thinkpad t400 (or 410, 420) used for extremely cheap (like $50 USD), a charger (90W is preferable to 60W), then install any linux, no serious ram upgrade or hard drive upgrade required. I keep a stack of these for no reason in particular.

Any cheap or free book on learning python will work. Or the 'learn python' thread, since learning django is useful as well.

I don't know if you lift weights but regular squatting and deadlifting keep me in a pretty fucking great mood.
 

Hephaestus

Sparrow
Update:

I got caught up in self-loathing and computer games, but I'm ready to give a productive life another shot. I managed to get my PC working again, and removed the wireless card from my laptop.
I've got a lot of good books for learning python, all ready. I've bought a nice supportive chair, I've uninstalled all games. I've installed a word processor (WPS Writer/LibreWriter since my uni substription to MS Word has exprired).

Flanders advice about the dongle is good, I can safely lock it away when I am studying. The issue I hit today was I was terribly temped to cycle to the computer place and buy yet another wifi dongle.

I now have no excuses not to be productive. I'm gonna try two days without internet, I promise to upload at least 5 recorded days this week.

Sorry if my thoughts are a bit disjointed today, I'm half asleep. I should be a lot more clear on Monday.
 

Hephaestus

Sparrow
Had a good few hours of productive work today(Monday). Nothing to sing about, but it is better than wasting another day online. I wasted many hours on Sunday staring at a 6" screen unfortunately.

I locked up both my phone and modem, my media drives and all food until 5pm, so I didn't need to waste energy actively resisting distractions.

 

Hephaestus

Sparrow
This week I tried things differently.

Lightbox in the Morning (I listen to language tapes and motivational hypnosis)
Internet an evening every two days, (Half the distruption, but still connects me with the world)
Stimulants (Energy and mod to build momentum, I've stopped now so I won't get tolerence)

As I promised to myself, five videos, I don't expect anyone will watch them, but the possibility of being observed makes me less likely to waste time.


Goodnight
 

BURNΞR

Pelican
I've been on both sides (NEET and 6 figure earner) and I have to say lately I'm questioning whether NEET-dom is a bad thing. Unless you have a kid I don't see why you need to be a perpetual wagecuck servicing debt your entire life to make bankers and government rich. Ultimately I see wagers as cuckolds paying for other people's welfare, health care and kids. It would be understandable if you were taxed with some representation but the fact is most tax is there to benefit women and other people's kids. Also the percentage of tax is ridiculous. 30-45% income tax, 10%+ sales tax, basically half of your income is taken away from you for the Greater Good. At some point the wage earner scratches his head and wonders if it is worth it working 11/12 months, never getting rich.
 
I've been on both sides (NEET and 6 figure earner) and I have to say lately I'm questioning whether NEET-dom is a bad thing. Unless you have a kid I don't see why you need to be a perpetual wagecuck servicing debt your entire life to make bankers and government rich. Ultimately I see wagers as cuckolds paying for other people's welfare, health care and kids. It would be understandable if you were taxed with some representation but the fact is most tax is there to benefit women and other people's kids. Also the percentage of tax is ridiculous. 30-45% income tax, 10%+ sales tax, basically half of your income is taken away from you for the Greater Good. At some point the wage earner scratches his head and wonders if it is worth it working 11/12 months, never getting rich.

As I see it, NEETdom has these big disadvantages against a 6 figure income:
1.) Lack of social contact. This kills.
2.) Lack of sex/female attention. Also not great for a man.
3.) Lack of self-respect. This makes you miserable.

If you could wing your way into being a NEET while still getting laid and hanging out with friends, you could probably have a pretty sweet life. Wouldn't be easy though.
 

bortimer

Pigeon
Your thread is titled "journey away from 30-something NEETdom," yet it's been nearly 6 months and you are still a NEET? Your self-improvement efforts are just masturbation. Get a job and build some inertia towards actually accomplishing something.
 

Hephaestus

Sparrow
I'll have another 5 videos this time next week.

I've been on both sides (NEET and 6 figure earner) and I have to say lately I'm questioning whether NEET-dom is a bad thing.
There are a few things I really want to change in the world, and I see what I am learning now as a step towards that. That's my main impertus for change.

Financially, it'd take a big change in income to significantly affect my life. I've got low-interest student loan debt from two degrees from two different countries and dual repayments will kick in once I exceed a certain income. That and taxes, HI and the like. In the short term being poor is 'cheaper'.

During the crypto boom, the theoretical value of my assets was pretty high, but I didn't sell due to Australian law penalising selling before a year and now it's a fraction of what it was. :s

That, and I'm generally happy with what I have, so money wouldn't help me much short term.

SamuelBRoberts said:
As I see it, NEETdom has these big disadvantages against a 6 figure income:
1.) Lack of social contact. This kills.
2.) Lack of sex/female attention. Also not great for a man.
3.) Lack of self-respect. This makes you miserable.
I'm decent at hiding my poverty and I'm tall and not-ugly, I've have/had girlfriends(not sure, made out today, but didn't go further), but I want someone I can be fully honest with, and I want to be someone who is proud of who he is.

I'm making an effort to stay socially connected, as I believe I make peoples day better and I've learnt from personal experience that isolation is killer. I tell acquaintances I'm coder.

P.S. Love your crypto contributions, I would of saved hundreds of thousands if I listened to your pessimism from 12.5 months ago. I've also started to listen to Japanese audio tapes to make the most of the half an hour each morning I stare at a light box (My current plan is Minimal pairs -> Pimsleur -> Glossika -> Long-haired dictionary :angel: )

bortimer said:
Your thread is titled "journey away from 30-something NEETdom," yet it's been nearly 6 months and you are still a NEET? Your self-improvement efforts are just masturbation. Get a job and build some inertia towards actually accomplishing something.
I fell into a bit of a depression for a few months, now I'm back on track. I've tried years to find any kind of work, but thank you for posting.
 

BBinger

Kingfisher
Hephaestus said:
I'll have another 5 videos this time next week.

I've been on both sides (NEET and 6 figure earner) and I have to say lately I'm questioning whether NEET-dom is a bad thing.
There are a few things I really want to change in the world, and I see what I am learning now as a step towards that. That's my main impertus for change.

Financially, it'd take a big change in income to significantly affect my life. I've got low-interest student loan debt from two degrees from two different countries and dual repayments will kick in once I exceed a certain income. That and taxes, HI and the like. In the short term being poor is 'cheaper'.

During the crypto boom, the theoretical value of my assets was pretty high, but I didn't sell due to Australian law penalising selling before a year and now it's a fraction of what it was. :s

That, and I'm generally happy with what I have, so money wouldn't help me much short term.

SamuelBRoberts said:
As I see it, NEETdom has these big disadvantages against a 6 figure income:
1.) Lack of social contact. This kills.
2.) Lack of sex/female attention. Also not great for a man.
3.) Lack of self-respect. This makes you miserable.
I'm decent at hiding my poverty and I'm tall and not-ugly, I've have/had girlfriends(not sure, made out today, but didn't go further), but I want someone I can be fully honest with, and I want to be someone who is proud of who he is.

I'm making an effort to stay socially connected, as I believe I make peoples day better and I've learnt from personal experience that isolation is killer. I tell acquaintances I'm coder.

P.S. Love your crypto contributions, I would of saved hundreds of thousands if I listened to your pessimism from 12.5 months ago. I've also started to listen to Japanese audio tapes to make the most of the half an hour each morning I stare at a light box (My current plan is Minimal pairs -> Pimsleur -> Glossika -> Long-haired dictionary :angel: )

bortimer said:
Your thread is titled "journey away from 30-something NEETdom," yet it's been nearly 6 months and you are still a NEET? Your self-improvement efforts are just masturbation. Get a job and build some inertia towards actually accomplishing something.
I fell into a bit of a depression for a few months, now I'm back on track. I've tried years to find any kind of work, but thank you for posting.

On the plus side it looks like if you can hold the crypto through the end of this year, you might be able to unload some of it for quite a bit more than if you liquidate now.
 

456

Kingfisher
Sometimes it helps to just Get Away From The Computer.

Even if you block All Distractions, get some ANALOGUE HOBBIES.

Fast-forward a year:
- you're making 6-figures and setting your own schedule as a Python coder
- you're progressing towards becoming a trustworthy, charismatic Tech Solutioneer who can easily gain and liaison with clients
- your coding knowledge helps you manage a fleet of less-social but more-experienced coders while avoiding typical manager pitfalls

If you're really successful, you might have even more "free time", and your money and business owner self-regard still won't help when all the normal people are in an office and on a strict weekender entertainment itinerary.

It's important to maintain some kind of "live" connection to the community, as others have posted, and as you've acknowledged too. I think it's a bigger part than simply skill-building.

There's an irony that the lucrative skill-building takes place on the same computer that will suck the life out of you and pull you away from real life just as much in SUCCESS as it will in NEETdom.

Computers and phones have only taken over because of how easily they can "simulate" Real Life; they'd have nothing to simulate once people stop doing Things in Real Life.

Just a general message to prioritize fresh air and human connection as much as everything else.

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That's why the other advice on this thread about JUST EARNING SOMETHING is wise.

If you had to spend some hours loading and unloading trucks by the dock some days per week, You Would Not Need To Hack Your Computer For Distraction-Blockers.

You'd be waiting ALL DAY to sit down with some code, terminal windows, etc.

You'd pass out from exhaustion before you got a chance to read RVF, thus turning it into a real treat when you finally have some time.

That's worth the gap between 'Labor Money' and 'Coding / Owning Money', at least for some time!
 

Ouroboros

Woodpecker
Hephaestus said:
I've tried for years to find work. No one wants someone who's been in the wilderness for so long. I've even been rejected from the kind of jobs I was doing as a teen. I have no references, no family connections(my parents are both significantly disabled and overseas) and I'm "privileged" (This is as political as I'm going to get here)

My efforts are better suited creating a job for myself then taking one. I have made decent progress in the last 10 days and based on my lifestyle and family history, I've got at least 23,000 days left to leave a positive mark on the world if I keep the momentum up. The deadline I've set for myself is to pay at least $1 of tax within 150 days.

I can relate to this to an extent. I did two degrees which don't easily lend themselves to employment by themselves, and made the additional mistake of focusing on grades rather than things that could have actually helped me get a job: extracurriculars (for networking) and side jobs (for experience and references).

I'm still not in a great position but things are improving. One thing that helped was to do volunteer work. There is generally a low barrier to entry (you should be able to find something that doesn't require any kind of prior experience) and it can provide the following benefits:

- meeting new people, which itself can have the benefits of improving mental health (=> improved productivity => greater chance of succeeding with your online ventures), reducing feelings of isolation, networking, getting prospects to game, getting new friends, and getting references that you can later use when applying for jobs
- possibly gain skills that can be used in basic admin/customer service roles, which despite being kinda shitty jobs will also allow you to meet new people, can be pathways to better positions within a company, will provide you with more money than welfare (=> more capital to invest in side business), will improve your self esteem (=> increased productivity)

I hesitate to advise someone to uproot their life to go live in a foreign country, but teaching English abroad may also be an option. Some places you can apparently get a job just being a native speaker of English (I don't know if you're a native speaker or not - but even if you're not I've seen foreigners do it). You can (and should) still pursue your internet business ambitions while working as an English teacher, and the change of scenery may help to motivate you and otherwise improve your life (getting laid overseas will almost certainly be easier than in Australia/weather may be better/some foreign cultures may suit you better etc.).
 

Hephaestus

Sparrow
Good news, I have finalllllly managed to get a part-time job teaching English online yesterday. It's barely above minimum wage, but it is in the late afternoon/evening when I'm usually too tired to do anything productive.

As for my studying, I was knocked back with glandular fever for a while, so I'm currently reviewing and refreshing. I haven't given up.

I'm staying socially active so I don't turn into a incoherent caveman. I used to be extremely isolated in the past and it was a disaster for my mental health. 456 is right, doing fun stuff AWAY from the computer matters, vidya may be fun, but it traps me in my room, I try to go on group hikes at least every few weeks.

I'm not interested in moving overseas at the movement, it would add additional complications. When I get a business established, moving to Malaysia or Taiwan with their effectively zero tax on foreign-derived income would be very tempting.

Volunteering would make sense, but in Australia, you get your neetbux taken away if you aren't looking for full time paid work. It's crazy, I know.
 

Ouroboros

Woodpecker
Hephaestus said:
Good news, I have finalllllly managed to get a part-time job teaching English online yesterday. It's barely above minimum wage, but it is in the late afternoon/evening when I'm usually too tired to do anything productive.

Nice! A step in the right direction.

Hephaestus said:
Volunteering would make sense, but in Australia, you get your neetbux taken away if you aren't looking for full time paid work.

Yes I know, but I don't see how this would prevent you from volunteering. You can do volunteering while also applying for jobs. As far as I am aware Centrelink would not cite the fact that you are volunteering as evidence that you are not trying to find work (and you don't need to tell them about it anyway).
 

Hephaestus

Sparrow
Back to the forum with an update.

I've just earnt my full real estate license today, and friends have already recommended me to their bosses. This hopefully will mark the start of a happier stage in my life.

The online English teaching company stiffed me unfortunately, and the accounting Job my Disability Service agency convinced me to drop out of my programming course never materialised. But what I have now is real, and I'm in real position to get back on track with life.

December isn't the busiest of months, so I'm doing to spend every day trying to push my Chinese language skills to the next level. Overseas buyers are a huge driving force in the Sydney market, especially at Chinese New Year.
 
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