Herbal Testosterone Boosting Thread

Sword

Sparrow
Catholic
Could it be low T if I have a hard time getting turned on? Me and my wife are under a lot of stress, our sex life sucks right now, and I got a bunch of stuff I am dealing with myself. What I am asking, is I will see a hot girl and think she is hot, but there is NOT any sort of turning on that happens. Is that typical, or a sign of low t? Even in my life with wife its hard to get turned out, but maybe low level depression?

What about ashwaganda or ginger, both of those are supposed to boost T
 

inthefade

Kingfisher
Orthodox Inquirer
Could it be low T if I have a hard time getting turned on? Me and my wife are under a lot of stress, our sex life sucks right now, and I got a bunch of stuff I am dealing with myself. What I am asking, is I will see a hot girl and think she is hot, but there is NOT any sort of turning on that happens. Is that typical, or a sign of low t? Even in my life with wife its hard to get turned out, but maybe low level depression?

What about ashwaganda or ginger, both of those are supposed to boost T
Before supplementing, have you stopped masturbating and watching porn?
 

get2choppaaa

Hummingbird
Orthodox
Could it be low T if I have a hard time getting turned on? Me and my wife are under a lot of stress, our sex life sucks right now, and I got a bunch of stuff I am dealing with myself. What I am asking, is I will see a hot girl and think she is hot, but there is NOT any sort of turning on that happens. Is that typical, or a sign of low t? Even in my life with wife its hard to get turned out, but maybe low level depression?

What about ashwaganda or ginger, both of those are supposed to boost T
Yes, this is likely a testosterone related issue... But there could be a host of things going on here.

What is your sleep like? Nutrition on point? Regular exercise? Extreme life stess?

The general depression and weight gain coupled with low libido are usually signs of lower Testosterone.

DIM ans Ashwaganada are helpful... But supplements only facilitate if you're doing the other things well also.

You could have Test in the high 900s or eve 1000 but if you're not mentally right you will have issues.

Not advising anything, but I would examine those other factors first and get them on point before getting blood work, remember bloodwork is only a snapshot in time. So if you're living hard for a couple months then get bloodwork vs fix the other things you'll have significantly different results via labs.

What brand of Maca are you guys using? I bought this and tried mixing it into protein shakes, it smells and tastes absolutely terrible.

Maca
Stuff from True nutrition (truenutrition.com) is good to go and mixes well. I'd mix with a scoop of protein (whey isolate or casein depending on when you are using it) the company is very good and a serious, no bs company that saves you some food money.

I like their ZMA and sleep aid for occasional use when ive been stressed and not sleeping really well.
 

OhHeyCindy

Sparrow
Catholic
Could it be low T if I have a hard time getting turned on? Me and my wife are under a lot of stress, our sex life sucks right now, and I got a bunch of stuff I am dealing with myself. What I am asking, is I will see a hot girl and think she is hot, but there is NOT any sort of turning on that happens. Is that typical, or a sign of low t? Even in my life with wife its hard to get turned out, but maybe low level depression?

What about ashwaganda or ginger, both of those are supposed to boost T
very similar symptoms with me. still fight urge to look at girls in public but my phyiscal arousal doesn't seem to follow. used to have to fight also the urge to not masturbate but even that has gotten easy because of my low libidio. and my desire with my wife is lower too, even though i am very physically attracted to her. got my levels checked and they are around 500. i'm 27 so while that is within the "normal range" i'm wondering if it is low for my age. also deal with anxiety , which contributes to the problem for sure. fwiw i was on anti depressants for anxiety up until early this year when i decided to quit, and would have occasional periods of low libido but for the most part was fine. sorry if beyond the scope of this thread, but any advice appreciated
 

Sword

Sparrow
Catholic
My sleep is not that good. I eat very healthy, and work out hard (weights and some cardio). Lot of stress trying to change jobs, while a 3 year old at home, and me and wife have a lot of dysfunction we are trying to work through. On top of that, my sleep is typically about 6 hrs a night.
 

get2choppaaa

Hummingbird
Orthodox
My sleep is not that good. I eat very healthy, and work out hard (weights and some cardio). Lot of stress trying to change jobs, while a 3 year old at home, and me and wife have a lot of dysfunction we are trying to work through. On top of that, my sleep is typically about 6 hrs a night.

My advice would be to do the following for 2 months and see what happens:

-Fix your sleep (11 to 7am if able)
-Red meat at least 1x a day
-4 or 5 whole eggs every morning
(name "steroids" comes from choleSTEROL")
-weight training 3 or 4 x a week
-lose bodyfat if youre above 12-15 percent and avoid booze whenever possible (1 or 2 nights a week max and no more that 3 or 4 drinks max)
-vitamin D3 5000 ius daily (should be doing this in the Coof age anyway)


Alex Jones super male vitality.

This will be you in about 8 weeks:



Just kidding on that one. But maybe...
 

CharlieKennedy

Chicken
Protestant
Avoiding toxins is just as important as getting the right nutrients, if not more so. This video is worth watching, but basically:

Don’t use any plastics
Don’t drink milk unless it comes from a hand milked cow
Don’t wear synthetic fabrics
Don’t use any perfumes or soaps with parabens
Don’t use sunscreen

And don’t worry too much; Fortunately, the body clears out these chems in about a week.

 
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infowarrior1

Peacock
Protestant
Also avoid drinking normal beer as Hops used in Beer is very Estrogenic:

Alcohol also inhibits testosterone:
 

Dr Mantis Toboggan

Pelican
Catholic
Gold Member
Yes, this is likely a testosterone related issue... But there could be a host of things going on here.

What is your sleep like? Nutrition on point? Regular exercise? Extreme life stess?

The general depression and weight gain coupled with low libido are usually signs of lower Testosterone.

DIM ans Ashwaganada are helpful... But supplements only facilitate if you're doing the other things well also.

You could have Test in the high 900s or eve 1000 but if you're not mentally right you will have issues.

Not advising anything, but I would examine those other factors first and get them on point before getting blood work, remember bloodwork is only a snapshot in time. So if you're living hard for a couple months then get bloodwork vs fix the other things you'll have significantly different results via labs.


Stuff from True nutrition (truenutrition.com) is good to go and mixes well. I'd mix with a scoop of protein (whey isolate or casein depending on when you are using it) the company is very good and a serious, no bs company that saves you some food money.

I like their ZMA and sleep aid for occasional use when ive been stressed and not sleeping really well.

Thanks, will check it out. Been mixing it with whey (either mint chocolate or vanilla) and almond milk and the taste isn't great, smell when I open the bag is almost vomit inducing...plus not sure if it's related but I've had stomach issues the last few days, actually wonder if I got a bad batch or something.
 

get2choppaaa

Hummingbird
Orthodox
Thanks, will check it out. Been mixing it with whey (either mint chocolate or vanilla) and almond milk and the taste isn't great, smell when I open the bag is almost vomit inducing...plus not sure if it's related but I've had stomach issues the last few days, actually wonder if I got a bad batch or something.

I like the stronger flavors (True Nutrition lets you cusomize blend/flavor/amount sweatener ect) with it.

Possibly you're putting too much in there? 500 mg in a single serving is about enough... so maybe 1 scoup pro + 500 mg maca or if you did big shakes 2 scoups and 1000 mg.
 

LoveBug

Kingfisher
Catholic
Update: I felt a pretty strong effect from pine pollen. Really good. High energy in the gym, more masculine feeling. Since it's the only change––and I was even supposed to rest today–– I would say it is probably the pine pollen that did it.

Ive heard you speak on Nad+ boosters, would you consider taking NMN/NR? How would you compare boosting NAD to tesosterone?

I'm taking NMN currently. Since I'm primarily focused on life extension, there is the questionable influence of male sex hormones on longevity, so I'm not into testosterone personally. But NMN is risky now without a lot of long term data, and has some cancer concern as well
 
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get2choppaaa

Hummingbird
Orthodox
Ive heard you speak on Nad+ boosters, would you consider taking NMN/NR? How would you compare boosting NAD to tesosterone?

I'm taking NMN currently. Since I'm primarily focused on life extension, there is the questionable influence of male sex hormones on longevity, so I'm not into testosterone personally. But NMN is risky now without a lot of long term data, and has some cancer concern as well
There is correlation with lower testosterone and poor heart health.

Too much androgens are bad for heart health, too few are bad also.

Estrogen is the same way... Higher estrogen up to a point is heart healthy, but too high and you're going to have issues.
 

LoveBug

Kingfisher
Catholic
There is correlation with lower testosterone and poor heart health.

Too much androgens are bad for heart health, too few are bad also.

Estrogen is the same way... Higher estrogen up to a point is heart healthy, but too high and you're going to have issues.

But castrated live longer yes? I'd wonder if its the low t, or the lifestyle that can create low t, that would be the issue for heart disease, but you may be right.
 

Don Quixote

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
Ive heard you speak on Nad+ boosters, would you consider taking NMN/NR? How would you compare boosting NAD to tesosterone?

I'm taking NMN currently. Since I'm primarily focused on life extension, there is the questionable influence of male sex hormones on longevity, so I'm not into testosterone personally. But NMN is risky now without a lot of long term data, and has some cancer concern as well
I am not sure about cancer, I think the idea for why it can be risky is because you are bypassing the rate limiting step in the cycle.
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I wouldn't use it because I don't see it as beneficial either, given there are better ways of boosting NAD+ pool. To me, supplementing NMN directly is just a very very costly way of taking a combination of low-dose niacin and low-dose niacinamide throughout the day. Niacinamide goes to NMN directly, but it is rate limited so if you take too much it will stop conversion. Niacin can cycle back into NMN and thus NAD+ from another direction, hence why I think supplementing with both is probably superior to supplementing with one. However, niacin you must be careful with. The no-flush variety can be toxic to the liver in high doses above 300mg. Niacinamide is likely a safer option, as the body will use it as much as needed.

I think for boosting ATP, the best protocol is a b-complex, specifically using B3 (niacin+niacinamide combo), reservatrol, creatine, coq10, and magnesium.
 

Don Quixote

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
But castrated live longer yes? I'd wonder if its the low t, or the lifestyle that can create low t, that would be the issue for heart disease, but you may be right.
I wonder this as well...is it testosterone or testosterone metabolites, like DHT, that are toxic? Are they toxic directly, or is it due to a bad liver unable to metabolize these toxic metabolites? It's hard to say that testosterone is per se toxic given that young males have a super high testosterone and DHT level yet obviously are in greater health. Maybe there is something we are missing there.

The Chinese system is all about yin/yang balance. If you are "too yang" you will be too androgenic. The Chinese try to use cooling herbs to reduce it, such as reishi or astragalus. If you are too yin they will do the opposite, supplying you with cordyceps, cistanche pine pollen, cinnamon, etc.
 

Don Quixote

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
Could it be low T if I have a hard time getting turned on? Me and my wife are under a lot of stress, our sex life sucks right now, and I got a bunch of stuff I am dealing with myself. What I am asking, is I will see a hot girl and think she is hot, but there is NOT any sort of turning on that happens. Is that typical, or a sign of low t? Even in my life with wife its hard to get turned out, but maybe low level depression?

What about ashwaganda or ginger, both of those are supposed to boost T
High cortisol and high prolactin will be the reason psychologically for not having libido I think. Obviously, prolactin and cortisol destroy testosterone levels, and also dopamine levels. So low dopamine is probably what leads to low psychological libido. If you can still get erection, then that means DHT is likely working since you have nitric oxide working. But obviously, even if your nitric oxide works, you might just have zero dopamine. Even if physically you're all good, neurologically speaking you might be screwed. Also might be all your dopamine is going into adrenaline instead of staying in dopamine form.

Ashwagandha reduces cortisol so thus indirectly may help T. Not sure about ginger root, I never had androgenic effects from it, but its useful in limiting serotonin and helps me with headaches.
 

Sword

Sparrow
Catholic
High cortisol and high prolactin will be the reason psychologically for not having libido I think. Obviously, prolactin and cortisol destroy testosterone levels, and also dopamine levels. So low dopamine is probably what leads to low psychological libido. If you can still get erection, then that means DHT is likely working since you have nitric oxide working. But obviously, even if your nitric oxide works, you might just have zero dopamine. Even if physically you're all good, neurologically speaking you might be screwed. Also might be all your dopamine is going into adrenaline instead of staying in dopamine form.

Ashwagandha reduces cortisol so thus indirectly may help T. Not sure about ginger root, I never had androgenic effects from it, but its useful in limiting serotonin and helps me with headaches.
Well, as mentioned, getting erections are pretty rare, certianly beyond just the morning I do not get spontanous ones at all. I bet something might be stress related as our life is a mess right now and only getting slowly better.

Physically, I am gaining muscle at what seems like an ok speed, but chronically tired. Along with the low sex drive and low ability to stay hard or get off what might this be? Clean of porn btw.
 

Tedd

Pigeon
Agnostic
Nothing herbal, but has anybody experimented with organ meat? Started regularly eating liver, bone marrow and others, all raw. Really want to try testicles for boosting testosterone but couldn't find any yet. Unfortunately organs are very difficult to get, even though I am living in a large, european city.
 
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