High School Teacher with half-naked Twitter pictures put on leave

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gamepadawan

 
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MorphineBliss said:
Kitsune said:
Well I'd definitely date a weed smoking, classlessly-tattoo'ed, nude self-shot posting woman - in fact, I'd consider marriage to such a specimen. Lord knows there aren't women better than that out there!

So, I would definitely want such a woman raising my kids whilst I work; especially one like this who has such a firm grasp of hard work, tact, regard for consequences of her actions and a chaste manner! Who better to instill traditional moral values in my sons and daughters?

I wasn't aware this article put up for your personal dating consideration. Must have missed that. Darn.

You raise your own kids, it's your own responsibility. Expecting teachers to do so is a course of action destined for failure. If you want to have a say in who the teachers are that teach your children, you'll have to go down the route that is private education and pay through your teeth.

gamepadawan said:
Do you understand professionalism? Her life is not private when she willingly posts things to a public site like twitter, use some common sense here.

I do indeed understand professionalism. What I'm saying is there's a distinction between what you do on the job and off the job. Off the job, her, myself and also you should be allowed to do the hell you please. Not everything that gets posted on public accessible websites is actually intended for the publics eye. This is an ever recurring trap that many fall into.

None of the pictures look like they were taking in a school. If a teacher wants to twitter or read a book during recreation that's their own business. Again, maybe she's trashy and silly but I don't see why she should lose her job, unless she did take drugs on school grounds, elicit drug use in minors or something otherwise untoward.

And who here isn't guilty of surfing recretational websites at work? Come on.
Sure you can do whatever you want, but if an employer feels like you're bad for business or bad for school than they can fire your ass. If this chick was alluding to hardcore illegal drugs would you feel the same way?
 

Jaydublin

Pelican
MorphineBliss said:
I don't see the problem here aside from the blatant hypocrisy of the american society, and that's an old one.

So what, she's having fun. The twitter page is her private life. While I don't see why people plaster their private life all over twitter or facebook, it's supposed to still be a free country. You know what this is, sad people at home at their computers checking out other people's good time and being jealous.

She can still be a fantastic teacher in the classroom, regardless of what she does outside of it.

If she's actually doing drugs on the school grounds that's a different matter. But come on, where does this bullshit stop. People are not their jobs. Everyone does stupid mindless stuff at the weekend.

Free country or not your employer has the right to fire you over such actions.
 

Grit

Kingfisher
If you defend her you simply have no class. Ask yourself why would you white knight for this chick, and the only answer is that you would sacrifice ethical behavior to defend a woman, masquerading under the guise of 'personal freedom.'

But I get a sneaking suspicion you are beta. Why? Because having class is having fun and not getting caught. And i bet that annoys you. Those damn double standards.
 

Timoteo

Crow
As some of you touched on, her private life is no longer private if she posts revealing photos of herself engaging in certain activities (drug use) that aren't even legal. It isn't hypocricy to state that certain professions have standards above and beyond others. There are many professions that test for drugs. Do some of you believe THAT is an invasion of your privacy? Do you want the individual that operates the vehicle you're riding in to be free to get drunk/high on his personal time, and come to work that way? As a teacher, she's responsible for the wellbeing and care of minors, not just teaching them a particular subject. Yes, sometimes a moral standard must be met also. She was informed of a particular social media policy that had to be adhered to if she wanted that particular job. She agreed, and accepted the position. I don't feel bad for her. If she wants to engage in certain behavior and then publicly expose it, she can't do this particular job. She was a prime candidate to end up fucking one of her students. If she didn't get nailed for his, she'd have probably ended up in a worse situation (arrested).
 

MorphineBliss

 
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Grit said:
If you defend her you simply have no class. Ask yourself why would you white knight for this chick, and the only answer is that you would sacrifice ethical behavior to defend a woman, masquerading under the guise of 'personal freedom.'

But I get a sneaking suspicion you are beta. Why? Because having class is having fun and not getting caught. And i bet that annoys you. Those damn double standards.

What?

Come again please. Specially the second paragraph. You're the one going all moral on me.



Sure, some professions should have standards indeed, but I don't feel teachers are paid or qualified enough for such standards to be set. She's teaching high school students, she's not responsible for their safety or wellbeing, they themselves are, they're old enough. If anything, it's on the parents. If this was a primary or middle school teacher, maybe I'd find the whole thing more questionable.

What's so bizarre is peoples moral outcry over a teachers recreational activities (that might have spilled over into the school) but the kids having to go through metal detectors to get into the same school is tippytop alright isn't it?

I don't feel bad for her either. Regardless if this is about a man or a woman, I'm irked by the constant invasion of privacy by sleazy media making a cheap buck. And most of you are just sucking it up like the good boys that you are.
 

Timoteo

Crow
MorphineBliss said:
Grit said:
If you defend her you simply have no class. Ask yourself why would you white knight for this chick, and the only answer is that you would sacrifice ethical behavior to defend a woman, masquerading under the guise of 'personal freedom.'

But I get a sneaking suspicion you are beta. Why? Because having class is having fun and not getting caught. And i bet that annoys you. Those damn double standards.

What?

Come again please. Specially the second paragraph. You're the one going all moral on me.



Sure, some professions should have standards indeed, but I don't feel teachers are paid or qualified enough for such standards to be set. She's teaching high school students, she's not responsible for their safety or wellbeing, they themselves are, they're old enough. If anything, it's on the parents. If this was a primary or middle school teacher, maybe I'd find the whole thing more questionable.

What's so bizarre is peoples moral outcry over a teachers recreational activities (that might have spilled over into the school) but the kids having to go through metal detectors to get into the same school is tippytop alright isn't it?

I don't feel bad for her either. Regardless if this is about a man or a woman, I'm irked by the constant invasion of privacy by sleazy media making a cheap buck. And most of you are just sucking it up like the good boys that you are.

The age of the students isn't the point. For the hours they are in the school building, the adults (teachers, administrators, etc.) ARE responsible for their wellbeing. I understand your point, but you're trying to make the case that teachers have no responsiblity to anyone but themselves. And again, her privacy wasn't invaded - she published it. If she, as an adult, doesn't understand that (and I repeat, she was informed of social media policy), she shouldn't be teaching kids. Yes, the media is always looking for something sleazy - I don't think anyone can question that. At the same time, she fed them all they needed - they didn't have to dig or invade for it.
 

Days of Broken Arrows

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Gold Member
"Regardless if this is about a man or a woman, I'm irked by the constant invasion of privacy by sleazy media making a cheap buck."

The media didn't invade. She made those pictures public via Twitter. That's my main point.

The question is: why did she make these public in this day and age when we all know what can happen? Because on some level she wanted the publicity, knowing it would up her SMV and that her looks, in the long run, would earn her more than her teacher's salary.

Her best asset at her age is her looks, so in becoming infamous, she is now able to cash in better: she'll have her pick of more top-tier men and probably be swamped with modeling offers. So this is a road for her to up her SMV, even though on the surface it seems like career suicide.

The media's "invasion" was really them answering an invitation.
 

Duke Castile

Crow
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Gotta side with morphinebliss on this one. She should be free to do as she wishes outside of her work.

I guess they could nail her on the technicality of posting during class, but I agree with the spirit of the argument around personal freedoms.

Is she a dumb whore? Yes

Not the issue.

Would I bang? Yes

Not the issue

Should she be fired for what she posts on her twitter? Fuck no

And FYI gentlemen, it's legal to smoke in Colorado

Should she be fired for job performance?

If she sucks at her job of course.

It's blue pill to say "she's not a good example".

Few teachers are regardless of their twitter accounts.

Also, I love it when maledefined goes off haha.
 

porscheguy

Ostrich
It's not an invasion of privacy when you broadcast your actions on the internet. Her behavior is indicative of poor judgment. Seriously. Boasting that you've got weed in your car while the cops are busting students for having weed in the other parking lot? In the US we have a BS thing called "Drug Free School Zones." What this means is that the penalties are much higher for being busted for drugs while in one of these zones. Not very bright.
 

Timoteo

Crow
Even if drugs/smoking is legal in Colorado, does that mean and employer should allow employees to work while impaired? This is a question posed to the group - not an attack on any individual poster.
 

MorphineBliss

 
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More likely than not we all post shit on the internet that we realise might be on public websites (such as this one) but wouldn't feel too comfortable with everyone knowing exactly what we did or said, in particular not our (potential) employers, next door neighbours or our parents most stuck up friends. I wouldn't enjoy what I post on message boards to be reprinted in the local section of my choice tabloid. Even if I made it public by posting it here.

It's a dick move as an employer to search social websites for a potential candidates past without their consent. Legal or not, it's poor form. Private life is just that.

I consider people who google me unasked are invading my privacy and I tell them as much. You want my information you can ask me.

I'm not gonna go on a rant here about the media. But everyone knows why the media loves twitter, does their job for them. All they have to do is to sit at home and wait for the tweets to come in. That's why they push it so hard. Facebook or myspace never got pushed so hard by media outlets like twitter does.
 

gamepadawan

 
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MorphineBliss said:
More likely than not we all post shit on the internet that we realise might be on public websites (such as this one) but wouldn't feel too comfortable with everyone knowing exactly what we did or said, in particular not our (potential) employers, next door neighbours or our parents most stuck up friends. I wouldn't enjoy what I post on message boards to be reprinted in the local section of my choice tabloid. Even if I made it public by posting it here.

It's a dick move as an employer to search social websites for a potential candidates past without their consent. Legal or not, it's poor form. Private life is just that.

I consider people who google me unasked are invading my privacy and I tell them as much. You want my information you can ask me.

I'm not gonna go on a rant here about the media. But everyone knows why the media loves twitter, does their job for them. All they have to do is to sit at home and wait for the tweets to come in. That's why they push it so hard. Facebook or myspace never got pushed so hard by media outlets like twitter does.

Do you have a job? I could care less that she does all of these things, but keep it quiet. If you're going to broadcast all of the dumb shit you do, don't go to twitter, don't make it public. Seriously you're making an effort to get fired, it's not like they caught her being sneaky she posted it for the world to see. And she obviously broke a bunch of school policies regardless, you cannot bring drugs on school grounds as a teacher, just leave that shit at home. The second she steps foot on school grounds private life is gone.
 

MorphineBliss

 
Banned
gamepadawan said:
Do you have a job? I could care less that she does all of these things, but keep it quiet. If you're going to broadcast all of the dumb shit you do, don't go to twitter, don't make it public. Seriously you're making an effort to get fired, it's not like they caught her being sneaky she posted it for the world to see. And she obviously broke a bunch of school policies regardless, you cannot bring drugs on school grounds as a teacher, just leave that shit at home. The second she steps foot on school grounds private life is gone.

Yeah I have a job. Do you have a job? (relevance?). I'm a physician. As such I don't feel everytime I step into a hospital or the OR I need to leave all my private life or personality at the door or I can't otherwise manage my patients to the best of my ability.

My point is the dumb shit I put on twitter is for my friends and family, I don't want it in some newspaper and I don't want some bible freaks on the net passing judgment.

The argument you're making goes along the lines of "it can be done so it has to be morally justifiable". Well it's not.
 

CJ_W

Pelican
JoyStick said:
ha.. my type of girl! now i wonder if any of the teachers i had growing up were stoners.

A few of my college professors were pot smokers. They tried to hide it whenever a student came into their office...

The ones that did definately did NOT look like they would be doing it either.

Hilarious.
 

Samseau

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member
Bottom line is she made the school look bad by acting like a huge slut on the internet. If I was the principal of that school I wouldn't want it to be known that I employed retarded skanks like her, I'd can her ass too.

If you own a business, you need to protect your rep.
 
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