High School Teacher with half-naked Twitter pictures put on leave

[Timoteo]

Do you have a job? I could care less that she does all of these things, but keep it quiet. If you're going to broadcast all of the dumb shit you do, don't go to twitter, don't make it public. Seriously you're making an effort to get fired, it's not like they caught her being sneaky she posted it for the world to see. And she obviously broke a bunch of school policies regardless, you cannot bring drugs on school grounds as a teacher, just leave that shit at home. The second she steps foot on school grounds private life is gone.

Yeah I have a job. Do you have a job? (relevance?). I'm a physician. As such I don't feel everytime I step into a hospital or the OR I need to leave all my private life or personality at the door or I can't otherwise manage my patients to the best of my ability.

My point is the dumb shit I put on twitter is for my friends and family, I don't want it in some newspaper and I don't want some bible freaks on the net passing judgment.

The argument you're making goes along the lines of "it can be done so it has to be morally justifiable". Well it's not.

You also must realize that when you're out and about in public, there is no expectation of privacy. Media can photograph you and publish said photos without your permission, regardless of what you're doing in those pics. To a certain extent, the internet, whether we like it or not, is similar. If it's out there, it's fair game. At work, there's also no expectation of privacy - whatever you say or do on the premises can be judged in some way. I'm not necessarily comfortable with that, but since I'm aware, I have to conduct myself accordingly. I question whether or not morality plays into this.

 

[bojangles]

she deserves to be fired, would bang though

 

[NYJ]

This is the big problem with social media. It's virtual, but at the same time an extension of your actual life. Once you post anything about yourself on a public forum especially when you made it available yourself, I think you lost your right to privacy. Don't want anyone to know about the skeletons in your closet? Then keep that door closed shut.

Reason why I'm not on any type of social network. I don't need people who either don't know me or know me very well to know what I'm doing at all times. I also don't care about what they're doing either. With that said, she definitely isn't the only teacher who does crap like that. I've met plenty a teacher or know some teachers who go out all the time and party hard. The line in between what's private and what's public has been practically erased by some people.

 

[Ovid]

It's one thing to be a slut, use what were at the time illegal drugs, and take nude photographs in the privacy of your own home. It's quite another to showcase them on the Internet, especially when your job involves spending your day in the company of other people's children. Teaching involves, by virtue of the time spent, behavior examples and a certain degree of character formation. This sort of thing gets you canned automatically, with good reason.

 

[FretDancer]

Bottom line is she made the school look bad by acting like a huge slut on the internet. If I was the principal of that school I wouldn't want it to be known that I employed retarded skanks like her, I'd can her ass too.

If you own a business, you need to protect your rep.

Leaving all this "moral" debate aside, this pretty much sums it up.

 

[Screwston]

LOL at her puffing on a blunt in the car.

 

[UnW]

Would be a good pump and dump. Gee, where were these teachers when I was in school!?

 

[Goldin Boy]

Sure, some professions should have standards indeed, but I don't feel teachers are paid or qualified enough for such standards to be set. She's teaching high school students, she's not responsible for their safety or wellbeing, they themselves are, they're old enough. If anything, it's on the parents. If this was a primary or middle school teacher, maybe I'd find the whole thing more questionable.

Actually yes she is responsible for them regardless of their age. The legal term is called in loco parentis or "in place of parents" and its understood (by everyone but you apparently) that teacher are held to a higher standard than other public workers due to the nature of their work. You learn a few things about the unattractive legal aspects of teaching in high school once you get certified as I am in my state( Grades 7-12).

This is no different than Denise Helms who said on the news she wouldn't care if Barack Obama got assassinated. She got fired from her job days later. Doing dumb shit in a public forum can make the employer look bad by association. In summary, the crux of your argument is 100% wrong. (Private shit + camera) x Twitter= Shit's no longer private as anyone can see it lol.

If you don't understand that I think you're just :troll:'ing.

 

[kazz]

Anyone able to read what the tat above her pussy says?

 

[TheSlayer]

To all the members defending her: even if you wanna argue that she has the right to go do whatever she wants in her public life (which she does), you can't deny that she will never ever have the respect of her students anymore. It is tough to control students in today's soft environment as it is. Once her students know that she is the twitter skank they will never respect her and she will not be an effective teacher. Also, agree with the posters saying that you can do whatever you want in your private life, but putting it on a public forum like twitter is pretty idiotic.

 

[MorphineBliss]

You're tripping man. Her students love her. I'm sure her students all subscribed to her twitter feed long time ago.

Go try dating a good looking teacher. Her students will start harrassing you on facebook. Boys fawn over them, girls want to be like her. Come on, the students think she's cool. Young impressionable adults. It's the parents who are probably not too pleased. Respect in a teacher-student relationship is overrated. Admiration is the key element.

All this shit about teachers being held to higher standards. What a load of tosh. Teaching is a shit gig, the money is poor, the kids are a nightmare. Upside is the amount of vacation. You living in the real world yet? Quoting princiles of law? This is precisely why kids are messed up, parents think up-bringing is up to the teachers. A teacher talks to the individual child less than 60 seconds a day. You're telling me, as a teacher of say math, you feel directly responsible for a childs upbringing and who they turn out to be?

This thread perfectly illustrates all of todays contradictions in American society: 1. Ooh our kids and schools are holy precious little heavens sent gifts. But why the fuck why do they go around shooting each other? 2. Let me do whatever I want, free country and all, american dream blabla <-> gotta act like a puralist church goer infront of my employers though, image is everything and I best have a phoney one. 3. The immense schadenfreude at the person who is falling from grace, kicking someone when they're down (as seen most recently with the CIA director).

Look boys, if you expect a 23 year old to act responsibly, "take care of your children while you work", raise them, not upload silly pictures to the internet or party then... heck, you shouldn't have let her be raised by a 23 year old herself. The problem isn't the actual outcome, but the outlandish expectations that have been set. As such you're just constantly being disappointed, as a people, even as an entire nation.

 

[Hotwheels]

If women lived by the old school rules, this would never happen.


I'd much rather have a 50+ woman teaching my nonexistant kids than one fresh out of school.

There is a reason I have no kids. This is just one of them.

 

[kosko]

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[worldwidetraveler]

Look boys, if you expect a 23 year old to act responsibly, "take care of your children while you work", raise them, not upload silly pictures to the internet or party then... heck, you shouldn't have let her be raised by a 23 year old herself.

In ten years time we will hear.

"Look boys, if you expect a 30 year old to act responsibly...."

Why should she get a free pass because of her age? I really believe our young adults are getting more and more stupid. Posting stuff she did proves it.

What is the age of responsibility in the UK? Apparently teachers in the UK are not responsible for impressionable children.

 

[Hades]

I don't see how her behavior outside of class means automatically that she's an ineffective teacher. She could be a great teacher for all we know. Still I support the school in seeing it fit to fire her.

 

[worldwidetraveler]

I don't see how her behavior outside of class means automatically that she's an ineffective teacher. She could be a great teacher for all we know. Still I support the school in seeing it fit to fire her.

It isn't necessarily about her work. Teachers are in a position of power. They do have influence, both in what they say, and what they do.

I don't understand what some guys are talking about when it comes to teachers raising kids. No one said it.

She got fired for being an attention whore. I hope it happens to more people.

 

[Vicious]

You're tripping man. Her students love her. I'm sure her students all subscribed to her twitter feed long time ago.

Go try dating a good looking teacher. Her students will start harrassing you on facebook. Boys fawn over them, girls want to be like her. Come on, the students think she's cool. Young impressionable adults. It's the parents who are probably not too pleased. Respect in a teacher-student relationship is overrated. Admiration is the key element.

All this shit about teachers being held to higher standards. What a load of tosh. Teaching is a shit gig, the money is poor, the kids are a nightmare. Upside is the amount of vacation. You living in the real world yet? Quoting princiles of law? This is precisely why kids are messed up, parents think up-bringing is up to the teachers. A teacher talks to the individual child less than 60 seconds a day. You're telling me, as a teacher of say math, you feel directly responsible for a childs upbringing and who they turn out to be?

This thread perfectly illustrates all of todays contradictions in American society: 1. Ooh our kids and schools are holy precious little heavens sent gifts. But why the fuck why do they go around shooting each other? 2. Let me do whatever I want, free country and all, american dream blabla <-> gotta act like a puralist church goer infront of my employers though, image is everything and I best have a phoney one. 3. The immense schadenfreude at the person who is falling from grace, kicking someone when they're down (as seen most recently with the CIA director).

Look boys, if you expect a 23 year old to act responsibly, "take care of your children while you work", raise them, not upload silly pictures to the internet or party then... heck, you shouldn't have let her be raised by a 23 year old herself. The problem isn't the actual outcome, but the outlandish expectations that have been set. As such you're just constantly being disappointed, as a people, even as an entire nation.

Quoted for truth.

I'm actually surprised at how a lot of people on the board backslide into basic conservatism with this kind of thing. Especially since a vast majority here don't want kids of their own, but they sure are experts on how they should be raised.

 

[worldwidetraveler]

Quoted for truth.

I'm actually surprised at how a lot of people on the board backslide into basic conservatism with this kind of thing. Especially since a vast majority here don't want kids of their own, but they sure are experts on how they should be raised.

Who said they were experts on how to raise kids? Please link to the post.

Why can't people have an opinion on this if they don't want kids?

What a strange post.

 

[Aliblahba]

Well, the public schools have attracted the dregs and washouts of society for at least a generation. Her behavior isn't any different from the typical skank. The objectionable part is that she is too stupid to realize high school kids are going to get access to these pics.

Just think what damage they do when teaching abroad.

 

[Captain Ahab]

Stuff like this makes me take my role as a substitute teacher seriously.

As of 2013, I don't share any photos, post any status updates, or do anything personal about my life on Twitter. I keep almost everything professional. I deleted all my photos, maximized my privacy options, and generally keep a tight lid on my social networking.

I do feel trapped though. One of my main goals in life is to become a successful novelist/journalist, which requires me have a blog and post content- content that will get views. I know for a fact that my voice is politically incorrect in certain instances, and it will be difficult to take the edge off of a lot of the material I write. It is not too hardcore but I am much more old school Eddie Murphy than Bill Cosby. Hell, I may be doing stand up and I know once I am on the microphone all bets are off. My big fear is that someone googles my name, finds my website, sees I wrote an article, where I am shaming fat women, and now I'm out of a job.

I feel trapped. On the one hand I want to express myself and start my own blog/ebook business, which requires me to post content, some of which is meant for mature audiences. Posting this content may run the risk of me losing my sub job, which means I'm back on the call center/food service/customer service grind. Back to the hell hole.

I think creatively I can make my content professional and still edgy, maybe not use curse words, focus on the substance of the article and slim down the style....but as someone who is DYING to express himself this is going to really suck.

I am not saying I am looking to post porn, but if I am doing an album review for say, Kendrick Lamar's new album, and I post an excerpt that says " Gone are the days when West Coast rap was filled with bitches, blunts, and crip soaked violence in favor of deep reflection on what it means to be a young black man growing up in Southern California.." does that get mean I get axed?

I think it is tough being a teacher if you are an artist for this very reason.

I just don’t see my ebook/journalism/novelist career taking off if I have to edit my voice to the degree that whatever I produce is void of the emotional effect I can evoke from my audience in favor of job security. I mean a lot of the characters I create when I write curse, talk about fucking, drink, do drugs, that is real. If a five year old comes across a short story on my website about a man who is obsessed with anal sex and cocaine, and in one excerpt is participating in the acts, well, what am I to do if the county no longer wishes to employ me for my "Parental Advisory: Explicit Lyrics" content.

Maybe I should write under a pen name?

Any suggestions?