His Holiness Patriarch Kirill and Moscow Patriarchate - Russian Orthodox Church

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His Holiness Patriarch Kirill met with priests who carry out missionary activities on the Internet
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His Holiness Patriarch Kirill addressed the audience with an opening speech:

“I am very glad to see all of you, brothers, and I need to hear your voices, because you are working in an area in which I, by virtue of my ministry, cannot be fully involved. After all, presence in social networks, in a virtual discussion requires a very deep immersion, if we are talking about serious professional participation.

A priest otherwise and can not participate in this activity. If he sets out on the Internet only his dreams, fantasies, conjectures, then it is better not to go there at all. We read the following words from the apostle: I was everything to all, in order to save at least some (see 1 Cor. 9:22). Just imagine if this phrase is divided in half: for everyone, I was everything - period. Nightmare! But then: to save at least some - and everything falls into place.

I think that everyone who today works on the Internet and speaks, if not on behalf of the Church, then at least acts as a priest, should remember these words: For all, I was everything to save at least some . This means that the soteriological dimension of your presence on the Internet is absolutely necessary.

For a priest, the Internet is not a place where he demonstrates his intellectual abilities, not a place where he makes an impression, not a place where he collects "likes", but an environment where he brings the Good News to people
- perhaps in specific words, in specific categories of thought, with the involvement of specific argumentation.

But if you detach your presence in the networks from the soteriological dimension, then you are a ringing brass and a rattling cymbal (see 1 Cor. 13:1), and it is better for you to leave from there.

Therefore, I want to say again: the only way we can justify ourselves before the Lord, before our neighbors and before our conscience is if we perceive the presence on the Internet as our pastoral service. Here is my main thesis, and therefore the conclusion is very simple: if I accept that this is my "pulpit", with which I address people - with a certain phraseology, with a certain goal-setting, but precisely as a priest, in order to contribute to their salvation, - then it's all justified.

Once again I want to say: I have great respect for your work. Unfortunately, I can't follow your posts as I should, but my colleagues, who are more knowledgeable in this area, help me keep track of a lot, especially if something interesting happens.

I have already had the opportunity to say that along with successful examples of work on the Internet, we also have experience of extremely inept presence. Sometimes the image of a clergyman, declared in the Internet space, turns out to be too far from the ideal that has developed in the cultural tradition of our people. Such a discrepancy first of all destroys the personality of the priest himself, and, unfortunately, such examples are well known to all of us.

I would also like to remind you that the principles of the participation of the Church in the political life of society, formulated in the Fundamentals of the Social Concept, remain relevant. Moreover, today we must especially observe these principles and not enter into the discussion of political issues, except when it becomes necessary to raise our voice in defense of spiritual and moral values. We enter into a dialogue with the public not to give political assessments or to position ourselves as political analysts, but only to bring a Christian dimension to this discussion.

Finally, it is very important that a pastor working in the information space should not forget about his main goal - to help a person find Christ as a Savior.
I have already said that Internet activity should in no case obscure the concern for real parishioners and replace the work of pastoral care; all the more dangerous if the presence on the Internet makes the priest addicted.

The pastor must first of all remember that his calling is not the Internet, but the salvation of human souls.”
 

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His Holiness took an active and a direct part in producing the document entitled The Foundations of the Social Concept of the Russian Orthodox, which was adopted at the Jubilee Episcopal Council in 2000.

INTRODUCTION
Adopted at the Sacred Bishops’ Council of the Russian Orthodox Church, this document sets forth the basic provisions of her teaching on church-state relations and a number of problems socially significant today. It also reflects the official position of Moscow Patriarchate on relations with state and secular society. In addition, it gives a number of guidelines to be applied in this field by the episcopate, clergy and laity. The nature of the document is determined by the needs experienced by the whole of the Russian Orthodox Church during a long historical period both within and beyond the canonical territory of Moscow Patriarchate. Therefore, its deals primarily with fundamental theological and ecclesio-social issues, as well as those aspects of the life of state and society which were and are equally relevant for the whole Church in the end of the 20th century and in the nearest future. PDF link

Online active table of content links at:


interview excerpt in Forbes France discussing the "price which we pay for agreeing to elevate the Golden Calf on the pedestal of social and personal life" :

The Church appeals to people, whether they are businessmen, bankers, workers or peasants, by using not a politico-economic platform, but with recourse to the Gospels. There is only one sure way of overcoming the contemporary social and economic dead end, and that is to be guided by the word of God, where one has a choice and where one is obliged to vindicate it. Yet this is countered by powerful forces which are prepared to use any means whatsoever in order to prevent the dominance of divine ideas in the minds of our contemporaries, for people who are enlightened by God become free and independent, and not the unfree fulfillers of their passions imposed by the modern-day consumerist ‘culture’. Interview link
 

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Patriarch of Moscow: Do not have abortions, let the children be raised by the Church​





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If I remember correctly during the coof hoax he urged the flock to get the vax. I suspect he is in the same boat as Bartholomew. Use discernment.
 
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Would you be so kind to provide your source / quote for His Holiness Patriarch Kirill "urging the flock to get the vax" ?
Would be very interested in reading an accurate source that supports this accusation.
My research skills may be lacking to locate this statement:

If I remember correctly during the coof hoax he urged the flock to get the vax. I suspect he is in the same boat as Bartholomew. Use discernment.

He was vaccinated with the Russian vaccine due to doctor's recommendation, and still ended up catching COVID.
Here is a bit from the Round Table Final Document on the Ethical Aspects of Vaccination in the Light of Orthodox Teaching:

The Russian Orthodox Church has consistently adhered to the principles of the protection of defending the individual’s right to choose to use or not to use new and rapidly developing technologies, including in the field of medicine. In particular, the Bases of the Social Concept of the Russian Orthodox Church emphasizes that “the doctor-patient relationships should be built on respect for the integrity, free choice and dignity of the personality. It is inadmissible to manipulate him even for the best purposes” (XI.3). In following the aforementioned principle and at the same time recognizing the importance of supporting initiatives for defeating the pandemic, including the widespread use of vaccines, the round table participants believe it vital to guarantee peoples’ freedom to chose in relation to taking the vaccination against the COVID-19 infection and to exclude all forms of open or secret discrimination of people who refuse this vaccine for whatever reason. It should be noted that cases that have come to light of manipulating people forcibly into taking the vaccine and other actions aimed against the aforementioned freedom of choice evoke a negative reaction and merely serve to bolster rumours and anxiety among those who have taken measures to protect their health.

A stronger argument for discernment would be to ask the question are there HEK 293 cells used in the domestic vaccine he received?
And if so did he know?

The church community is alarmed at the fact that in the creation of certain vaccines, including vaccines against the COVID-19 infection, there have been used stem cells grown from embryonic human cells obtained as a result of abortions, even if they occurred a half century ago or more. As the Bases of the Social Concept notes, the Russian Orthodox Church believes to be wrong “the extraction and use of the tissues and organs of a human foetus aborted at an early stage of development as a means of curing various diseases and illnesses” (XII.7). It should be noted that according to information published by vaccine manufacturers the vaccines do not contains embryonic stem cells and that the aforementioned stem cells have been used for many years for the creation of vaccines.
 

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Would you be so kind to provide your source / quote for His Holiness Patriarch Kirill "urging the flock to get the vax" ?
Would be very interested in reading an accurate source that supports this accusation.
My research skills may be lacking to locate this statement:

On a similar note was doing some daily reading on the Russian Orthodox Church and came across this interesting article by Archpriest Alexander F. C. Webster, PhD


The recent public statement by the Orthodox Theological Society in America (OTSA) released on March 8, 2021, with this unwieldy title—“Covid-19 vaccines: How they are made and how they work to prime the immune system to fight SARS-CoV2”—offers a seeming patina of legitimacy to an ethical argument that is abhorrent to any informed, devout Orthodox Christian. (See https://www.otsamerica.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Covid19-VaccineTech.pdf.) In this essay, I shall retrieve that gauntlet and offer what I hope is a compelling counterargument.

One of the section of this essay stuck out:

First, chapter 12, section 7, of the Bases of the Social Concept of the Russian Orthodox Church (AD 2000), a reliable, for the most part, a compendium of moral analyses of a multitude of issues approved by the Holy Synod of the Patriarchate of Moscow, includes this unequivocal position (boldface in original):

The Church believes it to be definitely inadmissible to use the methods of so-called fetal therapy in which the human fetus on various stages of its development is aborted and used in attempts to treat various diseases and to ‘rejuvenate’ an organism. Denouncing abortion as a cardinal sin, the Church cannot find any justification for it either even if someone may possibly benefit from the destruction of a conceived human life. Contributing inevitably to ever wider spread and commercialization of abortion, this practice (even if its still hypothetical effectiveness could be proved scientifically) presents an example of glaring immorality and is criminal.” [Source: http://orthodoxeurope.org/page/3/14.aspx]
 
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Archdeacon Andrei Kuraev is defrocked for blasphemy and slander against the Church.

To the Prohibited Cleric of the Moscow Diocese, Protodeacon Andrey Vyacheslavovich Kuraev

Due to the fact that for more than two years that have elapsed since the decision of the Diocesan Court of Moscow to dethrone you from the priesthood and the imposition of a moratorium on the issuance of a decree in order to give you time to rethink your position and return to the path of the Church, You did not show signs of repentance either in words or in deeds, and, among other things, did not stop your destructive activity

— the mentioned moratorium is hereby terminated and, in accordance with the decisions of the Diocesan Court of Moscow No. 50-54-2020 of 12/29/2020 and No. 53-57-2021 of 03/04/2021, you are ejected from the priesthood.

+KIRILL, PATRIARCH OF MOSCOW AND ALL Rus' http://moseparh.ru/ukaz-u-0269-ot-28-aprelya-2023.html
 

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Given the circumstances figured this could be placed in this thread:


Thank you @Lukas PL for sharing the link to express gratitude for Father Peter Heers' teachings:
Many faithful have asked the OE Team for a way and a space to submit their support and "tell their story" of how the work of Orthodox Ethos and Fr. Peter has helped them. Here is that way and space. Below you will find the initial outpouring of love and support from over 100 brothers and sisters sent to OE this past week.

 

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Interesting timing. Kept in contact with a priest who just recently left a Roman Catholic Church for an assignment at the Syro-Malankara Catholic Eparchy in Washington D.C. The Syro-Malankara Church observes the Antiochian Rite in the Syriac language.


Here is an April article about the Orthodox Church in conversation with Malankara Church:

His Holiness Patriarch Kirill’s meeting with members of the Working Group for Coordinating Bilateral Relations between the Russian Orthodox Church and the Malankara Church​

DECR Communication Service, 26.04.2023.

On April 25, after the Divine Liturgy celebrated at the Cathedral of the Archangel in Moscow Kremlin, a meeting took place at the Kremlin’s Faceted Chamber between His Holiness Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Russia and members of the Working Group for Coordinating Bilateral Relations between the Russian Orthodox Church and the Malankara Church.

Participating in the meeting from the Malankara Church were Metropolitan Abraham Mar Stephanos, head of the Diocese of Great Britain, Europe and Africa, and Rev. Ashwin Fernandez, executive director of the Malankara Church Department for External Church Relations.

From the Russian Orthodox Church there were Metropolitan Leonid of Klin, Patriarchal Exarch for Africa, co-chairman of the Working Group; and Hieromonk Stephen (Igumnov), DECR secretary for inter-Christian relations, secretary of the Working Group.

Greeting the guests, His Holiness Patriarch Kirill noted that the relations between the Russian Orthodox Church and the Malankara Church have a longstanding history during which ‘there were not a single dark spot, even the slightest one’. ‘This shows that we share very substantial coincidences in our world outlooks and our spiritual practice. We cherish these now already traditional good relations with your Church’, His Holiness stressed.

According His Holiness, at present the bilateral relations between the Russian Orthodox Church and the Malankara Church continue developing actively and fruitfully. In 2019,
the negotiations with His Holiness Catholicos Baselius Marthoma Paulose II of eternal memory resulted in the establishment of a Working Group for Coordinating the Bilateral Relation, which gave a new impetus to the inter-church dialogue.

‘I am very glad that such a group does exist’, Patriarch Kirill stressed.

His Holiness noted that ‘today a special importance should be given to the coordination of joint efforts on international platforms, primarily in the World Council of Churches, for discussing topics of mutual interest and speaking in one voice in defence of our shared stance on the most acute issues. This interaction is relevant and called for since we are very close in our commitment to our spiritual and cultural heritage, our firmness in asserting the Christian understanding of morality and our view of the developments in the world’.

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I don't worry too much about this kind of stuff. After World War III, there will be an eighth ecumenical council that will straighten things out. As long as my priest isn't doing anything like this, I think it's best just to be patient and wait on God to fix it in His time.



The video is talking about the Ukrainian situation, with some jurisdictions recognizing the schismatics, but I think the advice applies just as well to the problems with patriarchs and bishops participating in ecumenism, pushing modernism, etc.
 

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In the meantime tho we should be aware of the patriarchs who stray away from the teaching. Just because Russia takes a stand against some western degeneracies should not cloud our judgement and make it less nuanced. I don't trust patriarch Kirill, there is no place in the Church for ecumenism or covidism.
 

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A beloved icon for many Orthodox Christians' Icon Corner:

MOSCOW, May 15. /TASS/. Andrey Rublev’s Holy Trinity icon has been returned to the Russian Orthodox Church.

"In response to numerous requests from Orthodox believers, Russian President Vladimir Putin has made a decision to return the miraculous Holy Trinity icon painted by Reverend Andrey Rublev to the Russian Orthodox Church," the church said in a press statement posted on its website on Monday.

The icon will be displayed for worship in the Christ the Savior Cathedral in Moscow for a year and after that it will be taken to the Trinity Lavra of St. Sergius.
 

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In the meantime tho we should be aware of the patriarchs who stray away from the teaching. Just because Russia takes a stand against some western degeneracies should not cloud our judgement and make it less nuanced. I don't trust patriarch Kirill, there is no place in the Church for ecumenism or covidism.

Agree there there is no place in the Russian Orthodox Church for ecumenism or covidism . Do you feel the meetings were to promote ecumenism or were to entertain out of courtesy?


As to [pay respect to] Russia, the Russian Orthodox has history in the United States.
Some of the Orthodox Churches in the United States were the result of missions by the Russian monks / Russia. The OCA has its origins from Russian missions.

What is unfortunate is that there are consecrated Orthodox Churches by Russian Bishops that are now OCA and not ROCOR. And as we are seeing some of the OCA are moving away from traditional values towards progressive / all inclusive acceptance of offensive behaviours.

According to historical parish documents there may be more than one Russian Orthodox Churches in America that felt the need (?) to distance the Church/parish from Communism/Bolshevism during the 1917; therefore turning to the OCA due to the MP direction of Russian Orthodox Churches to self govern in the United States? The war by the Bolsheviks may have been able to indirectly influence removing the label Russian from some of the Orthodox Churches at the time in the States, but not the history and traditional Christian values that sustained within these Orthodox Churches.

Who were the Bolsheviks again? And why did they have such hatred for Russia and her Orthodox Churches?

Xристос Воскресе!
 

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traditional Christian values that sustained

Estonian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate and the Estonian Apostolic Orthodox Church of the Patriarchate of Constantinople

Both the Estonian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate and the Estonian Apostolic Orthodox Church of the Patriarchate of Constantinople have issued statements in defense of traditional marriage.

“The Church has always sought to protect society from the substitution of spiritual and moral values. Today, the threat of such substitution is growing—they want to call the ‘sin of Sodom’ a ‘family,’” the statement from the Estonian Orthodox Church, signed by His Eminence Metropolitan Evgeny of Tallinn, begins.

 
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